Have to be honest..I'm against forced pronouns , biological males competing in women's sports and sexualizing kids with trans ideology, but maybe we should address people the way they want to be addressed out of common courtesy.
Just my 2 cents
Trump Bans Transgender Athletes from Women's Sports
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The leftists still don't get it.
They're trying to force people to lie about basic sexuality.
A man can never become a woman and vice versa. Telling people that they must lie and pretend that these things are possible is not something the majority will ever get behind.
They're trying to force people to lie about basic sexuality.
A man can never become a woman and vice versa. Telling people that they must lie and pretend that these things are possible is not something the majority will ever get behind.
Only if it remains in the realm of the proper use of language.
If a guy wants to be called a girl, no problem.
However, he must understand that if he walks, talks, and looks like a man, he'll have to relentlessly correct people, not because they're bad people, but because humans evolved to automatically identify human males and females.
If he wants to be called "they/them", or zee/zir or any other nonsensical derivative, it's not going to happen. It serves no purpose than to cause confusion in basic communication, and make basic communication a needlessly difficult exercise for someone's ego.
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The anti-gay discourse especially online used to use strawmen like that.
You are currently using such a strawman as I pointed out.
No, first it was "next you'll be supporting pedos" followed by "next you'll be supporting bestiality".
We're at the "supporting pedos" stage now (with language being used to nullify how egregious paedophilia is... "minor attracted people"), with the convoluted toxic gender ideology thrown on top of it all, and currently taking centre stage.
The slope is slippery but it stops here.
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I dont think you are following along.
Your post also sounds like a mess of words strung together but they dont actually make any sense.
To clarify:
It was Oracle who said "I'd be supporting pedos" in response to my support for trans people. (Let us ignore his error of confusing abnormal sexual proclivities with normal gender identity).
I responded saying these kinds of strawmen were used back in the day to oppose gay rights.
Eventually lesbian, bisexual and gay people have come to be more or less normalized today.
Similarly trans people also will in a few years.
They already have legal protections in Canada and that is not going anywhere.
The US generally being a more backward country follows Canada on these social issues.
So it will take them some time to get there but they will.
These are civil rights issues.
As long as people exist, gender identities will exist
The only option in the long term is to just accept it.
Don't worry. You'll get there too.
They're already accepted. You're fighting a different battle.
The history of cultural change shows a very active role for the Federal govt.
If you support the action, it's a cultural transformation. If you don't, you call it a culture war.
Which is why the right has been calling cultural transformation they don't like culture war for decades now.
Every advancement in human civilization has been the fought tooth and nail by the conservatives. I myself wonder why they bother spending so much energy. I think they know as well as the rest of us, that progress will happen eventually.
The pot calls the kettle black.
Hitler came to power by uniting a disparate group of political factions by giving them a common enemy to blame for their suffering. Criticism of the Nazi ideology was censored and was punishable in courts of law. Most of the German people did not subscribe to the Nazi philosophy, but they gave tacit obedience because that kept the target off their backs. The state controlled media would not tolerate opposing opinions. He encouraged the population to support Nazism by appealing to the emotions of the masses, as opposed to logic and reason.
He further consolidated his position by indoctrinating young Germans through propaganda in the education system, when they were too young to make critical decisions on their own, and when they were at an age where they believed everything they were told by those in positions of authority.
The 'progressive' Left has been using these same tactics for decades. Instead of Jews, they espouse that all of society's ills can be blamed on wealthy White males. The rest is just window dressing.
While the number of trans women athletes participating in organized sports is small, opposition to their inclusion is not.
In the 2024 US Presidential election, 63.9% of those eligible to vote were sufficiently interested to exercise their privilege, 2.7 % less than in 2020. Harris received 48.3% of the popular vote, or 30.86% of eligible voters. Trump's popular vote plurality is small, but the 'don't give a shit about politics' demographic is the majority.
What HAS changed in recent years is the sources from which young people receive media. Most of them don't watch network television anymore, and those who do seldom watch TV news. Printed newspapers are dying, as are printed magazines. Older people still receive news from these sources, but they are generally immune to having their decisions be influenced by media or advertising.
No they haven't.
This is just the dishonest oversimplification and white identity victimhood politics of MAGA.
The response to something needs to be proportional to the magnitude of an issue.
Not based on its popularity.
Not true.
Facebook, the largest social media platform's demographic actually skews older.
Yes it is true most dont watch TV news these days, but it is true that most are affected by social media sound bites and clickbait.
Something the MAGA right actively and successfully pushes.
Men in women's sport isn't progress by any definition of progress.
It's irrational, immoral, misogynist, and dangerous.
The culture wars have been won. When you give everyone everything they need, they begin to invent problems that don't exist to give themselves meaning, a sense of validation, a belief of relevance, and used to gain power, & grift to make money.
There are already categories for trans people in sport. A trans women participates in the men's league because he's a biological male. Nothing new under the sun needs to be created for trans in sport.
Trans in women's sport isn't a culture war. It's a fringe concept. It only exists because of radicals at the helm of legacy media and government bureaucracies funded by institutions like USAid.
Have you already forgotten about the girlyman in charge that refers to humanity as 'peoplekind'? We have an obtuse weirdo as our Prime Minister. These are the people pushing the insanity. It's wild.
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I agree that this particular case is irrational, immoral, misogynist, and dangerous. But in general, my thesis is still valid.
My point being the Federal govt. is often at the forefront of culture issues. The semantics of what is called was not key.
I'm guessing you think some people believe this issue was part of a greater culture war because that is the language you hear from Fox News and conservative media. They have to push headlines.
I don't know any conservatives who use the phrase culture war. As far as transgender athletes being prohibited from competing in women sports, there is a broad coalition is support of the prohibition. Most Americans just look at an issue and evaluate. There's no big culture war other than in the mouths of a few politicians, media commentators and people on the fringes.
if an individual chooses to address people the way they want to be addressed out of common courtesy, that is not a problem
Just do not tell me I have to do it
as mentioned
the same (ex misogynist) can be said for:
the expansion of the state
wealth redistribution
equality of outcomes - you missed the mark - equality of opportunity is an achievable goal
money printing
irresponsible govt spending
irresponsible govt borrowing - your lot can not seem to understand simple math- this will end very badly
nationalization of industries
biased media - with tax dollars in Canada - WTF ??? - scary as hell
over regulation
open borders- this is just plain ridiculous
being soft on crime
net zero - this went off the chart on the stupid meter. it should have died at the back of the envelope stage. but No
re-writing history
bastardizing science
radicalizing university and college campuses
and prioritizing ideology over common sense
none of these failures can be described as progress
I myself wonder why "progressives" bother spending so much energy on failures
it is rather annoying and very concerning
we tried the loonie left experiment for 9 years in Canada and the results are undeniable - failure
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