How? They only let out news in their favor and cut of news that make them look bad....that's how...I know you're not blind...just your head in the sand...
Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?
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You support ethnic cleansing and collective punishment for all Palestinians for what Hamas and other extremist groups did, and for some imaginary future events. You claim to know what all Muslims that ever existed think. You keep bringing up unrelated conflicts. If anyone is a broken record, it's you. A racist, hate-filled broken record.
Actually, I'm very careful with the words I choose so that my message is clear and unambiguous (sarcastic comments aside
), so there is no doublespeak on my part. You have an opinion and mine is different so obviously I'm going to choose different words and phrases than you do. As well, I state the reasoning for my opinion to try and make myself clear. What do you consider my doublespeak?I don't think that anybody has said that they support ethnic cleansing and I certainly don't. I can't definitively speak for them but I believe that they are saying due to the current situation and the history of the region that once this war started, it was inevitable that thousands of innocent civilians were going to get killed and they just accept that fact. Whatever happens, happens. It is what it is and maybe they sounds blase about it but I don't think it means that they support ethnic cleansing. And I believe that they think as I do, that what's happening is not collective punishment but that Hamas, Israel's actual target, is making it impossible to avoid the collateral damage/loss of gazan life.
But what I do support is Israel's right to defend themselves, which means completely obliterating Hamas, and it's not their fault if Hamas has no value for Gazan lives and is using them as human shields. That's been my point all along.
It's a figure of speech.
Back in the day I was extremely active, spent waaay too much money and posted many, many reviews, enough such that I got recruited to join a private board and had the private numbers of several agency owners. Nowadays I stick mainly to sugar babies but I did post a review or two this year of SP/MP. And as far as the SBs, I have contributed significantly to the threads that deal with that topic talking about my experiences and what techniques have worked for me in terms attracting SBs and negotiating techniques.
If those other guys don't post reviews (not that I check on them) how is that a reflection on me?
See now you are just shooting from the lip. You have no idea which way my moral compass points.
On most issues I am certainly quite left of centre but in no way extreme or even woke. I stated on many occasions that in spite of that, I am not beholden to any ideologies, left or right. I am able to think for myself and as such I look at each issue based on its' own merits. To show you how wrong you characterized me, I am strongly pro-choice, I am strongly in favour of much stronger gun control measures, the truckers were ignorant, selfish MAGA wannabes that got off way too easy and left on many other issues. Where I skew to the right is in supporting the police (to a point.--too much brutality on their part and especially in the US) and as you have very astutely surmised, Sherlock I am pro-Israel. If being pro-Israel means I'm to the right on that issue, so be it. But I think for myself.
TBH, I don't even know why the middle east is a left/right topic. Tons and tons of Democrats support Israel.
But for you to paint me as a capital "C" conservative is a laughable mischaracterization. I can't even remember the last time I voted Conservative.
Don't have the time to reply to your whole message but I'll just start here.
I actually didn't have the time to type that whole message.
As I said in my post I can't definitively speak for anyone else.
Blocking all food, water and power is not just collective punishment but genocidal and clearly not targeted towards Hamas.
You refuse to admit this.
You also refuse to accept Palestinians have any rights, especially the right to the self defence.
For some reason you don't think the indigenous people have a right to self defence from an illegal occupation.
You refuse to discuss this.
Yup. Because the alternative is the ethnic cleansing of Jews. So I picked a side.
You are just to naive to realize it. The Palestinians are incapable of coming to the peace table. They want the war and are too stupid to realize they will lose. Because the world sees them for what they are and won't help them. Its not about Israel wanting this. Its about the Palestinians would rather choose to die off than live in peace.
Read the frigging reports, shack.
As I said 'mostly equal'.
Its all detailed in the UN, HRW, Amnesty and B'tselem reports.
I refuse to discuss these details with an ignorant racist who won't do the basic research to debate a subject.
Israel is apartheid.
Israel's apartheid against Palestinians
Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
www.amnesty.org
A Threshold Crossed
The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...
Apartheid
The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...
Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territory is ‘apartheid’: UN rights expert
Calling on the international community to accept and adopt the recent findings in his report, an independent human rights expert said on Friday that “apartheid is being practiced by Israel in the occupied Palestinian territory”.
Mandrill came out quite strongly arguing for ethnic cleansing, as has butler.
You have not called them out or commented on those posts.
You said you "didn't think anyone said they supported ethnic cleansing". I showed you that at least one poster does. So by your logic, if you don't condemn something, you support it. Either condemn this statement or you support it.
We've read the reports...other than your regurgitation of propaganda news...nobody is calling Israel apartheid.....Read the frigging reports, shack.
As I said 'mostly equal'.
Its all detailed in the UN, HRW, Amnesty and B'tselem reports.
I refuse to discuss these details with an ignorant racist who won't do the basic research to debate a subject.
Israel is apartheid.
Israel's apartheid against Palestinians
Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
A Threshold Crossed
The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...www.hrw.org
Apartheid
The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...www.btselem.org
Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territory is ‘apartheid’: UN rights expert
Calling on the international community to accept and adopt the recent findings in his report, an independent human rights expert said on Friday that “apartheid is being practiced by Israel in the occupied Palestinian territory”.news.un.org
More of your racist and hate-filled claims pretending to know what all Palestinians and Muslims think. You only want ethnic cleansing and collective punishment not only for Palestinians but all Muslims worldwide. Disgusting.
I don't support ethnic cleansing...is ethnic cleansing happening? don'tthink so...
why bother evacuating civilians if they want to "cleanse"? why not shoot them? or it's just your wet dream?
IDF issues urgent evacuation order to Gaza City neighborhoods | The Jerusalem Post
Israeli Air Force struck about 200 Hamas targets in the past day • Israeli Navy strikes military camp used by Hamas's naval forces
www.jpost.com
This is your wet dream. Right from Israeli official's mouth.I don't support ethnic cleansing...is ethnic cleansing happening? don'tthink so...
why bother evacuating civilians if they want to "cleanse"? why not shoot them? or it's just your wet dream?
IDF issues urgent evacuation order to Gaza City neighborhoods | The Jerusalem Post
Israeli Air Force struck about 200 Hamas targets in the past day • Israeli Navy strikes military camp used by Hamas's naval forces
Israeli official says "Gaza Nakba" underway, Palestinians to be displaced
"From an operational point of view, there is no way to wage a war," Israeli Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter said.
www.newsweek.com
Israeli Officials' Plans to Ethnically Cleanse, Recolonize Gaza Stoke 'Second Nakba' Fears | Common Dreams
Meanwhile, West Bank settlers are vowing to slaughter Palestinians, leaving bloody dolls and leaflets with warnings to flee or die.
www.commondreams.org
This whole situation is a fucking mess. Israel needs to destroy Hamas. They cannot be allowed any standing in Gaza (or anywhere else). But Israel is also fighting this war with one hand tied behind its back. Hamas is using the Palestinian people as disposable pawns. They build their headquarters and supply depots (legit military targets) in heavily populated areas and don't allow civilians to leave....like under a hospital.
Now, all that being said, Israel does not have a clean slate here. They've killed (accidentally?) thousands of children and civilians. People who are basically at the whim of Hamas. They probably cannot leave, and are stuck in the danger zone. So, when it comes to winning any sort of PR war, nobody is really winning here. Israel will be slammed for anything they do, and anything Hamas says should be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt. Regardless of what happened, this issue/anger between the two sides will not change. If anything, it might burn a lot hotter....
Now, all that being said, Israel does not have a clean slate here. They've killed (accidentally?) thousands of children and civilians. People who are basically at the whim of Hamas. They probably cannot leave, and are stuck in the danger zone. So, when it comes to winning any sort of PR war, nobody is really winning here. Israel will be slammed for anything they do, and anything Hamas says should be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt. Regardless of what happened, this issue/anger between the two sides will not change. If anything, it might burn a lot hotter....
Definitely agreed on your statements....the end game is not ceasefire...Hamas has already stated, they will keep on doing Oct7 massacre...despite the reported 10k civilian casualties...that's where they stand....
