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Shaq is making probably one the most puerile "whatabout" cases one can make. The entire why is Trump concerned about this when he could be working on X is just a diversion from the point at hand.
It isn't whataboutism or a diversion.
It is objectively the truth that this non-issue is far less important than things like healthcare.
I am directly stating that the trans athlete in sports, is a non-issue for which an Executive Order is not necessary even if there is bi-partisan support on principle.
 
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You should allow yourself some room to retreat from this issue. This is not a Selma March moment.
I think you should allow yourself some room to retreat from responding to criticism of the Trump administration's policies as you seem very frustrated, that such criticism is being levied.
I am simply stating that this is a non-issue for which an EO is unnecessary when there are other more important issues to tackle.
I am also stating that these types of EOs will not be successful in their end goal.
 

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It isn't whataboutism or a diversion.
It is objectively the truth that this non-issue is far less important than things like healthcare.
One has nothing to do with the other.
 

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I think you should allow yourself some room to retreat from responding to criticism of the Trump administration's policies as you seem very frustrated, that such criticism is being levied.
One of the primary symptoms of tDS that I listed was an inability to tolerate any criticism of trump and his policies.

These guys keep showing how valid my list is.
 
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If you believe that one of the purposes of Government is to wage culture war, then it is a Federal issue, though.
Which Trump supporters seem to think.
I dont think the government should take sides in a culture war against some of their own citizens.
Defeats the purpose of an elected government that is meant to be for all in the first place.
 

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15 years ago they'd say "Next you'd be supporting bestiality" when talking about gay and lesbian people.
15 years ago?......Who was saying that 15 years ago?

Maybe wherever you were living but not in Canada...Hmmm....I'll speculate you're not from here.
 
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The leftists still don't get it.

They're trying to force people to lie about basic sexuality.

A man can never become a woman and vice versa. Telling people that they must lie and pretend that these things are possible is not something the majority will ever get behind.
 

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Have to be honest..I'm against forced pronouns , biological males competing in women's sports and sexualizing kids with trans ideology, but maybe we should address people the way they want to be addressed out of common courtesy.

Just my 2 cents
Only if it remains in the realm of the proper use of language.

If a guy wants to be called a girl, no problem.

However, he must understand that if he walks, talks, and looks like a man, he'll have to relentlessly correct people, not because they're bad people, but because humans evolved to automatically identify human males and females.

If he wants to be called "they/them", or zee/zir or any other nonsensical derivative, it's not going to happen. It serves no purpose than to cause confusion in basic communication, and make basic communication a needlessly difficult exercise for someone's ego.
 
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The John Money narrative is less true than saying the MAGA movement was directly influenced by Hitler and Nazism.

15 years ago they'd say "Next you'd be supporting bestiality" when talking about gay and lesbian people.
No, first it was "next you'll be supporting pedos" followed by "next you'll be supporting bestiality".

We're at the "supporting pedos" stage now (with language being used to nullify how egregious paedophilia is... "minor attracted people"), with the convoluted toxic gender ideology thrown on top of it all, and currently taking centre stage.

The slope is slippery but it stops here.
 
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No, first it was "next you'll be supporting pedos" followed by "next you'll be supporting bestiality".

We're at the "supporting pedos" part now (with language being used to nullify how egregious paedophilia is... "minor attracted people"), with the convoluted toxic gender ideology thrown on top of it all, and currently taking centre stage.

The slope is slippery but it stops here.
I dont think you are following along.
Your post also sounds like a mess of words strung together but they dont actually make any sense.
To clarify:
It was Oracle who said "I'd be supporting pedos" in response to my support for trans people. (Let us ignore his error of confusing abnormal sexual proclivities with normal gender identity).
I responded saying these kinds of strawmen were used back in the day to oppose gay rights.
Eventually lesbian, bisexual and gay people have come to be more or less normalized today.
Similarly trans people also will in a few years.
They already have legal protections in Canada and that is not going anywhere.
The US generally being a more backward country follows Canada on these social issues.
So it will take them some time to get there but they will.
These are civil rights issues.
As long as people exist, gender identities will exist
The only option in the long term is to just accept it.
Don't worry. You'll get there too.
 
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