Pickering Angels

Israel at war

versitile1

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Lol.

Btw did you know that a half a trillion in natural gas is sitting off the coast in Gaza?


And the present exploration deal with BP expires in 2 years?

And that it would likely solve Europe's problem with gas from Russia?
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So long as an ally controls it?

The original agreement, which the Americans supported as a means to lift the Palestinians out of squalor, was wasted by Hamas. They did nothing with it.

Thats again the stupidity that exists with them. To busy training to be Terrorists instead of joining OPEC. Its not a culture. Just a collection of corruption, backward religious fervor, violence, and a complete lack of ambition or understanding of the world.

So watch as they lose it.

And ya, good dudes, great senses of absurdist humour. We all have real lives so can only get together occasionally. But worth it every time. I will see them at Christmas when they come over to my house to admire my tree.
Yeah sure.

"I, as a superior white man, have brown muzzies over Christmas every so I can tell them they all belong to a death cult. They then worship my white Christian Christmas tree (which originated from pagan religions).

No one believes you.
 

versitile1

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I'm confused, but doesn't the Quran declare violence against non-believers?
Did you read it, or are you going on what other people say?

Do you think every Muslim follows every word exactly in the Quran?
 

versitile1

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Read it again. The deal was signed with Hamas.
No, the deal was signed by the Palestinian Authority. Hamas is not even mentioned once in the article. But keep lying to push your narrative.
 

Butler1000

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Yeah sure.

"I, as a superior white man, have brown muzzies over Christmas every so I can tell them they all belong to a death cult. They then worship my white Christian Christmas tree (which originated from pagan religions).

No one believes you.
Nope. They come over to eat, laugh, and just have fun. Good modern guys. Absolutely my peers, and smarter than me on tech. They don't worship a death cult. That's the point. They observe some things to keep family off their backs, but really lead a North American life.

Tif their types were tunning Gaza, none of this happens.

They would have exploited the Gas deal by having their children educated to work on the platforms, to become engineers, builders, riggers. Then set up a sovereign wealth fund for Gaza infrastructure improvement. The USA and world would have backed this. Even protected them and offered loans and grants. The economic spill over would have added a slow cascade to tourism, food production, some manufacturing, and services that would have created mass employment opportinities.

All that would have led to full recognition of them as a state, with spillover to the West Bank.

And think about how they would be now positioned to supply Europe in light of Russia. The power and position that would have added.

Seriously, the equivalent is if 20 TRILLION was found off the coast of Canada, and the game changer it would be.

Instead they chose to follow the ways of an 8th century desert warlord. Charlie Manson of the Saudi Desert. Its a waste. Its a stagnant culture. Backward. More concerned with rules and the afterlife than growth and progress.

Just another example. Hell even the Saudi Royals get it, why do you think they were signing a peace deal?
 

versitile1

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As the govt sovereignty transfered. Cripes that's what happens in these cases.
No. You said the deal was signed by Hamas, when in fact, the deal was signed by the PA. Hamas had nothing to do with signing the deal. Just more lies by you to try to further your narrative of hate towards Palestinians and Muslims in general.

And you had the nerve to tell someone to "read the article again", when you didn't even read it yourself.
 
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No. You said the deal was signed by Hamas, when in fact, the deal was signed by the PA. Hamas had nothing to do with signing the deal. Just more lies by you to try to further your narrative of hate towards Palestinians and Muslims in general.

And you had the nerve to tell someone to "read the article again", when you didn't even read it yourself.
So, then electing Hamas scuttled it? Is that what you are saying?
 
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versitile1

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So, then electing Hamas scuttled it? Is that what you are saying?
No, what I'm saying is you lied to further your narrative of hate towards Palestinians and Muslims in general. Did you even read your article that you posted?
 

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Yup, I saw that but it's been evident in Frankie's nonstop posts in anything to do with Palestine he supports HAMAS and thinks Israel is the monster. I just hope for Frankie's sake he's Palestinian or at the very least Arab because if not, it is a serious obsession. I can understand if one has skin in the game by being very passionate even if he or she is wrong.
 

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No, what I'm saying is you lied to further your narrative of hate towards Palestinians and Muslims in general. Did you even read your article that you posted?
You really do represent the failure of the Palestinians. This is your biggest concern, me, and not the abject failure to progress. Better to gripe over nothing than move forward.

Fine, it wasn't signed by Hamas. But they took over responsibility for exploiting the opportunity to uplift the Gazans.

And what did they do with it exactly?
 
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Yup, I saw that but it's been evident in Frankie's nonstop posts in anything to do with Palestine he supports HAMAS and thinks Israel is the monster. I just hope for Frankie's sake he's Palestinian or at the very least Arab because if not, it is a serious obsession. I can understand if one has skin in the game by being very passionate even if he or she is wrong.
I have Palestinian and Jewish friends, but it was the Jewish friends who got me interested in the history.

I don't support Hamas, I support Palestinians and the end of apartheid.
All the zionist supporters here can offer is more violence and racism.

This board skews very right/racist in these threads.
The zionists don't realize that the world sees their movement as the last of racist, colonialism.

 

Frankfooter

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As the govt sovereignty transfered. Cripes that's what happens in these cases.
The Israeli government, especially Netanyahu, has for years supported Hamas as a way to divide Palestinians.
Keeping Fatah pissed at Hamas worked in their interest at keeping Palestinian resistance from having a united front internationally, with the added bonus of being able to use the word 'terrorist' in every statement.

 

versitile1

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You really do represent the failure of the Palestinians. This is your biggest concern, me, and not the abject failure to progress. Better to gripe over nothing than move forward.

Fine, it wasn't signed by Hamas. But they took over responsibility for exploiting the opportunity to uplift the Gazans.

And what did they do with it exactly?
Do I? By exposing your lies? The real question is; what do you gain by lying so much?

Everyone here knows your plans to "uplift" the Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank.
 
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There have been no peace since hamas took charge... because hamas don't want peace...says so in their covenant and it was proven on October 7....
Still talking about oct 7 . What about the Palestine 🇵🇸 people they had been bully by Israel from several decades.
IDF and Israel prime Minister don't want peace, they committed war crimes and genocide .
Even some of the hostages don't like Israel prime Minister is doing
 

Frankfooter

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I suspect your Jewish friends are no longer your friends if you share your thoughts on this war as you do here.
I had a good discussion with two of them on Friday night. They mentioned its easier to talk the situation with someone like me rather than their more hardcore zionists friends, some of whom they've had to move out of their social worlds.

You should join one of the marches to get a sense of the crowd, at all the Palestine marches there are Jews there who make a point of being visible and being against the occupation. Those ones feel safer out in public than I'd expect shack would ever feel if he took an Israeli flag with him.

You have a choice to join a massive diverse and peaceful crowd or a very white looking, tiny crowd with massive police protection these days.

 
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