Israel at war

xmontrealer

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I'm sure that's exactly what Hamas says as well, though maybe not with the added war crime of disproportionate response.
You are two peas in a very violent pod, only you want to be 10x more violent.

Now Palestinians will see this and respond to Israeli attacks with 'an eye for an eye' and you'll earn yourselves a few more decades of killing each other.
Congrats, just as you want it.

I don't think anything the Jews might do can make Hamas any angrier, so it's time to shut them down.

What do you do with a mad dog? You kill it!
 

latinboy

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I think you forgot the HRW article I posted which called Palestinian actions a war crime. So I have been equally critical of both.

Its funny how outraged and angry you are at me, because I showed you I responded to a legitimate post of yours.


Oh yeah right, one post of approx 100 others. Riiiiight. I am not "outraged" I just despise trolls like you.
 

latinboy

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Every one of my posts has been critical of right wingers, Trump etc. The 2 or 3 posts I made of Israel/Palestine were equally critical of both. Not Anti-Israel. You are just pissed I responded to your post with Trump's letter to Erdogan and then proceeded to claim you did not bring up Trump. Where is the trolling here?
I never read your "Erdogon" post, sorry to disappoint you. Having already REPLIED to a troll post about Trump, I ignored all others and that includes YOU and your close little friend "Mandrill".
 
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latinboy

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So then how did you claim all my posts were anti-Israel if you did not read my posts? Make it make sense!
I said I did not read your "ERDOGON" post.

WTF is wrong with you?!

Dude, get checked.
 

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I support sanctions through BDS to end apartheid.
Not violence.
Show us the post where you have condemned this terrorist Hamas attack. Au contraire, you justified it. Hypocrite.

You already suggested Israel end this round of violence the way the US ended the war with Japan.
How typical of you. Resorting to lies.

You commented that killing never brings peace. I pointed out a historical case where it did. The nuclear bombs on Japan ended the war. That was the end of my post. I didn't say whether it was right or wrong. I never said that Israel should do likewise. I suggested absolutely nothing. I stated a historical fact. You are projecting your thought process on me.

You support violence. You support the killing of refugees and children in Gaza.
 
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latinboy

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Dude, just say you did not like my response, instead of saying I trolled you, which I did not. Infact I think you may be trolling me! 😂
Omg I did not even read your response so don't flatter yourself lmao. You and your ilk are all the same, many others that come before you are ignored as well.

You only caught my attention because of your ANTI ISRAEL/PRO palestinian rhetoric so soon AFTER stating you don't know much about the topic.

Then the Modi thread and many others, dude get help.
 

Frankfooter

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You commented that killing never brings peace. I pointed out a historical case where it did. The nuclear bombs on Japan ended the war. That was the end of my post. I didn't say whether it was right or wrong. I never said that Israel should do likewise. I suggested absolutely nothing. I stated a historical fact. You are projecting your thought process on me.
Yes, you did claim that using nukes can lead to peace.
In the context of Israel using violence to bring about peace with Gaza.

Then you said this:
You support violence. You support the killing of refugees and children in Gaza.
I'm not the one talking about using nukes.
Nor am I supporting either side using bombs on civilians of any sort.

Nor am I calling for the destruction of either Palestine or Israel.

There would be no pali state regardless of who'd won.
 

latinboy

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Okay, so you did read my post not just here but also in the Modi thread. You say you ignored and then say something I posted caught your attention - when in reality what I posted was calling out both Israel and Palestine.
Stop trolling, it's so ridiculous everyone can see through you lol.

It is hard to get away from your posts because you seem to be here 24/7 everywhere. I am very selective about what threads I read or post on as you can easily see from my participation/postcount. Trust me I've been trolled way harder and better than you so please get over yourself.

Yes I chose to read the Modi thread because it interested me, plus this one, show us where you evenly call out BOTH Israel and Palestine.
 
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That is Frank's tactic. He will just conclude that you said something which you did not, and then proceed to quote you, which will show you that you actually did not say what Frank alleges you are saying and then he will conclude that his original conclusion about what you said was still right. He did that to me in another thread. 😂
I highly recommend to just stop responding to him. I did that a few years ago. It drives him nuts. And stops wasting your time with his crazy.
 
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I didn't notice that the CBC radio news listed the deaths on isreal side With no mention of the retaliation. It makes the it's really sound like angels.

To clarify this was about a Saturday newscast on CBC news radio were deaths on the Palestinians were ignored.

by Sunday on The Sunday Magazine for October 8, 2023
we get 100s 0n both sides have been killed.

so We have more balance coverage starting gon Sunday. television and web have again different takes As well as a new stations.
 

Not getting younger

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This is what happened in 2021, the last time settlers stormed Al Aqsa.
Hamas extremist, militants, freedom fighters. Terrorist. Choose a label they all fit. Admit and Claim that the weekends atrocities are because of this.

- you support this
- you accuse Israel of disproportionate response
-You say Israel should end apartheid and give extremist ( choose a label) what they want.
-You say Israel should end sanctions.

Israeli nationals, racist, terrorist, freedom fighter ( choose a label) respond
-you say they respond disproportionately
- you certainly don’t support them ( perfectly ok)
- you say Isreal should stop and seek peace
- you say the world should sanction Isreal

Maybe just me, but while I can see problems, and inequities etc. What I don’t see is our indigenous peoples firing rockets into crowded areas of Toronto, I don’t see our indigenous peoples brutally murdering children, and civilians. I don’t see our indigenous peoples raping and murdering foreign nationals, I don’t see our indigenous peoples taking you hostage
Etc

And as far as the shit show goes in the Mid East. What’s your solution for the Arab nation , can’t call them freedom fighters, so…The Terrorist, extremist, racist, that want, have and tries to commit genocide against Jews.
 
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Insidious Von

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The situation is not going to get any better.

Anyone who thinks that Netanyahu will be replaced with someone more moderate should quit the verdura. His position is solid with hardcore Orthodox/Zionists supporting him. They want the restoration of King Solomon's Judeah, the West Bank has to be ethnic cleansed to achieve this. This could trigger WW III.

This doesn't justify the attacks on civilians by Hamas, they been planning this since Netanyahu went hard right. The hostages will not survive and the IDF will turn Gaza City into dust. The kill ratio of the IDF raids into West Bank towns was 15 Palestinians to one Israeli killed. Neither side values human life.

 
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Not getting younger

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The situation is not going to get any better.

Anyone who thinks that Netanyahu will be replaced with someone more moderate should quit the verdura. His position is solid with hardcore Orthodox/Zionists supporting him. They want the restoration of King Solomon's Judeah, the West Bank has to be ethnic cleansed to achieve this. This could trigger WW III.

This doesn't justify the attacks on civilians by Hamas, they been planning this since Netanyahu went hard right. The hostages will not survive and the IDF will turn Gaza City into dust. The kill ratio of the IDF raids into West Bank towns was 15 Palestinians to one Israeli.

Im hopeful, it doesn’t spread. Either drag others into it, or others seeing opportunity for more chaos.

Time will tell.
 

Insidious Von

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This war is depressing me to no end, it could have been avoided....I need a moment of levity.


Part II.

 
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Frankfooter

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Hamas extremist, militants, freedom fighters. Terrorist. Choose a label they all fit. Admit and Claim that the weekends atrocities are because of this.

- you support this
- you accuse Israel of disproportionate response
-You say Israel should end apartheid and give extremist ( choose a label) what they want.
-You say Israel should end sanctions.

Israeli nationals, racist, terrorist, freedom fighter ( choose a label) respond
-you say they respond disproportionately
- you certainly don’t support them ( perfectly ok)
- you say Isreal should stop and seek peace
- you say the world should sanction Isreal

Maybe just me, but while I can see problems, and inequities etc. What I don’t see is our indigenous peoples firing rockets into crowded areas of Toronto, I don’t see our indigenous peoples brutally murdering children, and civilians. I don’t see our indigenous peoples raping and murdering foreign nationals, I don’t see our indigenous peoples taking you hostage
Etc

And as far as the shit show goes in the Mid East. What’s your solution for the Arab nation , can’t call them freedom fighters, so…The Terrorist, extremist, racist, that want, have and tries to commit genocide against Jews.
I don't support violence by either side.
We need to force both sides to abide by international law but to do so also requires dealing with Israel's illegal occupation and use of apartheid rule.

Take Hamas leaders and Israeli leaders to the Hague and charge them for everything. All the attacks on civilians, all the war crimes, everything.
Then use BDS to end apartheid.

That is the only non violent path forward left.

“I grieve the Palestinian and Israeli lives lost yesterday, today, and every day,” Tlaib said. “I am determined as ever to fight for a just future where everyone can live in peace, without fear and with true freedom, equal rights, and human dignity. The path to that future must include lifting the blockade, ending the occupation and dismantling the apartheid system that creates the suffocating, dehumanizing conditions that can lead to resistance.

“The failure to recognize the violent reality of living under siege, occupation, and apartheid makes no one safer,” she said. “No person, no child anywhere should have to suffer or live in fear of violence. We cannot ignore the humanity in each other. As long as our country provides billions in unconditional funding to support the apartheid government, this heartbreaking cycle of violence will continue.”
 

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When the IDF starts winning, Hamas will undoubtedly hide out in civilian areas and try to blend in. Sounds like the Israelis are in no mood to be careful.
That is already happening. Rocket launchers are placed in apartment buildings. Death is the currency of Hamas. When Israelis are killed people like frankie and his friends will celebrate as a step towards victory. When a Palestinian is killed it will be a war crime. There is no symmetry. The ultimate losers here after all the death and destruction will be the Palestinian people and the Palestinian cause. If the 2 state solution was not already dead it is at lease deferred for many years. frankie and his friends should be very proud. By the way I have had him on ignore for a long time so i will not hear nor do i care about his attempts to justify or rationalize the barabarism of Hamas.
 

Frankfooter

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That is already happening. Rocket launchers are placed in apartment buildings. Death is the currency of Hamas. When Israelis are killed people like frankie and his friends will celebrate as a step towards victory. When a Palestinian is killed it will be a war crime. There is no symmetry. The ultimate losers here after all the death and destruction will be the Palestinian people and the Palestinian cause. If the 2 state solution was not already dead it is at lease deferred for many years. frankie and his friends should be very proud. By the way I have had him on ignore for a long time so i will not hear nor do i care about his attempts to justify or rationalize the barabarism of Hamas.
Israeli supporters are just like Hamas.
For someone like toguy, death is also his currency.

The only thing I agree with in this post is that the two state solution is dead.
Which leaves only a campaign to deescalate both sides and end apartheid through international sanctions.

Hamas targeted civilians at rave, Israel is targeting civilians in apartment buildings, schools and hospitals using much more lethal weapons.

Israeli air raids hit residences, schools across Gaza: UN rights chief
Israeli air attacks on Gaza have struck residential buildings, including large tower blocks, as well as schools and UN buildings resulting in civilian casualties, the UN’s human rights chief has said, citing information gathered by his office.
“International humanitarian law is clear: the obligation to take constant care to spare the civilian population and civilian objects remains applicable throughout the attacks,” Volker Turk said in a statement.


How can anyone support this?
End the violence and then end apartheid.

 
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