Toronto Maple Leafs 2010/11
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Leafs probably would have lost in both L.A. and San Jose if Gigere or Gustavsson had played.
I get the feeling the players and Wilson like having Reimer in net and they're not going to be happy if he gets sent down to Marlies because he's clearly the best goalie the way he's been playing.
If Burke doesn't want to buy out the rest of Gigere's contract and release him, they should go with 3 goalies for a while.
I get the feeling the players and Wilson like having Reimer in net and they're not going to be happy if he gets sent down to Marlies because he's clearly the best goalie the way he's been playing.
If Burke doesn't want to buy out the rest of Gigere's contract and release him, they should go with 3 goalies for a while.
True, but unfortunately, if he had been drafted by the Leafs, he would likely not have 19 since he wouldn't be playing with Joe Thornton.
If we Ferguson hadn't traded Rask to Boston for Raycroft, we'd still have him as well.
The problem is that the Leafs have been hopelessly searching for the next Cujo or Belfour for the better part of the last decade. They have shown no patience in getting there.
Marc-Andre Fleury wasn't that great in his first couple of years in the league, but Pittsburgh understood that patience was required to let the team get better around him.
I'll agree to that....
honestly believe that when Burke brought Giguere to Toronto, it was for him to share the starting role with Gustavsson and eventually (likely this year) give way to Gustavsson being the main guy and Giguere being the backup. He was very open in stating that he wanted Giguere to work in mentoring role with the monster. I believe that he would do the same thing with Reimer. If Reimer is the real-deal (and he is starting to prove it more and more), I think that Burke would run with him. Would he send Gustavsson down? Who knows. He might talk to him and explain that right now, the choice is to sit in the press box, sit on the bench, or play hockey and all he has to do is go to the minors for a bit. Burke is an egomaniac so it's hard to say what he would do, because in part, he doesn't want to admit that he was wrong in pursuing Gustavsson as aggressively as he did, but he also doesn't want to give up another lottery pick as part of the Kessel deal. He wants to do whatever it takes to win so I think that he would stay with the hot hand. Reimer would have to drop to mediocrity at this point for it to make sense to send him down.
Contracts frequently decide who gets sent down, not merit.
Gustavsson has a one way contract; so, he has to get put on waivers first before he can be sent down to Marlies and likely another team would claim him.
Unlikely Burke wants to give up on him and wants to give him more time to show what he can do.
Gustavsson has a one way contract; so, he has to get put on waivers first before he can be sent down to Marlies and likely another team would claim him.
Unlikely Burke wants to give up on him and wants to give him more time to show what he can do.
Yes, I agree with you. Most prospects just don't pan out. Got to play them to find out.
So, far Gustavsson has not looked all that great in the 1.5 years he's been here.
Gustavsson has been decent in the time that he has been here. There is still a lot of work to do , but he has the athleticism to make it in the NHL.
I didn't think that Gustavsson would have to clear waivers based on his age and experience, but he has just crossed that line so you're right, he would need to clear waivers. I do not see the Leafs putting him on waivers. While on the subject of Gustavsson, lets not forget that he won 7 straight starts at the end of last year. Before we claim that Reimer is the future and Gustavsson is a bust, lets see what happens longer term.
I didn't think that Gustavsson would have to clear waivers based on his age and experience, but he has just crossed that line so you're right, he would need to clear waivers. I do not see the Leafs putting him on waivers. While on the subject of Gustavsson, lets not forget that he won 7 straight starts at the end of last year. Before we claim that Reimer is the future and Gustavsson is a bust, lets see what happens longer term.
even though our team made some mistakes but it seems like the players are playing much harder in front of reimer ...i notice were blocking way more shots too getting in the passing lane...just much better overall in defence last few games... the confidence of Reimer rubs off onto the team
the difference between Reimer and Gustaffson can be boiled down to two words "rebound control" it must be said that he has benefitted from some improved defensive play of late (more in front of the net presence from Toronto D) and two working offensive lines who are maintaining control of the puck some 150 feet away from the Toronto net.
I agree, I'm such a chump I watch all the fucking exhibition games as well as regular season and thought Riemer was the strongest of the three goalies. that said, I have no hate for the other two and in this new "contract is all" league I understand it's gotta be hard to keep him up here even though he's winning
Alan Bester was a star?? Holy crap. He was almost as bad as Peter Ing or Mark Laforest.
Maybe even WORSE than Ing.
Potvin really only had a few good years. Then he became average. A decent goalie, but average none-the-less. He was no more a star than Dan Cloutier in Vancouver.
Don't get me wrong I love Potvin...had poster of him on my wall and all...and I love what he did and the thrill that he and the rest of the Leafs gave us for those couple of years, but he is not a star. He will never go to the Hall of Fame.
The reason Potvin had a couple of good years was because he had some very good defense men in front of him.
Macoun
Bob Rouse
Lefebvre
Gill (yes he finally figured it out about the same time Potvin started)
Dave Ellett
Mironov
Fletcher traded Lefebvre in the Sundin -Clarke deal.
Toronto got the pillion Garth Butcher in return
After that Potvin never played as quite as well. later Rouse and then Ellott were traded and Felix was an average goalie
A good set of defensemen cam make a good goalie look like a great goalie
BTW
Wreggett & Bester should never be used in the same sentence as great goalie
I totally agree back in those days those leaf teams had weak defences so Wreggett & Bester would have a larger number of shots then the other teams goalie thus wearing them down over time as the season wore on they were good goalies but the lack of defence just wore them out with all the shots
Good to see the boys winning a few.
Hope they can make it a four game win streak against the equally hot Devils.
Press Conference at 4:30
I guess Burke will answer questions about the Beauchemin/Lupul, Gardiner trade.
Lupul will play tomorrow night against New Jersey
Not getting ahead of myself or anything, but the playoffs are not out of the question.
Hope they can make it a four game win streak against the equally hot Devils.
Press Conference at 4:30
I guess Burke will answer questions about the Beauchemin/Lupul, Gardiner trade.
Lupul will play tomorrow night against New Jersey
Not getting ahead of myself or anything, but the playoffs are not out of the question.
The Leafs usually play their best hockey in April when they are firmly out of the playoffs.
April. The regular season is over and the Leafs are out of the playoffs.
Is this road hockey you're referring to?
I just checked the schedule. The Leafs last regular season game is April 9th. They play 4 games in April. Any bet they will win 3 of the 4?
Have they been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, if so, they will win 3 of 4, if not, best they will do is go 2-2 .
toronto has 28 games remaining i.e. 56 points to play for. Currently standing on 51 points. If we take the average of the last 5 seasons the 8th spot should come out to be about 92-94 points. so to get to those points toronto will have to get at least 41-43 points more. this means winning 20-21 games and one OT loss. so basically toronto can only afford to lose 6-7 games in regulation to make 92-94 points.
Simply put: Win 20-21 games out of 28 games remaining with one OT loss.
Or best is win all the freakin 28 games, yea I know its too much, but one can always hope eh
Simply put: Win 20-21 games out of 28 games remaining with one OT loss.
Or best is win all the freakin 28 games, yea I know its too much, but one can always hope eh
