What ? Read my post carefully ... I was talking about the Oilers organization .
Toronto Maple Leafs 2013/14 Season
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LA got him because they had a goalie Toronto wanted for him. Neither the Oilers nor Flames could offer a goalie that was worth taking.
I think Scrivens is a decent back up to tender like Quick, Don't see him as number 1.
Josh Harding was in the same position as Scrivens ... Ben Bishop also had the label of backup before being given the wheel to the Lighting ... The more Scrivens keeps playing at the level he is at the more the back up label will be taken off ...
All I said is congrats to Schrivens and it's too bad the Oilers scouting staff didn't see what LA and the Leafs saw ... I was giving kudos to the Kings ...
You were clearly also talking about LA and how Scrivens' acquisition shows why they are such a good organization.
I said my post was a reflection of two organization ( Kings and Oilers ) ... Leafs were " not " one of those two ... Although you in your constant attack mode would only see what you want to see ... " Wow " positing " LA is a great organization and Oilers not " actually
caused a debate ...
I'm not attacking, just trying to understand. Sorry you are feeling so defensive.
I agree Kings are a good organization/team and Oilers suck. That is not in question and is irrelevant to my question.
I don't understand how acquiring a run of the mill goalie like Scrivens proves how great of an organization they are. That is what I am trying to find out and what you have not explained. IMO, they could probably use any one of two dozen backup goalies and still be miles ahead of the Oilers. He just happened to be the backup the Leafs had that would go back the other way when they traded Bernier.
It is the timing of your posts.
Why is it in this Leaf thread then ?
It seems to be a backhanded shot at the Leafs.
Also the Oil did not want to part with any of their young stars, like a center, another position the Leafs need to address.
Agree with Shack and Dawgger. Also the Leafs made a trade and got what their think may be their number one goalie for the next 10 years. As previously pointed out, the other organizations did not have(to give) what the Leafs wanted in return.
Thank you Mr Moderator ... Wow you agree with Shack and Dawgger .. So unusual of you .
OK, fine.
Now about your timing and the placement of your post here in a Leaf thread when apparently it has nothing to do with the Leafs.
Not unusual at all. Craig and I agree on many things and rarely get into anything nasty.
The Leafs look big down the middle. The new centers are all bigger than the injured and suspended Leafs centers.
This Holland kid, similar to that other 1st round center they traded away Colborune, except Holland looks more like a play maker where Colbourne more of a grinder.
Putting Holland between Kessel and Van Reimsdyke makes it easier for him. Don't get caught, and just give the puck to your wingers.
That line of Orr, Smithson, McCleran is the biggest Leafs line I have ever seen.
Nice goal by Clarkson. That's a goal scorer type of goal. Quick release, top corner. The goalie probably did not have a chance on that one.
Out shot again. I think so. Did not check. Probably out shot again. Good goal tending again.
The Leafs again beat another team below them in the standings and below .500. So again, we wait to see how good this Leafs team is, can it make the jump to being elitte?
Got to wait until Bolland comes back.
I think the biggest difference in tonight's game, is the Leafs centers played a north south game. Nothing fancy, just patrol the middle up and down. Worked tonight, two wins in this home stand.
This Holland kid, similar to that other 1st round center they traded away Colborune, except Holland looks more like a play maker where Colbourne more of a grinder.
Putting Holland between Kessel and Van Reimsdyke makes it easier for him. Don't get caught, and just give the puck to your wingers.
That line of Orr, Smithson, McCleran is the biggest Leafs line I have ever seen.
Nice goal by Clarkson. That's a goal scorer type of goal. Quick release, top corner. The goalie probably did not have a chance on that one.
Out shot again. I think so. Did not check. Probably out shot again. Good goal tending again.
The Leafs again beat another team below them in the standings and below .500. So again, we wait to see how good this Leafs team is, can it make the jump to being elitte?
Got to wait until Bolland comes back.
I think the biggest difference in tonight's game, is the Leafs centers played a north south game. Nothing fancy, just patrol the middle up and down. Worked tonight, two wins in this home stand.
Great Read ... Some Leaf questions from last season .
http://kylethereporter.com/2013/11/12/dallas-eakins-one-on-one-part-1/
Dallas Eakins One-on-One: Part 1
http://kylethereporter.com/2013/11/12/dallas-eakins-one-on-one-part-1/
Dallas Eakins One-on-One: Part 1
Leafs centers
Bolland is still on the shelf for at least another month.
Kadri's is eligible to return.
Bozak should be back Thursday or Saturday.
McClement
Holland
Smith
Smithson
With the acquistion of Holland, a young center with upside, could Kadri now be on the block ?
Bolland is still on the shelf for at least another month.
Kadri's is eligible to return.
Bozak should be back Thursday or Saturday.
McClement
Holland
Smith
Smithson
With the acquistion of Holland, a young center with upside, could Kadri now be on the block ?
Bigger is only better if you can skate, today's game is all about speed and quick puck movement. I think the leafs have enough "big" guys but most of them skate like they have cement on their feet.
What do you think the Leafs will do when Bozak gets back ?(Kadri back tonight)
They may wait until Bolland returns, which is still at least four/six weeks away, but what then ?
I also like Holland and would like to see him on the first or second line for five or seven games.
I've indicated many times in the past that I don't like playing the "GM game" and I'm not really going to start here but since you asked:
As you say, they have time 'til Bolland gets back. Lots of things can happen between now and then.
If it were right now, I think Holland would get sent down. He's not going to replace any of the other 4. Kadri (the punk) still has a lot more upside potential than Holland. Maybe the suspension will be a kick in the ass for him to grow up and conduct himself like a professional.
The team is still very young and growing together as a group under Randy. It's a work in progress and if potential is realized Kadri could be a key contributor. Not sure they want to make that significant of a change yet. The "potential" factor, though, does have a best before date. Holland is more of a soldier. He can be a solid contributor but likely not a game breaker the way Kadri can be.
A trade involving Kadri would probably occur later in the season, when more options are available as more teams become cellar dweller sellers.
I'm not sure I get the rush to trade Nazem Kadri.
It is fairly typical of Maple Leafs fans, they (we) tend to eat our young players.
Nazem Kadri is a special talent, you don't (shouldn't) trade players with nifty mittens like his because of a few bumps in the road.
It is fairly typical of Maple Leafs fans, they (we) tend to eat our young players.
Nazem Kadri is a special talent, you don't (shouldn't) trade players with nifty mittens like his because of a few bumps in the road.
Smith is out of options and must go to waivers if the Leafs try to send him down, Holland has options, so it will be Smith left with the Leafs when the Bozak gets back.
