Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?

[silentkisser]

This whole situation is a fucking mess. Israel needs to destroy Hamas. They cannot be allowed any standing in Gaza (or anywhere else). But Israel is also fighting this war with one hand tied behind its back. Hamas is using the Palestinian people as disposable pawns. They build their headquarters and supply depots (legit military targets) in heavily populated areas and don't allow civilians to leave....like under a hospital.

Now, all that being said, Israel does not have a clean slate here. They've killed (accidentally?) thousands of children and civilians. People who are basically at the whim of Hamas. They probably cannot leave, and are stuck in the danger zone. So, when it comes to winning any sort of PR war, nobody is really winning here. Israel will be slammed for anything they do, and anything Hamas says should be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt. Regardless of what happened, this issue/anger between the two sides will not change. If anything, it might burn a lot hotter....

 

[richaceg]

This whole situation is a fucking mess. Israel needs to destroy Hamas. They cannot be allowed any standing in Gaza (or anywhere else). But Israel is also fighting this war with one hand tied behind its back. Hamas is using the Palestinian people as disposable pawns. They build their headquarters and supply depots (legit military targets) in heavily populated areas and don't allow civilians to leave....like under a hospital.

Now, all that being said, Israel does not have a clean slate here. They've killed (accidentally?) thousands of children and civilians. People who are basically at the whim of Hamas. They probably cannot leave, and are stuck in the danger zone. So, when it comes to winning any sort of PR war, nobody is really winning here. Israel will be slammed for anything they do, and anything Hamas says should be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt. Regardless of what happened, this issue/anger between the two sides will not change. If anything, it might burn a lot hotter....

Definitely agreed on your statements....the end game is not ceasefire...Hamas has already stated, they will keep on doing Oct7 massacre...despite the reported 10k civilian casualties...that's where they stand....

 

[Leimonis]

This is your wet dream. Right from Israeli official's mouth.

Israeli official says "Gaza Nakba" underway, Palestinians to be displaced

"From an operational point of view, there is no way to wage a war," Israeli Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter said.

www.newsweek.com

Israeli Officials' Plans to Ethnically Cleanse, Recolonize Gaza Stoke 'Second Nakba' Fears | Common Dreams

Meanwhile, West Bank settlers are vowing to slaughter Palestinians, leaving bloody dolls and leaflets with warnings to flee or die.

www.commondreams.org

Luckily Arab countries decided to take Palestinian refugees now!
No wait they told them to go fuck themselves.

 

[richaceg]

This is your wet dream. Right from Israeli official's mouth.

Israeli official says "Gaza Nakba" underway, Palestinians to be displaced

"From an operational point of view, there is no way to wage a war," Israeli Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter said.

www.newsweek.com

Israeli Officials' Plans to Ethnically Cleanse, Recolonize Gaza Stoke 'Second Nakba' Fears | Common Dreams

Meanwhile, West Bank settlers are vowing to slaughter Palestinians, leaving bloody dolls and leaflets with warnings to flee or die.

www.commondreams.org

When gazans speak against Hamas...they get silenced....

 

[Butler1000]

More of your racist and hate-filled claims pretending to know what all Palestinians and Muslims think. You only want ethnic cleansing and collective punishment not only for Palestinians but all Muslims worldwide. Disgusting.

What race is Muslim? I thought they were a religion? And don't you get to choose to be a follower?

 

[versitile1]

Luckily Arab countries decided to take Palestinian refugees now!
No wait they told them to go fuck themselves.

That's why Israeli politicians are saying Canada should take in 200,000+ Palestinians. Do you agree with them?

 

[shack]

Read the frigging reports, shack.
As I said 'mostly equal'.

You're more knowledgeable than I am, right. So this question should be a layup for you.

Please enlighten me with your vast knowledge, in which ways are the Arab citizens of Israel treated less than equal to the other citizens of Israel?

 

[Leimonis]

That's why Israeli politicians are saying Canada should take in 200,000+ Palestinians. Do you agree with them?

As long as arab countries take zero Palestinians I think Canada should take double the amount that Arab countries take!

 

[versitile1]

What race is Muslim? I thought they were a religion? And don't you get to choose to be a follower?

Maybe you can learn something for once, but I doubt it.

Racism;

noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
"a program to combat racism"

Are Arab Muslims part of an Ethnic group? By your definition, one cannot be racist against Jews, because what race are Jews?

It's just more of your dumb repetitive arguments trying to justify collective punishment and ethnic cleansing.

 

[versitile1]

As long as arab countries take zero Palestinians I think Canada should take double that amount!

Why should the Palestinians have to go anywhere? Unless you support ethnically cleansing them from Gaza and the West Bank.

 

[shack]

You said you "didn't think anyone said they supported ethnic cleansing"

. Which means I was not 100% certain of what somebody else posts.

I showed you that at least one poster does. So by your logic, if you don't condemn something, you support it. Either condemn this statement or you support it.

I already said a few pages back that I condemn ethnic cleansing.

Post #507

I don't think that anybody has said that they support ethnic cleansing and I certainly don't.

 

[richaceg]

Maybe you can learn something for once, but I doubt it.

Racism;

noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
"a program to combat racism"

Are Arab Muslims part of an Ethnic group? By your definition, one cannot be racist against Jews, because what race are Jews?

It's just more of your dumb repetitive arguments trying to justify collective punishment and ethnic cleansing.

Delusional talking points...
-Racism!
-Genocide!
-Apartheid!
-Islamophobia!

single word absolutism....with questionable explanations...but hey...just like your jihadist idols....they like absolutism...it's either Allah or the highway...

Here's the facts
-IDF are helping Gazans evacuate
-IDF are targeting Hamas Headquarters not civilians
-Hamas build tunnels to protect Hamas not civilians
-funds from international aide aren't use for the palestinians...
-Arabs and Jews live in Israel with equal rights except conscrption (jews mandatory, arabs voluntary)
-Arabs outside of Israel chose to stay out, not displaced
-If you and your ilk (franky, klatuu & kautliya) want ceasefire, call for the release of hostages....so far, all are whining about ceasefire but none has call for release of hostages...
-I'm not Phil McNasty...

 

[Leimonis]

Why should the Palestinians have to go anywhere? Unless you support ethnically cleansing them from Gaza and the West Bank.

A more interesting question is why nobody in the entire world wants them

 

[versitile1]

. Which means I was not 100% certain of what somebody else posts.


I already said a few pages back that I condemn ethnic cleansing. Post #507


BTW, show me his post where specifically said that he supports ethnic cleansing.

I quoted their post many times already. The last time was post #509 in this thread. Stop acting like you didn't read it. It says right there in the 1st paragraph. They "support the removal of most Palestinians". "Gaza and the West Bank must be resettled". The numerous statements from Israeli politicians. Israeli politicians are literally telling you and the world they plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank.

 

[versitile1]

A more interesting question is why nobody in the entire world wants them

The same thing could've been said about the Jews pre 1948.

 

[richaceg]

Why should the Palestinians have to go anywhere? Unless you support ethnically cleansing them from Gaza and the West Bank.

They don't need to go anywhere...they just need to vote with common sense...you vote radical entities to run your state...you're going to be sacrificed as a human shield....

 

[richaceg]

The same thing could've been said about the Jews pre 1948.

Which countries didn't want to take jews aside from Arabs countries and German allies?

 

[Leimonis]

The same thing could've been said about the Jews pre 1948.

At least Jews were not welcome in non Jewish countries (which is why they need one).
How come Palestinians are not welcome in Arab Muslim countries?

 

[versitile1]

Delusional talking points...
-Racism!
-Genocide!
-Apartheid!
-Islamophobia!

single word absolutism....with questionable explanations...but hey...just like your jihadist idols....they like absolutism...it's either Allah or the highway...

Here's the facts
-IDF are helping Gazans evacuate
-IDF are targeting Hamas Headquarters not civilians
-Hamas build tunnels to protect Hamas not civilians
-funds from international aide aren't use for the palestinians...
-Arabs and Jews live in Israel with equal rights except conscrption (jews mandatory, arabs voluntary)
-Arabs outside of Israel chose to stay out, not displaced
-If you and your ilk (franky, klatuu & kautliya) want ceasefire, call for the release of hostages....so far, all are whining about ceasefire but none has call for release of hostages...
-I'm not Phil McNasty...

Don't be mad, everyone now knows your secret, philly.

 

[versitile1]

At least Jews were not welcome in non Jewish countries (which is why they need one).
How come Palestinians are not welcome in Arab Muslim countries?

How many "Jewish countries" were there pre 1948?

Why should any country "have" to take in Palestinians? Unless you support Palestinians being ethnically cleansed from Gaza and the West Bank. Do you?