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K Douglas

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Klingberg is a terrible defenseman. Look at his +/- the past few years. Not a smart acquisition.
Liljegren being out is really hurting us. As is our 4th line - they have been horrific.
I think we are going to need to acquire a solid D man and perhaps another goalie, unless Samsonov can get his head right.
 

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Part of the Canucks rejuvenation was a change of coaches that resulted in a major improvement. Do you thimk with the current Leafs line up a coaching change would result in the same type of improvement?
I'm happy for Rick Tochet, Wayne Gretzky threw him under a bus over his brain dead wife's gambling addiction. Now the Canucks are spanking the Oilers, revenge is a dish served with cold cuts.

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not always sure...
The Leafs will lose to the red-hot Canucks, that's a given, the Leafs have trouble against Demko. But if the Leafs lose to Calgary, something has to be done.
Calgary?
Calgary in 12 games have 4 wins in regulation time.
Toronto in 13 games have 3 regulation time wins.

Anything can happen in one game.
And if Calgary were to win, is that even an upset?


People need to stop crapping on the goaltenders.
Vegas in their playoff run last year went through 4 goaltenders, losing 3 to injury.
They all looked good and competent because of the team structure in front of them, keeping shots to the perimeter.
It's not because they were way better than Woll or Samsonov.
 
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superstar_88

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Some perspective here.
Woll has started 6 games with a .913 save percentage
Only 11 players in the entire league who have started in 6 or more games have a better save percentage.
Let's not trade Matthews for a bag of pucks after each game he doesn't score.
 

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Some perspective here.
Woll has started 6 games with a .913 save percentage
Only 11 players in the entire league who have started in 6 or more games have a better save percentage.
Let's not trade Matthews for a bag of pucks after each game he doesn't score.
The worse thing they can do to screw up the development of a young promising goalie is to put a horrible defensive core in front of him, and that‘s exactly what the Leafs are doing to Woll. He may still turn out to be a bust but he deserves better. Not only the defence men are bad, the forwards other than the core four aren’t putting up good effort defensively. The new additions, Bertuzzi, Domi, Reaves are not checking diligently and some dumb penalties by Bertuzzi. I’d say if they don’t play a better structured defence within the next 10-15 games, then Keefe may need to be replaced.[/QUOTE]
 
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Klingberg was the 7th defenseman at practice today. What does that mean? Are the Leafs rolling 7D? Klingberg sits?

Rielly — Brodie
Giordano — McCabe
Benoit — Lagesson
Klingberg

 
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superstar_88

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Klingberg was the 7th defenseman at practice today. What does that mean? Are the Leafs rolling 7D? Klingberg sits?

Rielly — Brodie
Giordano — McCabe
Benoit — Lagesson
Klingberg

Definitely 7 D.
This is Keefe's way of protecting him.
Play him only on the power play or when they are down and need a goal.
If Leafs get the lead he'll be stapled to the bench.

Thing is he hasn't been that good on the PP either.
Rielly has been better but they want to save Rielly for 5 on 5 where he has been excellent.
Both he and Brodie are +6 leading the team.

Through 13 games Rielly leads the team in even strength time on ice and it's not even close. 21:56
Brodie is next at 18:55
Shockingly Klingberg is 3rd at 17:15
Next 3 are Matthews, Marner, and Nylander.
Then Lili, McCabe, Gio, Tavares, Bert in that order.
 
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Sportsnet is reporting Klingberg is not going to play tonight. Keefe is saying it's health related.
 

superstar_88

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Sportsnet is reporting Klingberg is not going to play tonight. Keefe is saying it's health related.
Well, that is the ultimate way of protecting him
 
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I love how the other William #85 rubs out Kadri in front of Woll after the whistle. If that kid keeps playing like that, he's likely to stay up in the big leagues.
 

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Time to send Reaves to the AHL, minus 2 in about 4.5 minutes played, I can do that in my beer league, the Reaves experiment is over.
 

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I like this Leafs goalie prospect Dennis Hildeby, at 6 foot 7 inches, he's called Hildabeast.

 

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This is the best game I’ve seen Nylander play. He was dominant offensively and back checked as well as any great two way player should. Question remains, will he still play the same way after he gets his big contract ?

Zadarov would bring size and grit and perhaps Robertson plus ( ?) If the Flames are in a rebuild mode, they may take Klingberg off the Leafs if the Leafs would sweeten the pot enough ?
 

superstar_88

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This is the best game I’ve seen Nylander play. He was dominant offensively and back checked as well as any great two way player should. Question remains, will he still play the same way after he gets his big contract ?

Zadarov would bring size and grit and perhaps Robertson plus ( ?) If the Flames are in a rebuild mode, they may take Klingberg off the Leafs if the Leafs would sweeten the pot enough ?
... or perhaps he's still developing and will still be even better.
Ever think about that?

If you were Nylander and you know your value and how good you are why would you sign for less than you think you're worth. Especially why would you sign for less than what Marner is getting and will be gettting. Leafs already shafted him in his current contract.

Don't know why you're so focused on this year. He's been getting better each and every year and he's performed in the playoffs.

It must be killing the Nylander haters that he is playing well that they're grasping at what ifs next year or a minus 2 game. Waiting for when his point streak ends so they can pounce.
 
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Time to send Reaves to the AHL, minus 2 in about 4.5 minutes played, I can do that in my beer league, the Reaves experiment is over.
-11 in 100 minutes of ice time (with 0 goals while your on the ice) is special stuff.
But I'm sure all there opponents have been intimidated by his presence. Certain media and certain fans stuck in the prior century making a big deal of how this "intimidating" signing would significantly improve things had their collective heads up their asses. The Leafs won't be able to afford to waste a lineup spot on him during a playoff game.

And this isn't fully a Leafs fan bash - I spent a weekend about a month ago with my cousin (a Habs fan) and all he wanted the Habs to do was go out an get another fighter or two thinking it would solve everything.
 
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superstar_88

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Vancouver is winners of their last 5 games. That's the longest current winning streak of any team.
Their plus 33 goal differential is best in the league. Better than Vegas second at plus 26
Their 26 goals against is second fewest only to Boston's 25.
Their 2 regulation losses is also second only to Boston's 1.
Leafs playing the second of a back to back and the first went to OT. Vancouver is rested.
Leafs will be playing Samsonov 4.11 GAA and .855 save percentage.
Leafs last 8 home games they've given up 4 or more goals in each.
 
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i,ll give credit where its due. bill nylander playing alot better this year so far. never said the guy was a bad player. if he plays consistantley like he,s done this year, could be a really solid player. its just his half ass effort lots of times that i see.
 

superstar_88

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N Y L A N D E R
Currently top 5 in points
1 pt behind 3rd place Panarin
2 pts behind 2nd place Kucherov
3 pts behind 1st place Pettersson

Of the top 25 points leaders
Kucherov +1
J. Hughes +1
Matthews +1
J Bratt +1
B. Point -7
Marner +1
Scheifele +1
Draisatl -2
Stuetzle +1

So the best players have all had -2 games.
Ron Francis, once a Leaf, is a career -18 so even he had a few -2 games.
 
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