Israel at war
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This current war started with the Oct. 7 terror attack. By an amazing coincidence, it's called the Oct.7 War.
It's like a similar coincidence where Lou Gehrig caught the disease that had his name.
BTW, it's nice to see you supporting terrorist attacks.
Islamic State.
Your insightful analysis is as accurate always.
Which means you are totally off base, wrong, not even close, incorrect, false, clueless, inaccurate and driven by blind hatred.
You are as accurate as the Hamas rocket that hit it's own hospital.
Are you going to fix your post so it says that "Islam is a threat to world peace"? BTW, have you condemned this act of terror. We know how much you despise acts of terror.
Yeah, I'm sure Hamas will do exactly what you suggest starting right away.
Fatuous nonsense.
And once again you deny the whole existence of Israel and you pretend that Arabs are incapable of being capable of making their own decisions like the true racist you are.
The constantly evaporating "Islam is a religion of peace" story.
There are whole groups of people that they'd love to kill just for taking part in some of the activities that we take for granted here. I don't know how you can support them.
Its not pretty but I don't see how they had any other reasonable options. Please advise of the reasonable solution I somehow missed.
Prove it. Show the documentation of this being official Israeli government policy. Let's see the piece of paper, Mr. one word on a repeat loop.
Maybe change your name to Kla d'uhh. (Shack of sit is still better. I hope you keep using it.)
This kind of documentation will be key to the ICC hearing and will now be part of the historical record.
That's weird. No Christians ever flew a jet into a hi rise office building in Teheran or Dubai.
Hmm, I dunno. Maybe if they hadn't gang-raped the women and killed the little babies?
Remember I posted that map yesterday showing Israel holding about 90% of Gaza City?
Yup. They got that 90% by killing Hamas.
You're about as quaint as Frankie telling us that Israel would give up and let the Palestinians win if enough people demonstrate against Israel in the West. So get your placard and button up that overcoat!
But you couldn't resist.
I will answer your question though: Hamas should keep fighting as long as Israel keeps mass murdering, genociding and subjecting Palestinians to apartheid and oppression. There is nothing else Hamas can do. Accepting the status quo is unfortunately not an option.
Now since you are such a stand up guy, answer my question. And it is an either or type of question as well: At this point, after 75 years, do you think Israel should continue their apartheid, mass murder, oppression and land stealing or reverse course, change policy and address root causes of the conflict and work for Palestinian sovereignty instead?
[/QUOTE]That's like asking, "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
Ask me an honest question that is not based on lies and I'll give you an honest answer.
BTW, when is the last time/how many times has Hamas formally asked for diplomatic talks (to be moderated by mutually agreed upon countries) to try to resolve their grievances instead of launching rocket and terror attacks?
Civilized, truly peace loving people always have that option. So yes, there are things they can do beside launching terrorist attacks. Neutral terrorist attacks, obviously.
p.s. You corrected me on the spelling of Gandhi, so:
Genocide is a noun, not a verb.
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Because you know it essentially can not be done except in rare occasions where Hamas screws up and info somehow gets back to israel.
Hamas offers truce in return for 1967 borders
The leader of Hamas said Monday that his Palestinian militant group would offer Israel a 10-year truce as implicit proof of recognition of Israel if it withdrew from all lands it seized in 1967.
In their 2017 policy document, they do have a line about the '67 lines but it is surrounded by:
- The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah
- There shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist entity. Whatever has befallen the land of Palestine in terms of occupation, settlement building, judaisation or changes to its features or falsification of facts is illegitimate. Rights never lapse.
- Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.
- Hamas rejects all the agreements, initiatives and settlement projects that are aimed at undermining the Palestinian cause and the rights of our Palestinian people. In this regard, any stance, initiative or political programme must not in any way violate these rights and should not contravene them or contradict them.
They could have if they had done all the things they've been accused of like: carpet bombing, bombing indiscriminately, targetting civilians, targetting hospitals and schools that weren't Hamas enclaves, flooding every tunnel, burning Gazans alive, deceiving civilians as to where the safer places to stay were, not sending flyers showing the civilians which routes that Israel has secured for them to use, using nukes like frank suggested. Those would have all sped up proceedings.
Yes, they could have done it faster. Thanks for helping me point out the ways that, even though it's taking them more time, they have tried to spare as many Palestinian lives as possible. You have helped point out how difficult the task was with Hamas using as many human shields as they could. It's virtually impossible but Israel is taking precautions that are unprecedented in wartime to try to save lives.
Thank you zsyd, you have provided an invaluable service to the people reading this thread and looking for some truth. Shalom.
