Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?

Leimonis

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Trump, Putin, and Iran have nothing to do with caring about dead and dying babies. Only an insane person would make that connection.
I explained the connection and you have no counter argument except calling me insane. So keep whining and IDF will keep getting Israel rid of terrorists.
 

Frankfooter

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So, was the Oct. 7 attack worth it, in light this suffering? Did it justify what Gazans are going through right now?
Palestinians, shack.

Stop with your racism and use the word 'Palestinian'.
Then tell us how you think Zionism is worth it, how you now feel like you could safely walk down any street in Canada with an Israeli flag and feel safe and loved.

And if not, let me buy you a Keffiyeh so you can safely walk anywhere and feel the support of Canadians against racist oppression.
 

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I explained the connection and you have no counter argument except calling me insane. So keep whining and IDF will keep getting Israel rid of terrorists.
Yes, the IDF has now managed to track down and is preparing to kill a group of 40 terrorists who were hiding at the Al Shifa hospital.
congrats

 

versitile1

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I explained the connection and you have no counter argument except calling me insane. So keep whining and IDF will keep getting Israel rid of terrorists.
Because your "connections" make no sense whatsoever. You think by saying "caring about dead and dying babies only helps Trump, Putin and Iran," is going to stop people from dead and dying babies?
You see all Palestinians as terrorists, deserving of collective punishment. Just admit it.
 
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Yes, the IDF has now managed to track down and is preparing to kill a group of 40 terrorists who were hiding at the Al Shifa hospital.
congrats

They think caring about dead and dying babies helps Trump, Putin and Iran. They also think Palestinians are dishonest because, in their words, "they'll rip you off if you buy an antique rug from them".
 

Leimonis

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Because your "connections" make no sense whatsoever. You think by saying "caring about dead and dying babies only helps Trump, Putin and Iran," is going to stop people from dead and dying babies?
You see all Palestinians as terrorists, deserving of collective punishment. Just admit it.
okay I'll explain as if we were in kindergarten
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shack

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Stop lying, shack.
It is 100% true.

You said:
Yes, Palestinians have been suffering ....the last 41 days have been some of the worst.
In spite of this:

You support the Oct. 7 attack.
You immediately knew this attack would result in Gazan death and suffering yet you still don't condemn that attack.
The only logical conclusion to be derived from these 2 statements is that you support Gazan deaths.
The logic is irrefutable.

You complain that:

The response is disproportionate in terms of damage done to each side (1,400 Israelis vs.10,000 Gazans AND the demolition of Gaza AND the ongoing barrage) yet you refuse to admit that the Hamas attack was not worth it. That means that you think Oct.7 was worth it.
Conclusion: You support the deaths of Gazans that have occurred, and furthermore you approve of the ongoing and future death and destruction of Gazans and Gaza.
Once again, the logic is flawless and the conclusion irrefutable.

If you admit that the Oct. 7 attack was not worth the price to Gaza, then my argument is flawed.

If you do not make that admission, I have proved my case and you have no right to call me a liar. Stop.

Was the Oct. 7 attack worth what is happening to Gaza right now?

frank approves of the ongoing and future death and destruction of Gazans and Gaza.
 
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It is 100% true.

You said:


In spite of this:

You support the Oct. 7 attack.
You immediately knew this attack would result in Gazan death and suffering yet you still don't condemn that attack.
The only logical conclusion to be derived from these 2 statements is that you support Gazan deaths.
The logic is irrefutable.

You complain that:

The response is disproportionate in terms of damage done to each side (1,400 Israelis vs.10,000 Gazans AND the demolition of Gaza AND the ongoing barrage) yet you refuse to admit that the Hamas attack was not worth it. That means that you think Oct.7 was worth it.
Conclusion: You support the deaths of Gazans that have occurred, and furthermore you approve of the ongoing and future death and destruction of Gazans and Gaza.
Once again, the logic is flawless and the conclusion irrefutable.

If you admit that the Oct. 7 attack was not worth the price to Gaza, then my argument is flawed.

If you do not make that admission, I have proved my case and you have no right to call me a liar. Stop.

Was the Oct. 7 attack worth what is happening to Gaza right now?

frank approves of the ongoing and future death and destruction of Gazans and Gaza.
Your inner monologue needs more bold, some red fonts and more exclamation points.

The reality is that I've been posting support of BDS to end Israeli apartheid here for years.
I don't support violence by either sided, sanctions will get us there without any deaths to any civilans.

Your racism includes the view though, that indigenous Palestinians do not have the right to self defence against an illegal occupation of their land. Palestinians do have the right to self defence, but not the right to target civilians any more than Israelis do. But saying this doesn't mean I support attacks by either side, only that as the US said, it was inevitable as long as the occupation lasts.

Zionism has made Jews less safe and killed tens of thousands of Palestinians.
Its a moral failure and a tactical disaster.

Its time to end the occupation and apartheid.
Give Palestinians citizenship, full human rights and the vote.

Ceasefire.
End the violence
End apartheid.

And stop fucking lying about what I say here.
Its sad.

 
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Leimonis

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So not caring about dead and dying babies will defeat Trump, Putin, and Iran? Is this the latest from the IDF troll farm?
Don’t straw man me.
Once again.
Whining about Gaza will help splitting the Democrats which tremendously helps trump.
It will help Putin and already has helped because Ukraine is not in the news anymore while they are running out of ammo.
It will help Iran and other terrorists because it shows that human shields work and because it messes with israel.
 

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Don’t straw man me.
Once again.
Whining about Gaza will help splitting the Democrats which tremendously helps trump.
It will help Putin and already has helped because Ukraine is not in the news anymore while they are running out of ammo.
It will help Iran and other terrorists because it shows that human shields work and because it messes with israel.
Blame Biden.

He should listen to the 80% of dems that want a ceasefire.
Listen to the people.

 
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shack

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Palestinians, shack.
Deflection. No answer.

I'll answer for you because you're afraid to admit that you support the attack and the price being paid in Gaza is worth it.

frank supports the death and suffering that is occurring in Gaza.
 

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Yes, the IDF has now managed to track down and is preparing to kill a group of 40 terrorists who were hiding at the Al Shifa hospital.
congrats

Let's interview Hamas what they think of this picture... were they avoiding the conflict?
 

Frankfooter

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Deflection. No answer.

I'll answer for you because you're afraid to admit that you support the attack and the price being paid in Gaza is worth it.

frank supports the death and suffering that is occurring in Gaza.
No, shack, stop the fucking lying.
I do not support the death and suffering of any peoples, including Palestinians in Gaza and Israelis.

That is an out and out denunciation of your claims.
So just stop the lying.

Compare my clear denunciation with your refusal, for 41 days running, to even say that killing children and babies is wrong.
You still refuse to say killing children is wrong.

Zionism is now the flag of genocide.
 
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versitile1

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Don’t straw man me.
Once again.
Whining about Gaza will help splitting the Democrats which tremendously helps trump.
It will help Putin and already has helped because Ukraine is not in the news anymore while they are running out of ammo.
It will help Iran and other terrorists because it shows that human shields work and because it messes with israel.
And once again. Those are not "reasons" or "justifications" to turn a blind eye to dead and dying Palestinian babies and children. Your "reasons" make about as much sense as your statement saying Palestinians will mess up counting the dead in Gaza because, "they'll rip you off when you buy an antique rug from them". It makes zero sense whatsoever.
 
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Frankfooter

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I explained the connection and you have no counter argument except calling me insane. So keep whining and IDF will keep getting Israel rid of terrorists.
Really you should be looking at the connection between Israel's action and this.

Which is related to this.
Do Americans believe Hamas is a terrorist organization? - Poll
In the age category 18-29, only 50% of American adults believe that Hamas is a terrorist organization.
 

Leimonis

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And once again. Those are not "reasons" or "justifications" to turn a blind eye to dead and dying Palestinian babies and children. Your "reasons" make about as much sense as your statement saying Palestinians will mess up counting the dead in Gaza because, "they'll rip you off when you buy an antique rug from them". It makes zero sense whatsoever.
I would be sceptical about any numbers during any war.
Quite apart from it, I would be sceptical about numbers coming from people who make a bulk of their money by complaining to the world about being victimized.

But numbers controlled by hamas terrorists do not exist for me.

Edit - and they are reasons because you are unable to refute them.
 
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versitile1

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I would be sceptical about any numbers during any war.
Quite apart from it, I would be sceptical about numbers coming from people who make a bulk of their money by complaining to the world about being victimized.

But numbers controlled by hamas terrorists do not exist for me.
You've already stated that you think all Palestinians in Gaza are Hamas or collateral damage, so any number of dead Palestinian civilians would be justified in your eyes. 20,000, 30,000, 40,000. The more, the better for you, eh?
 
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Frankfooter

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I would be sceptical about any numbers during any war.
Quite apart from it, I would be sceptical about numbers coming from people who make a bulk of their money by complaining to the world about being victimized.

But numbers controlled by hamas terrorists do not exist for me.

Edit - and they are reasons because you are unable to refute them.
You can't refute this.

 
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