Unemployed Colin Kaepernick

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And what baggage/controversy/distractions are they bringing?

That is whole point and all you guys pointing strictly to his abilities are in denial of this significant factor.
CK is only a distraction IF OTHER PLAYERS have a problem with what he did. Many probably share his opinions. Have any players stated they couldn't play with him?

It is just an excuse the owners are using.

Slurp mentioned talent scouts..... what they think doesnt' matter if owners have made up their mind.

CK was middle of the pack QB rating on a shit team. Which mean he could start for quite a few of the bottom tier teams who don't have a brady et al.
 

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CK is only a distraction IF OTHER PLAYERS have a problem with what he did. Many probably share his opinions. Have any players stated they couldn't play with him?

It is just an excuse the owners are using.
So you think that if some team signs him there will not be a bunch of reporters for weeks on end posing questions to management and teammates and CK as far as a blackball and opinions and on and on and on. That is a distraction regardless of what THE OTHER PLAYERS think. They will be badgered. And then, depending on team results questioning his value, what effect he has etc. etc. It will be a distraction.
 

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So you think that if some team signs him there will not be a bunch of reporters for weeks on end posing questions to management and teammates and CK as far as a blackball and opinions and on and on and on. That is a distraction regardless of what THE OTHER PLAYERS think. They will be badgered. And then, depending on team results questioning his value, what effect he has etc. etc. It will be a distraction.
Are you saying a highly trained athlete will be rattled by press asking questions about a team mate to the point of affecting their performance?

Most players and teams allow some access and time but it is limited. So it's not like it will keep them from practicing or relaxing.

Sign the guy and have a press conference, tweet etc to explain that he doesn't hate the flag and the country.... he just has a problem with how blacks are treated in the US.

If players have any problems with press watch a few marshawn lynch clips on how to avoid questions.

The concept of distraction..... is just a scapegoat that gets hauled out when things go badly and front office wants to save their own necks.
 

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Tim Tebow was also not pursued by teams after a while because of all the circus he brought with him every day. You could argue maybe he wasn't good enough to be an NFL quarterback though. I guess we'll never know
 

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Tim Tebow was also not pursued by teams after a while because of all the circus he brought with him every day.
I know I've used "distraction" and "baggage" that CK would bring with him and have been challenged. Circus is a great term to use for this situation.
 

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Tim Tebow was also not pursued by teams after a while because of all the circus he brought with him every day. You could argue maybe he wasn't good enough to be an NFL quarterback though. I guess we'll never know


No, Tim Tebow was not pursued by teams cause he sucked.
 

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You are taking what the first responders are doing out of context. They are refusing to carry the flag at the season opener BECAUSE of the players who they feel disrespected the flag and anthem by kneeling. In effect they are protesting the protesters. They have stated they cannot hold the flag while players are disrespecting it.

Your opinion that CK is a 1st string QB flies in the face of the teams he has played for and the teams he hopes to play for. Not one NFL talent evaluator agrees with you, his ship has sailed.

Every talent evaluator is paid by a team....the 'team' says by pass him. He acts too black.

are you really saying Colin KAP is not better then the starting QB of the buffalo bills?
You must not play American football.

p.s.
there are a lot of professional never played sports commenting here....lol
 

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CK is not owed a job nor is anybody owed an explanation of why he is not offered a job.
The reasons may vary from his anthem stunt to his lack of talent.
Even if it was because an owner didn`t like the look of his hair, so what?

If one has a problem with the realities of team sports, get into golf or tennis.
 

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Because people want to be outraged and propagate their outrage and look for reasons to be outraged. This thread just goes around in circles. People who believe the sole reason he isn't playing is because of racism will never accept that he's not good enough to justify the distraction. So around and around we go.

At this point I find it comical and if I was an owner I'd just refuse to hire him as a big FUCK YOU to all the social activists out there. His not being hired isn't going to affect TV ratings or attendance numbers.

But I will say, as an afterthought, I do think he'll eventually be hired. Someone will get desperate enough that they will be willing to put up with the distraction and take a shot on him. But it won't be until someone is truly desperate.
 

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Because people want to be outraged and propagate their outrage and look for reasons to be outraged. This thread just goes around in circles. People who believe the sole reason he isn't playing is because of racism will never accept that he's not good enough to justify the distraction. So around and around we go.

At this point I find it comical and if I was an owner I'd just refuse to hire him as a big FUCK YOU to all the social activists out there. His not being hired isn't going to affect TV ratings or attendance numbers.

But I will say, as an afterthought, I do think he'll eventually be hired. Someone will get desperate enough that they will be willing to put up with the distraction and take a shot on him. But it won't be until someone is truly desperate.
Where is the proof that he is not good enough?

His QB rating was literally middle of the pack for all starting QBs last year. That is a far better measure of his quality than win loss record because so much goes into wins and losses other than QB ability..... e.g. shitty recievers and bad defense and crap running back or terrible line men.... I'm not saying those are the 49ers problems just factors that would seriously bias win loss record and not reflect the QB quality properly.

Tim Tebow wasn't that bad. He probably could have played but too many years have passed.
 

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And around and around you go, trying to bring it back to the sad 'ol argument that people are saying he's not a good QB.

Again (again!), that's not the argument. The argument is that he's not good enough to overcome the distraction he brings with him.

Bill Cower just called CK out on a clip on Deadspin and he's bang on.
 

frankcastle

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And around and around you go, trying to bring it back to the sad 'ol argument that people are saying he's not a good QB.

Again (again!), that's not the argument. The argument is that he's not good enough to overcome the distraction he brings with him.

Bill Cower just called CK out on a clip on Deadspin and he's bang on.
Where's the proof that he would be a distraction?
 

frankcastle

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The distraction angle is a red herring.

If he's a middle of the road QB which his stats suggest. And he achieved that rating with a mediocre team. Then I'd suggest that he'd be a potential fit on half the teams feature QBs with worse rating than him.
 

frankcastle

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And around and around you go, trying to bring it back to the sad 'ol argument that people are saying he's not a good QB.

Again (again!), that's not the argument. The argument is that he's not good enough to overcome the distraction he brings with him.

Bill Cower just called CK out on a clip on Deadspin and he's bang on.
Bill Cowher calls out CK and says the guy lacks commitment and heart and that's why two teams passed on him. That's BC's assumption he doesn't have proof of that. He just assumes that's why the two coaches passed on him.
 

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BC also accuses CK of not being willing to take performance clauses instead of a max contract. Maybe CK will but right now I think he would like max money and he doesn't want to show signs of weakness. If he starts offering a smaller contract he will get even further lowballed.

As others have stated I think CK will be on a team by the end of this season and he would be smart to wait it out rather than dropping his price right now.

There are plenty of guys who have done awful things and received decent contracts so he'd be smart to hold his position.

BC finishes by saying that maybe CK feels the platform is more important than playing in the NFL again it's just BC talking shit.

BC is entitled to his opinion but it's certainly not proof.
 
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