Toronto Maple Leafs 2010/11
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I didn't say when. The question was "will he ever score?"We're waiting.
You'll have to wait until he gets called back up.We're waiting.
If Kadri does score an official NHL goal what team will he be playing for?Darryl Boyce scored an official NHL goal in his second NHL game. Will Kadri ever score an official NHL goal?
Boston! Assisted by Tyler Seguin and their '11 first round pick (whoever he might be) in OT against Toronto to boot the Leafs out of the playoffs for the 9th straight year.If Kadri does score an official NHL goal what team will he be playing for?
Traded for Marc Savard. lol Hell, they've already got our '10 and '11 first round pick they might as well have our '09 too...........
Calvin, stop eating out of Hobbes' box.Boston! Assisted by Tyler Seguin and their '11 first round pick (whoever he might be) in OT against Toronto to boot the Leafs out of the playoffs for the 9th straight year.
Traded for Marc Savard. lol Hell, they've already got our '10 and '11 first round pick they might as well have our '09 too...........
At their current pace, the Leafs could have two 30 goal scorers (Kessel and Grabovski) and three 20 goal scorers (MacArthur, Versteeg and Kulemin) by season's end. That would be good for any team to have five 20 or more goal scorers.
*DING*DING*At their current pace, the Leafs could have two 30 goal scorers (Kessel and Grabovski) and three 20 goal scorers (MacArthur, Versteeg and Kulemin) by season's end. That would be good for any team to have five 20 or more goal scorers.
I'm not professing that this build of the leafs will amount to anything, but understand that what Burke is trying to do is build a team with depth. DEPTH gets you through the long season and playoffs.
Once the depth is in place and the role players (Bozak, Hanson, Armstrong, Sjostrom) have been established, you are one or two KEY acquisitions from a contender. You ad another puck mover on the back end (assuming Kaberle is still around when this is established), a GOOD first line centre and a legitimate power forward and it's a tough team to beat.
So here lies the key...he was allowed to develop. Pogge was taken in the 3rd round, but was supposed to be a savior because he played a mediocre tournament for Canada at the World Juniors. Well guess what...so did Trevor Kidd.Who is James Reimer I ask ... He was drafted in 2006 and since then I have been sold on so many goalies being the answer Andrew Raycroft, Mikael Tellqvist, Jean-Sebastien Aubin, Vesa Toskala, Jonas Gustavsson, and Jean-Sebastien Giguere, and this guy comes along under the radar ... This guy was sent down to ECHL cause Leafs kept on trading or signing guys and he sank in the depth chart and under the radar he has developed his game ... A fourth round draft pic that we proably ignored cause we were all paying attention to Jiri Tlusty ... Also a rade that went ingnored on that day cause JFJ was trading for Raycroft was a trade was to exchange picks with Chicago. The Leafs received the 99th and 111th picks from the Blackhawks for their 76th overall pick. With that pick we drafted Reimer ...
A year after they draft Pogge, they take a goalie by the name of Tukka Rask in the FIRST round, yet decide that the third round guy is better than than the first round guy and is also going to be better than the OTHER first round guy that won the Calder Trophy. Good call on that one. A year later, they take Reimer and he does continue to fall down the depth charts, but is allowed to properly develop, the way a young player should.
Reimer is not the savior either, but he is hot. When the team has a hot goalie, they play better. They feel more confident to take chances so they control the game better. Felix Potvin was a goalie that came out of nowhere as well, doing well in the minors for one season and then getting his shot at the NHL when Grant Fuhr was hurt. The rest became Leaf's folklore.
Thanks tips. I, unlike most, am a REALISTIC Leafs fan. I am not discounting Reimer's ability, but he is not the Messiah that will lead us to the promise land. He COULD develop into a key piece of the puzzle, just like Potvin did, but he will not win a championship on his own.Reimer is no the savior ??? Why not I say ... And that is coming from a Leaf fan who is negative about the situation but I say why not .. This guy isn't just a hot goalie for a week ... Last year he out played Joey MacDonald but Joey got the call ups and the bulk of the games ( 36 ) but Reimer in 26 games out played him 2.25 .925 SAA and this year in AHL he was player of week and was hot with a .925 and 7-3 in 10 games ... Jonas Hiller was undrafted and without hype went to AHL and dominated and then carried it over to NHL ... Not every savior has hype associated with their name ..
And last I checked, Hiller was won 0 stanley cups.
Nice little run the boys are on. Held on to edge LA last night.
I like the way the call ups are playing. Reimer is hot right now and the Leafs should ride him as long as they can.
I heard today that Giguere is still a few more games away, so it sounds like Reimer will be around for a few more games.
I like the way the call ups are playing. Reimer is hot right now and the Leafs should ride him as long as they can.
I heard today that Giguere is still a few more games away, so it sounds like Reimer will be around for a few more games.
A rookie goalie is like a rookie pitcher, will the shooters find his weak spots? Time will tell.Before any goalie achived greatness they were once just like Reimer a AHL product who excelled at the AHL level and then were given a NHL opportunity ...
Not to belabour the point, but the Leafs with 5 could have more 20 goal scorers than the Penguins or Capitals who are on pace to have 3 each.
Jonas Hiller played six games in AHL and went 3-2-0...I wouldn't really classify that as a domination of a league. Hiller actually developed in the Swiss League before being brought over by Brian Burke. If anything, you can compare his story to that of Lunqvist or Gustavsson - with the exception that Hiller was brought to a good team to adjust to the NHL, unlike Gustavsson that entered with a team that was a hot mess.... Jonas Hiller was undrafted and without hype went to AHL and dominated and then carried it over to NHL ... Not every savior has hype associated with their name ..
What I'm trying to say is that ONE player will rarely drastically change a team in the long term. He becomes an intricate piece of a larger puzzle. If you are talking about a Brodeur or Roy or Belfour or Miller or Hasek, then you are talking about a goalie that can single handedly INSTANTLY improve a team. Outside of that small group (with maybe room for a few others), it's a daunting expectation to have a goalie carry you for a long time.Why can't Reimer be the Messiah for the Leafs ... Before any goalie achived greatness they were once just like Reimer a AHL product who excelled at the AHL level and then were given a NHL opportunity ...
Halak is a good goalie, but Montreal would have never made their playoff run if they had not had the luck of his hot streak coming when it did. It was a short period of time and it's unlikely that it is sustainable on a bad team.
The largest problem that players face in Toronto is that as soon as one starts performing well, the entire weight of the team and the city is put on that individual's shoulders. Every new "hot player" is the Messiah. They should enjoy the hot streak while it lasts and just because he loses a game, does not mean he gets sent down. If he plays well, he should remain. If he wins a few more, then he earns the right to have a bad game or two as well without getting shipped off.
I, for one, hope that he continues to do well. I have no expectations of the Leafs making the playoffs, but it would be wonderful to see them work their way out of a top ten pick...just so that people will shut up about the Kessel deal.
Too bad John Ferguson gave away a first round pick to get Vesa Toskala from San Jose.
San Jose traded the Leaf pick plus gave away something like a 3rd round draft choice to move up 2 spots in the draft to make sure they got Logan Couture. If Leaf management was half decent they could have done exact same thing.
Couture has 19 goals so far this season which would make him the Leafs top goal scorer if he played here.
http://sharks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474053
San Jose traded the Leaf pick plus gave away something like a 3rd round draft choice to move up 2 spots in the draft to make sure they got Logan Couture. If Leaf management was half decent they could have done exact same thing.
Couture has 19 goals so far this season which would make him the Leafs top goal scorer if he played here.
http://sharks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474053
If Leaf management had been half way decent. JFJ was then, Burke is now.Too bad John Ferguson gave away a first round pick to get Vesa Toskala from San Jose.
San Jose traded the Leaf pick plus gave away something like a 3rd round draft choice to move up 2 spots in the draft to make sure they got Logan Couture. If Leaf management was half decent they could have done exact same thing.
Well, I did say John Ferguson and I did use the past tense "was".
I think it can be assumed readers of this thread know Burkie is the current GM.
I will grant that "had been" feels more accurate; but, really I prefer to just type something out in 15 seconds and hit the send button when I post here.
If my grammar is a bit off c'est la vie.
I think it can be assumed readers of this thread know Burkie is the current GM.
I will grant that "had been" feels more accurate; but, really I prefer to just type something out in 15 seconds and hit the send button when I post here.
If my grammar is a bit off c'est la vie.
