Unemployed Colin Kaepernick

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OnTheWayOut

Where is the proof that he is not good enough?
For me the proof is that he was benched by the Niners before any protest. He was not good enough to start for a crappy team but is too dumb to realize it. So he asked to be traded and be a starter elsewhere, there were no takers. He continues to hold out for a starting position yet no one thinks he has the leadership or decision making skills. Shove the stats, it's his mental makeup that makes him backup material. The book on him is long and not favorable. Then add in his protest baggage and wearing Castro tshirts etc and you have a pariah.

Like Keebler says, many here are stuck on the fake racial BS, while 80% of NFL players are black. The fact he sucks as a QB doesn't fit the agenda.

He lost the starting QB job to Blaine Gabbert in 2015, WTF does that tell you? And Gabbert was chosen starter over CK by 2 different head coaches. But yeah, ignore what NFL talent evaluators (coaches and GMS) think about him, you guys are all so much smarter than them.

Bottom line is that if he was good enough and had the brains to win games someone would have signed him. There is always a GM willing to take a chance if a player is good enough. CK is not good enough.
 
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Every talent evaluator is paid by a team....the 'team' says by pass him. He acts too black.

are you really saying Colin KAP is not better then the starting QB of the buffalo bills?
You must not play American football.

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there are a lot of professional never played sports commenting here....lol
Talent evaluators in football are the head coaches and GMs. 80% of the league's players are black. what are you smoking? Blackness doesn't stop any team from signing any player. You sound like a racist, you belong in the political section with fuji.

Yes, I am saying CK is not better than the Bills QB. The Bills seem to agree with that as they had the chance to sign him. He does not have the leadership skills or mental capacity to be a good decision maker, just ask the 2 head coaches who benched him. He was benched before any protest. Even Harbaugh gave up on him.

Of course I do not play American football, I used to but not on a professional level. Are you saying you have or still do?
 

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The proof is that nobody is signing him.
but you dont know why they arent signing him. lack of talent? maybe? but it could just as easily be black balling or fear of distraction.

I am just saying it is possible thst it is black balling because his stats are okay and teams have signed worse distra tions
 

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Talent evaluators in football are the head coaches and GMs. 80% of the league's players are black. what are you smoking? Blackness doesn't stop any team from signing any player. You sound like a racist, you belong in the political section with fuji.

Yes, I am saying CK is not better than the Bills QB. The Bills seem to agree with that as they had the chance to sign him. He does not have the leadership skills or mental capacity to be a good decision maker, just ask the 2 head coaches who benched him. He was benched before any protest. Even Harbaugh gave up on him.

Of course I do not play American football, I used to but not on a professional level. Are you saying you have or still do?
LOL, I'm not racist, but
I played College AMERICAN Basketball (scholarship) from high school....
my best friend was Mr.NYState Football in high school and he played at a major Division 1 football program.
He is now a strength and conditioning coach for a NFL team.

That team is below average, he told me Colin KAP is way better then what others believe.
These coaches are like domino's. They don't start anything new, but follow.

Coaches run the team, but if you ask 80% of those black players in the NFL if Colin KAP should be on a NFL team,
what do you think they will say?
 

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Colin KAP is better then the starting QB and 2nd string QB of the the BUFFALO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know some of the staff on that team who have no say on personel.....hehehehehe
 

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Funny enough after today's results the Niners might need him more than any other team
 
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LOL, I'm not racist, but
I played College AMERICAN Basketball (scholarship) from high school....
my best friend was Mr.NYState Football in high school and he played at a major Division 1 football program.
He is now a strength and conditioning coach for a NFL team.

That team is below average, he told me Colin KAP is way better then what others believe.
These coaches are like domino's. They don't start anything new, but follow.

Coaches run the team, but if you ask 80% of those black players in the NFL if Colin KAP should be on a NFL team,
what do you think they will say?
Are you saying the players are more capable of evaluating talent, leadership and decision making abilities than head coaches and GMs? You mean the entire structure of the NFL is upside down? LOL
 
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Funny enough after today's results the Niners might need him more than any other team
Yeah and they benched him twice and demoted him to backup, then were going to cut him before he opted out of his contract. He didn't fit their offensive scheme, not even as a backup. Which is another reason other teams do not want him, he has a limited skill set which requires a team to alter their offensive scheme to fit. But it's easier and more suited to today's political climate to blame racism, blacklisting, or whatever. Here's what the Niner's GM had to say about his leaving:

"Many believed that Kaepernick was going to be released anyway had he not voluntarily removed himself from the roster and, in an interview with Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, 49ers GM John Lynch confirmed as much.
"Yes, and we had that conversation with him. So I don't want to characterize it as he made a decision to leave here. We both sat down and under that current construct of his deal, it was a big number," Lynch said. "Kyle [Shanahan] had a vision for what he wanted to do, and one thing I think Kyle was very clear and I think Colin appreciated, is that Kyle has an idea of how he'd play with Colin Kaepernick. But he preferred to run the exact offense that he ran in Atlanta last year that was record-breaking in this league. And if you change it for the quarterback, you change it for everybody on that offense. So he had a great discussion that I think gave Colin clarity, so we moved on.
"Brian Hoyer was one of the guys we pursued. Once we pursued him, we didn't see Kap as a backup that would really fit in that scheme and we communicated that to him. So I think we've been very up front with it. But I think that is a fair characterization. Yes, he was not going to be here under the construct of his contract. We gave him the option: 'You can opt out, we can release you, whatever.' And he chose to opt out, but that was just a formality."
Lynch so far as a GM has been refreshingly honest. And he continued that trend when he addressed a report that stemmed from Peter King of TheMMQB.com saying some folks with the 49ers believed Kaepernick might prefer social activism to playing football; Lynch said he regrets that the "perception" of the 49ers "contributing" to that viewpoint of Kaepernick was out there.
In fact, Lynch said that Kaepernick struck him as someone who wants to play football "at the highest level" again.
"I feel like that's part of my job is controlling what comes out of this building, and to the extent that there was a perception that we were contributing to that Colin didn't want to play football, we wanted to put an end to that," Lynch said. "I've talked with Colin and I've told him that I felt bad that if indeed that is contributing to that thought. The one thing that I knew from sitting with Colin when we had our opportunity to sit down and he ultimately opted out, we had a great discussion that stuck out with me that this is a guy who is really interested in getting back in this league and playing at the highest level. And I've talked to him since, and that very much is the case.""

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ernick-if-he-hadnt-opted-out-of-his-contract/
 

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if you ask 80% of those black players in the NFL if Colin KAP should be on a NFL team,
what do you think they will say?
They would say that if they were owners/management and had to factor in all the parameters that would impact his value to the team (distractions, media, advertisers, fan opinion, talent) they may not have the same opinion as they do as players.
 

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Funny enough after today's results the Niners might need him more than any other team
It was Collins decision to quit the Niners. He opted out of their contract, they wouldn't take him back if he came crawling. Nobody wants a quitter especially a quitter QB.
 

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Are you saying the players are more capable of evaluating talent, leadership and decision making abilities than head coaches and GMs? You mean the entire structure of the NFL is upside down? LOL
....not 100% true, but i would let the players run it...
look at the NBA, the league is run by players!

ie...
the players on the LA Clippers made the Billionair owner sell the team because the players hated him....lol

The NFL is run by OLD school fools..hehehehe
 

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Micheal Bennett had a run in Vegas police and he sat during the anthem recently in protest.

His team mate Richard Sherman was asked about it.

His basic response is that the type of treatment MB got from police is something that happens to most black men.... he even shared a few stories.

It's for these reasons that I think most players would support CK if he was a team mate.

And let's be clear.... the people who have a problem with CK kneeling are missing the point of his message..... or are they okay with the way blacks are treated poorly by the police? A PR team could easily help clarify that point for misinformed fans.
 

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And let's be clear.... the people who have a problem with CK kneeling are missing the point of his message..... or are they okay with the way blacks are treated poorly by the police? A PR team could easily help clarify that point for misinformed fans.
CK`s problem is that his message is not clear.
If he has to explain the point of what he is doing, then perhaps what he is doing is not relevant to the issue.
It is like someone dissing a bait shop because some restaurant burned his fish.

Why doesn`t CK picket police stations?
That would be related, relevant, and crystal clear.
 
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....not 100% true, but i would let the players run it...
look at the NBA, the league is run by players!

ie...
the players on the LA Clippers made the Billionair owner sell the team because the players hated him....lol

The NFL is run by OLD school fools..hehehehe
Really? Seriously? You think the NBA is better off now than a few years ago? You are one of the very few who thinks so ..... the NBA ratings have declined by 45% in the last decade! Oh yeah, things are much better with players running the asylum.

http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=tmq/030610

"Thanks be to the football gods that the NFL does not become the NBA! There is a reason why the National Football League is America's No. 1 sport by every measure -- attendance, ratings, merchandising -- as the once-hot NBA continues its downward slip-slide in popularity. The reason is the decline of NBA play, which every season seems to become more simplified, less coordinated and more immature. Every year the NBA becomes less mature by about one tree-ring. During the Magic-Bird-MJ Golden Age, it was a sport of mental 30-year-olds, then 29-year-olds, then 28-year-olds and so on. Currently the NBA is a sport of mental 19-year-olds."
 
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Micheal Bennett had a run in Vegas police and he sat during the anthem recently in protest.

His team mate Richard Sherman was asked about it.

His basic response is that the type of treatment MB got from police is something that happens to most black men.... he even shared a few stories.

It's for these reasons that I think most players would support CK if he was a team mate.

And let's be clear.... the people who have a problem with CK kneeling are missing the point of his message..... or are they okay with the way blacks are treated poorly by the police? A PR team could easily help clarify that point for misinformed fans.
No, the people are not missing the message but they disagree with his method of promoting it. People would be more accepting of his cause if he was not disrespecting the entire nation that allows him to speak his mind.
 

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Really? Seriously? You think the NBA is better off now than a few years ago? You are one of the very few who thinks so ..... the NBA ratings have declined by 45% in the last decade! Oh yeah, things are much better with players running the asylum.

http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=tmq/030610

"Thanks be to the football gods that the NFL does not become the NBA! There is a reason why the National Football League is America's No. 1 sport by every measure -- attendance, ratings, merchandising -- as the once-hot NBA continues its downward slip-slide in popularity. The reason is the decline of NBA play, which every season seems to become more simplified, less coordinated and more immature. Every year the NBA becomes less mature by about one tree-ring. During the Magic-Bird-MJ Golden Age, it was a sport of mental 30-year-olds, then 29-year-olds, then 28-year-olds and so on. Currently the NBA is a sport of mental 19-year-olds."
The NBA has never been able to capture the magic of the Jordan era, and probably never will.
 

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CK`s problem is that his message is not clear.
If he has to explain the point of what he is doing, then perhaps what he is doing is not relevant to the issue.
It is like someone dissing a bait shop because some restaurant burned his fish.

Why doesn`t CK picket police stations?
That would be related, relevant, and crystal clear.
Jesse Owens raised fist had to be explained as well
 

frankcastle

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No, the people are not missing the message but they disagree with his method of promoting it. People would be more accepting of his cause if he was not disrespecting the entire nation that allows him to speak his mind.
That's people putting words into his actions.... kneeling for the anthem doesn't mean you hate the country
 
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