Unemployed Colin Kaepernick

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Hmmm.... Those "patriotic" fans may talk a good game about tearing up their tickets. But is any self respecting heartland redneck really going to miss the NFL season?

The Bills or Dolphins or any other QB-less sadsack outfit will lose WAY more fans going 2-14 than they would in signing CK. This is on the owners.
You sure about that? The Bills have not made the playoffs since the '90s ffs but they still sell out most of their games.
 

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Aaron Rogers just made a statement supporting CK, stating that he is being blackballed and saying that Black players are justified in making race and equality an issue
He is being blacklisted, at least thats my suspicion.

If CK is so concerned with African-American rights, he should run for office and try to enact change through that.
But either way, make up your mind, do you wanna be an NFL QB or do you wanna be a politician/civil rights leader, because IMO you cant have both
 

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If CK is so concerned with African-American rights, he should run for office and try to enact change through that.
But either way, make up your mind, do you wanna be an NFL QB or do you wanna be a politician/civil rights leader, because IMO you cant have both
He can be an activist in many ways and still play football.

But one way he cannot do it is by dissing the flag and the anthem. That is being un-American/unpatriotic. Being an activist does not mean one has to be un-American as well. He can speak, he can march, he can donate to causes and make appearances. But he cannot disrespect the flag and the anthem. That was his mistake.
 

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He can be an activist in many ways and still play football.

But one way he cannot do it is by dissing the flag and the anthem. That is being un-American/unpatriotic. Being an activist does not mean one has to be un-American as well. He can speak, he can march, he can donate to causes and make appearances. But he cannot disrespect the flag and the anthem. That was his mistake.
Shack hit the nail on the head here. This isn't about him being half black and standing up for human rights, it's about the fact he's pissing off people by dissing the American Flag, which stands for many things, that many Americans take quite seriously and are very proud off.
 

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He is being blacklisted, at least thats my suspicion.

If CK is so concerned with African-American rights, he should run for office and try to enact change through that.
But either way, make up your mind, do you wanna be an NFL QB or do you wanna be a politician/civil rights leader, because IMO you cant have both
Completely unfair.... everyone has a right to an opinion. I applaude him for not being "safe"
 

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Shack hit the nail on the head here. This isn't about him being half black and standing up for human rights, it's about the fact he's pissing off people by dissing the American Flag, which stands for many things, that many Americans take quite seriously and are very proud off.
One of those things is "freedom of speech to piss people off". And therein lies the conundrum.

And in the fact that most Americans place far too much value in their flag and far too little in listening to a dissenting voice whether they agree with it or not.
 

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One of those things is "freedom of speech to piss people off". And therein lies the conundrum.

And in the fact that most Americans place far too much value in their flag and far too little in listening to a dissenting voice whether they agree with it or not.
To very many Americans (who are sincerely patriotic and have fought for their country), using free speech to disrespect the flag is tantamount to using free speech to yell FIRE in a movie theatre.

Not everyone will agree with this, but it is not hard to understand their point of view and CK might have considered respecting their feelings on this matter. As I said earlier, there are other ways he could have expressed his feelings and respected the feelings of other Americans at the same time. It was a poor choice on his part. Not necessarily wrong, but definitely not wise.
 

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To very many Americans (who are sincerely patriotic and have fought for their country), using free speech to disrespect the flag is tantamount to using free speech to yell FIRE in a movie theatre.

Not everyone will agree with this, but it is not hard to understand their point of view and CK might have considered respecting their feelings on this matter. As I said earlier, there are other ways he could have expressed his feelings and respected the feelings of other Americans at the same time. It was a poor choice on his part. Not necessarily wrong, but definitely not wise.
I question how many people would really stop watching the NFL due to Colin's actions.

Football is religion in the US.... high school coaches are paid positions, college is big business and NFL is massive (just look at Super Bowl ad time costs).

Hard drug users, steroid users, animal abusers, wife/child abusers, gun charges, DUIs, bribe takers has not slowed down the industry.

Anyone here watch "second chance U" on Netflix..... it is a D2 school that is known for taking D1 guys who have gotten into trouble.

It is well documented that teams will take "risks" on players who would be "distractions"

Heck Marshawn Lynch took a knee while in a Raiders uniform..... when asked about it he just dodged the question. And he has sat out for at least a season and not getting younger. In my opinion a guy like that is way worse than CK..... checkered past, thuggish looks and terse interviews..... I personally like him but if the flag wavers have a problem with CK surely ML would be equally objectionable.
 

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I question how many people would really stop watching the NFL due to Colin's actions.

Football is religion in the US.... high school coaches are paid positions, college is big business and NFL is massive (just look at Super Bowl ad time costs).

Hard drug users, steroid users, animal abusers, wife/child abusers, gun charges, DUIs, bribe takers has not slowed down the industry.

Anyone here watch "second chance U" on Netflix..... it is a D2 school that is known for taking D1 guys who have gotten into trouble.

It is well documented that teams will take "risks" on players who would be "distractions"

Heck Marshawn Lynch took a knee while in a Raiders uniform..... when asked about it he just dodged the question. And he has sat out for at least a season and not getting younger. In my opinion a guy like that is way worse than CK..... checkered past, thuggish looks and terse interviews..... I personally like him but if the flag wavers have a problem with CK surely ML would be equally objectionable.
I can't really dispute anything you say here.

However, it is evident that the people that write the cheques (and by inference, the advertisers) do not think the same way (so far). IMO, as business people their only concern is the bottom line, not the social values. If a social pariah can still improve the bottom line, they will sign him.
 

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You sure about that? The Bills have not made the playoffs since the '90s ffs but they still sell out most of their games.
No, they don't.

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The above are the percentage of capacity the Bills played to over the past 7 seasons.
Not one year is close to 100.00%
 

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No, they don't.

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The above are the percentage of capacity the Bills played to over the past 7 seasons.
Not one year is close to 100.00%
10 minutes to Wapner Georgie?

Ok ok not a sellout but very few of their games are blacked out locally which means they often pass the blackout threshold despite fielding a shitty team and their fans having to endure some less than ideal weather conditions

Fact Checker of a sports forum on a pooner's board. Must look impressive on your resume or a business card
 

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He can be an activist in many ways and still play football.

But one way he cannot do it is by dissing the flag and the anthem. That is being un-American/unpatriotic. Being an activist does not mean one has to be un-American as well. He can speak, he can march, he can donate to causes and make appearances. But he cannot disrespect the flag and the anthem. That was his mistake.
I think you can even do that - if you actually have leadership skills and the personality to get people's respect even when they disagree with you. QB is so much more than just a guy with an arm.
 

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NFL like all leagues is about money. Owners think that the money they'll lose from "patriotic" fans is more than the money Kapernick will generate based on his ability. If any teams though he had superbowl winning talent then they'd sign him in a heartbeat.


This sums it up perfectly right here.
 

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Its crazy how Colin is not yet signed?
This is insane. As a past athlete myself (College Basketball scholarship in the USA), Colin can play!

What is the right way to protest?

I'm not a BLACK person, but this guy Colin needs to be on a NFL team!!!!!!

The Buffalo BILLS are now down to 1 QB (rookie pick), the other two got injured.
Colin is 10000x better then that rookie bum. He hardly knows NFL playbook.

They need more BLACK head coaches in the NFL....

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There's nothing crazy about it all. What your not realizing, is the guy is fringe NFL QB now. Every defensive coordinator in league has him figure out. The only reason this is such a big story is because he was a good QB. Like any other sport, if your not a star, and your bringing major baggage to the team, you'll soon find yourself replaced by another fringe player.
 

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There's nothing crazy about it all. What your not realizing, is the guy is fringe NFL QB now. Every defensive coordinator in league has him figure out. The only reason this is such a big story is because he was a good QB. Like any other sport, if your not a star, and your bringing major baggage to the team, you'll soon find yourself replaced by another fringe player.
Colin was a scrambling QB..... to say DCs figured him out is like saying DCs failed to figure out Vick, RG3 etc.

I think it is more accurate to say they tried to use him as a pocket passer instead of doing what he does best. Unlike say Russell in Seattle.

His QB rating was literally middle of the pack last year. If he can't find a job then that means there's another 14 guys who should be in the same boat but they aren't.

Brock Osweiller just got canned. I'd say CK is better than him. CK could probably replace the pylon in Buffalo.
 

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His QB rating was literally middle of the pack last year. If he can't find a job then that means there's another 14 guys who should be in the same boat but they aren't.
And what baggage/controversy/distractions are they bringing?

That is whole point and all you guys pointing strictly to his abilities are in denial of this significant factor.
 
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