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Israel at war

squeezer

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Quite simply, you cannot oppress and dehumanize a people for decades and expect for there to be no terrorism. For us they are terrorists, for them they are freedom fighters. So to nip the terrorism in the bud, the oppression needs to end. Once and for all. I can guarantee you that in the last 1 month alone, Israel has probably created many, 1000s of terrorists.
If Palestine under the Hamas leadership was a good neighbor do you think Israel would using your word "oppress" them??

If we occasionally lobbed over a few missiles into Buffalo, sent over FrankFooter with a backpack on into Niagra on the US side and he went 💥what do you think good old Biden or a Trump or even an Obama be doing to us?? Go ahead, think it through, and then throw out your spin.
 

mandrill

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I gladly would. Because no babies were roasted in ovens in the first place. That is some nonsensical propaganda by the Israelis.

And if this isn't occupation then what is? These people have no shame, no humility, no humanity, no conscience or a moral compass. Just pure unadulterated racism and hatred towards a defenseless people.

No Israeli women was raped either, right?

HAMAS just went over to hand out cookies.
 

Leimonis

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No Israeli women was raped either, right?

HAMAS just went over to hand out cookies.
In memory of another anti colonialist freedom fighter osama bin laden
 
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mandrill

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No Israeli women were raped.


No babies were beheaded, or roasted in ovens.

All of that is false propaganda.



Do you understand that Gaza is not a "neighbouring state" like Canada is to the US, but rather 2.2M Palestinians isolated and herded into a small city, that is controlled by land, air and sea, by Israel, including water, power and food? It is not a "free state". It is literally an open air prison, where Palestinians do not have sovereignty. They aren't even allowed to have an airport or a sea port. Infact, they are herded into that small place, because Israel has stolen Palestinian land. I have no idea why instead of actually reading about the history of that place, you keep making these simplistic and erroneous arguments, with false comparisons. When you do that to people, they will fight back. We call it terrorism, they call it fighting for freedom.

There is no "peace" there. It is in a permanent state of war. People in Gaza, don't want to remain in Gaza. They want their lands back. So there is no scope for them to "be a good neighbour", because they are not neighbours or even treated as neighbours in the first place. They are for the lack of a better word, prisoners.

Also forgetting Gaza for a second, how do you explain what Israel has been doing in the West Bank?

Watch the series Born in Gaza on Netflix to get an idea of things there.
 

mandrill

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No Israeli women were raped.


No babies were beheaded, or roasted in ovens.

All of that is false propaganda.



Do you understand that Gaza is not a "neighbouring state" like Canada is to the US, but rather 2.2M Palestinians isolated and herded into a small city, that is controlled by land, air and sea, by Israel, including water, power and food? It is not a "free state". It is literally an open air prison, where Palestinians do not have sovereignty. They aren't even allowed to have an airport or a sea port. Infact, they are herded into that small place, because Israel has stolen Palestinian land. I have no idea why instead of actually reading about the history of that place, you keep making these simplistic and erroneous arguments, with false comparisons. When you do that to people, they will fight back. We call it terrorism, they call it fighting for freedom.

There is no "peace" there. It is in a permanent state of war. People in Gaza, don't want to remain in Gaza. They want their lands back. So there is no scope for them to "be a good neighbour", because they are not neighbours or even treated as neighbours in the first place. They are for the lack of a better word, prisoners.

Also forgetting Gaza for a second, how do you explain what Israel has been doing in the West Bank?

Watch the series Born in Gaza on Netflix to get an idea of things there.
 
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Leimonis

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And whether or not Hamas used the hospital it is a war crime to attack it.

And it looks like he is implying that it takes time to set up the photo ops. This time without mistakes and cock ups. 😂
So what’s your opinion on another anti colonialist and freedom fighter, osama bin laden?
 

basketcase

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And whether or not Hamas used the hospital it is a war crime to attack it.

And it looks like he is implying that it takes time to set up the photo ops. This time without mistakes and cock ups. 😂
Sorry but you should check international law. It loses status as a protected site when used for military purposes. The only question is whether any civilian death toll is proportionate to the military value.

If Israel flattened the hospital, it quite possibly would be a war crime based on proportionality but that's not what they did. Instead they risked their soldiers to go in to the hospital with medical staff, medical supplies, fuel, and Arabic speakers to interview patients and shelter seekers and let them go on with their lives of they weren't fighters.

 

squeezer

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No Israeli women were raped.


No babies were beheaded, or roasted in ovens.

All of that is false propaganda.



Do you understand that Gaza is not a "neighbouring state" like Canada is to the US, but rather 2.2M Palestinians isolated and herded into a small city, that is controlled by land, air and sea, by Israel, including water, power and food? It is not a "free state". It is literally an open air prison, where Palestinians do not have sovereignty. They aren't even allowed to have an airport or a sea port. Infact, they are herded into that small place, because Israel has stolen Palestinian land. I have no idea why instead of actually reading about the history of that place, you keep making these simplistic and erroneous arguments, with false comparisons. When you do that to people, they will fight back. We call it terrorism, they call it fighting for freedom.

There is no "peace" there. It is in a permanent state of war. People in Gaza, don't want to remain in Gaza. They want their lands back. So there is no scope for them to "be a good neighbour", because they are not neighbours or even treated as neighbours in the first place. They are for the lack of a better word, prisoners.

Also forgetting Gaza for a second, how do you explain what Israel has been doing in the West Bank?

Watch the series Born in Gaza on Netflix to get an idea of things there.
I will label this entire post as Hamas propaganda. Should we give the land your home is on back to the indigenous folks who it was stolen from? So in your perfect world, the Israelis are pushed into the sea and the Palestinians get their land back? Woooooohoooo, I want to lick AOC's pussy but guess what, I can't, it's not happening. Somethings are fantasies and unfortunately, there is reality.
 
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Klatuu

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And whether or not Hamas used the hospital it is a war crime to attack it.

And it looks like he is implying that it takes time to set up the photo ops. This time without mistakes and cock ups. 😂
Another Israeli PR own goal…Hamas had previously announced they had taken wounded hostages to be treated. It was already known. But acknowledging that Hamas is tending to the needs of hostages doesn’t fit with the atrocity narrative. Treating wounded at a hospital, no matter who they are, is not a military use. If Hamas had not treated the wounded, Israel would be shrieking about that.
 
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