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US-Russia talks: The rubber finally hits the road

versitile1

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trump had a 2.5 hr phone call with Putin yesterday.
I'm sure we'll hear about the new plan or reasons why Ukraine violated the terms of the deal already, very soon.
Putin had his little bitch boy dump on hold for an hour and laughed at him on Russian state TV.

 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
Trump will be incessantly ridiculed until the killing of
Ukrainains finally stops. It is a price he has to pay for
stealing Ukraine's resources and possibly winning the Nobel
peace award. And after the war Trump will still be ridiculed
(though rightfully) for his peace by extortion scheme at
the expense of generations of Ukrainians.

Poking fun on Trump because he is trying to bring the Ukraine war
to an end is not cool. It is not like Putin will kill more Ukrainians
because Trump is licking his boots. I suggest Trump bashers
look to the clowns in the UK, Canada, France and the rest of the
EU to ridicule as well. These clowns will be the last ones to confront
Putin and Russian invading troops like they are true defenders of Ukraine.
 

Valcazar

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Ukraines agreement was unconditional, which means they agreed to any deal the USA agreed to.
Why do you just make shit up?

"I understand that until we agree [with Russia], until there is a corresponding document on even a partial ceasefire, I think that everything will fly," he said, referring to drones and missiles.


There is no cease fire agreed to yet, the 30-day thing was rejected by Putin, and Zelensky agrees with an energy strike one in principle but it hasn't been agreed to in detail yet.

Ukraine did not unconditionally agree to whatever the USA agreed to.
Why spout obvious bullshit?
 
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DesRicardo

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The way Trump is carrying on, The US will need a military base in Ukraine which is the opposite of what Trump is preaching.

This will be weaker than the Israel-Palestine deal.
 
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mandrill

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Trump will be incessantly ridiculed until the killing of
Ukrainains finally stops. It is a price he has to pay for
stealing Ukraine's resources and possibly winning the Nobel
peace award. And after the war Trump will still be ridiculed
(though rightfully) for his peace by extortion scheme at
the expense of generations of Ukrainians.

Poking fun on Trump because he is trying to bring the Ukraine war
to an end is not cool. It is not like Putin will kill more Ukrainians
because Trump is licking his boots. I suggest Trump bashers
look to the clowns in the UK, Canada, France and the rest of the
EU to ridicule as well. These clowns will be the last ones to confront
Putin and Russian invading troops like they are true defenders of Ukraine.
When do you suggest Trump will win the Nobel Prize, Oily?

I didn't realize that there was a Nobel Prize for "Stupid Fat Fuck wearing Makeup". But hey! - What do I know?!?!?!?
 

nottyboi

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Why do you just make shit up?

"I understand that until we agree [with Russia], until there is a corresponding document on even a partial ceasefire, I think that everything will fly," he said, referring to drones and missiles.

There is no cease fire agreed to yet, the 30-day thing was rejected by Putin, and Zelensky agrees with an energy strike one in principle but it hasn't been agreed to in detail yet.

Ukraine did not unconditionally agree to whatever the USA agreed to.
Why spout obvious bullshit?

Yes they did, but clearly its reciprocal. If Russia agrees with the USA its on. So Russia said no way to the full ceasefire but agreed to the one on energy infrastructure. So its on.
 
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basketcase

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Putin told trump he would stop attacks on Ukraine's Energy then went on and continued his drone attacks on that infrastructure.
 
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oil&gas

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Ghawar
When do you suggest Trump will win the Nobel Prize, Oily?

I didn't realize that there was a Nobel Prize for "Stupid Fat Fuck wearing Makeup". But hey! - What do I know?!?!?!?

If it turns out Trump is nominated and win a Nobel Prize it just
means he will join the ranks of Henry Kissinger and Barack Obama.
Reputation of the Nobel committe would remain untarnished.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
Putin told trump he would stop attacks on Ukraine's Energy then went on and continued his drone attacks on that infrastructure.
Both sides have been exchanging air attacks.

Ukraine has fired drones 700 km into Russian territory. I doubt
the attack was entirely retaliatory. It could be that Ukraine
doesn't want to give in yet and Zelensky has no complete
control of his armies.
 

SchlongConery

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Jan 28, 2013
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Both nottski and the oily and gassy one often look like they are just making shit up out of thin air. However, they are all known Russian propaganda talking points.

They do it knowing full well that most people kknow they are full of shit ...but mayyyyyyyybeeee.

And that mayyyybbbeeeeeee is enough to sow discord and distrust of everything in western society. This is simply the Russian way. Well studied, thousands of books written on it and even published by Russian governments over the years.

And because of sowing FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) their plan worked and they have a Russian poodle operative in the Oval Office sowing discontent and uncertainty around the world. Truly, the Russki Mir!
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Why do you just make shit up?

"I understand that until we agree [with Russia], until there is a corresponding document on even a partial ceasefire, I think that everything will fly," he said, referring to drones and missiles.

There is no cease fire agreed to yet, the 30-day thing was rejected by Putin, and Zelensky agrees with an energy strike one in principle but it hasn't been agreed to in detail yet.

Ukraine did not unconditionally agree to whatever the USA agreed to.
Why spout obvious bullshit?
He normally makes sensible comments, but as soon as he has to defend something indefensible, he starts making stuff up. With conviction. lmao.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Yes they did, but clearly its reciprocal. If Russia agrees with the USA its on. So Russia said no way to the full ceasefire but agreed to the one on energy infrastructure. So its on.
So Ukraine agreed to an unconditional ceasefire, because someone on YouTube titled the video as such?
 
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