TRUMP WINS

kittykellykat

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Trump's only criteria to qualify for these posts is that the people he appoints to these posts are loyal to him.
Therefore you will see that anyone he appoints to these posts will generally either be dumb or cruel.
It is those kind of people that will ally themselves with someone like Trump.
I don’t think it’s good reasoning to say “loyal to Trump, therefore must be dumb or cruel”

You’re basically saying,

One’s loyalties entails a transference of traits to oneself from the person receiving loyalty. E.g. A is loyal B, B is dumb, so by extension A is dumb too.

Appointments to government should not be chosen by considering loyalties


Why would either of those two statements be true or obvious? They’re super contentious. Maybe you can shore them up more.

I can see reasons why he chose these people tbh, it’s not hard to fathom

…but ya they are definitely provocative choices lmao, that’s what is just hilarious
 
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I don’t think it’s good reasoning to say “loyal to Trump, therefore must be dumb or cruel”

You’re basically saying,

One’s loyalties entails a transference of traits to oneself from the person receiving loyalty. E.g. A is loyal B, B is dumb, so by extension A is dumb too.

Appointments to government should not be chosen by considering loyalties


Why would either of those two statements be true or obvious? They’re super contentious. Maybe you can shore them up more.

I can see reasons why he chose these people tbh, it’s not hard to fathom

…but ya they are definitely provocative choices lmao, that’s what is just hilarious
So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?
Other than being a member of the leopard eating faces party, of course.

You aren't excited about reparations, are you?

 
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kittykellykat

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“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

That’s like asking me why I still think Plato is a good philosopher even though he fucked little boys in the ass.

And then accusing me of being okay with little boys being fucked in the ass.
 
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“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

That’s like asking me why I still think Plato is a good philosopher even though he fucked little boys in the ass.
You mean you think that the rules (not laws) say its just as ok to put convicts and sex offenders in charge as it was for ancient Greeks to be gay or pedophiles?
Or do you mean that just because someone is a rapist and fraud artist doesn't mean that he also can't be as smart as he declares he is?

Or perhaps you'd like to clarify instead of me guessing.

 

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didn’t seem personal to me, just seemed like you were providing a bit of a paradigm reframing, but ya, those never feel welcome lmao.

also reminds me of some stuff I read about geopolitical multipolarity (not so mainstream either, it was some stuff from Dugin’s tg channel lol)
Its seen as a conspiracy theory to those unwilling to see alternative POV.

I was told the same thing when I said Covid was a $camdemic.

Most Asians who grow up here while still being able to speak their mother tongue hold a unique perspective where we see the good and bad for both western and Asian culture. Obviously it will be dismissed because of the relentless western-centric POV.

When people make fun of Elon it amuses me considering how it would be impossible for a person of low IQ to get to where he is today.

As they say, easier to fool someone than convince them theyve been fooled. Also, never underestimate stupidity in numbers.
 
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Leimonis

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“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

That’s like asking me why I still think Plato is a good philosopher even though he fucked little boys in the ass.

And then accusing me of being okay with little boys being fucked in the ass.
Would you be okay with Plato becoming a philosophy professor in your local high school?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I don’t think it’s good reasoning to say “loyal to Trump, therefore must be dumb or cruel”

You’re basically saying,

One’s loyalties entails a transference of traits to oneself from the person receiving loyalty. E.g. A is loyal B, B is dumb, so by extension A is dumb too.

Appointments to government should not be chosen by considering loyalties


Why would either of those two statements be true or obvious? They’re super contentious. Maybe you can shore them up more.

I can see reasons why he chose these people tbh, it’s not hard to fathom

…but ya they are definitely provocative choices lmao, that’s what is just hilarious
Dumb or cruel. Or perhaps both. Maybe even smart and cruel lol.
He picked them so he does not have to face the issues he did in his first term.
He wants loyalists everywhere that will do his bidding, be yes men so he can behave like a dictator.
Essentially he wants to undermine the checks and balances that exist and greatly increase the powers of the office of the presidency.
This is a dangerous slippery slope.
Fascism is a process. This is how it starts.
So what would be the character of the person who is willing to be loyal to Trump and his policies (many of which I consider to be cruel and/or dumb)?
Dumb or cruel.
But having said that, whether or not these picks will actually be effective in executing their nefarious agenda is TBC.
 
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Frankfooter

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Dumb or cruel. One of the two.
He picked them so he does not face the issues he did in his first term.
He wants loyalists everywhere that will do his bidding so he can behave like a dictator.
Essentially he wants to undermine the checks and balances that exist and greatly increase the powers of the office of the presidency.
This is a dangerous slippery slope.
Fascism is a process. This is how it starts.
There is the possibility that trump actually thinks RFK jr and his brain worm's theory that diseases aren't caused by germs is actually brilliant and he thinks it will fix the US health care system. That's more likely than the self declared germaphobe just wants all americans to get sick.

Lets see if RFK jr can make america's health care system great again, again.

 

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“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

That’s like asking me why I still think Plato is a good philosopher even though he fucked little boys in the ass.

And then accusing me of being okay with little boys being fucked in the ass.
that's one type of rebuttal with unpleasant imaging

this straightforward
“So why would someone declare loyalty to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist?”

rebuttal:
because the majority of the electorate did not buy into the ''convicted felon and adjudicated rapist'' view and voted for him

dead simple for someone to declare loyalty when they have the electorate with the same view

future events may make the electorate re-evaluate / change their loyalty just as an appointee may decide his / her loyalty was misplaced

I am pretty sure JWR, & Bill Morneau are kicking themselves for their initial loyalty to Justin Trudeau as are 20 odd liberal MPs who are concerned they will have a forced career change
 
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There is the possibility that trump actually thinks RFK jr and his brain worm's theory that diseases aren't caused by germs is actually brilliant and he thinks it will fix the US health care system. That's more likely than the self declared germaphobe just wants all americans to get sick.

Lets see if RFK jr can make america's health care system great again, again.

That is why am saying that they either have to be dumb - like Betsy Devos if you remember lol. Or Matt Gaetz lol.
Or cruel - like Stephen Miller, Thomas Homan etc.,
Or smart and cruel - like Elon Musk.
 

Leimonis

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REE you’re making the same error
do I? you seem to be saying that a criminal will not be a criminal when he is given power that would allow him to commit even more crimes and not bear responsibility for crimes past or future. I hope you are right 🤷‍♀️
 
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