The really amusing part is that Gretzky needed neither your half of the average nor his own half of the average to be the all-time NHL points leader.
Gretzky loved stats too.
The Pandemic That Wasn't
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The really amusing part is that Gretzky needed neither your half of the average nor his own half of the average to be the all-time NHL points leader.
Gretzky loved stats too.
It's rent day, tomorrow. After the default stats hit the government, Doug will go into full panic mode. I'm fully expecting the opening during the month of May.
The Americans have 19% unemployed right now, think that puts it almost on par with the Great Depression. Canada must be near that rate too. Just imagine what it would be like at the end of May if Ford refuses to budge based on some dream target of being below 200 new cases per day before starting phase 1 of his reopening plan. Not going to happen.
Ford is waiting until the current State of Emergency expires (May 12) then things will open up and they will open up very fast. There is a second order in place that expires May 6, I think some things like surgery will reopen May 7. You heard it hear first!!
Not a news to me. I predicted May 1st as the decision time back in end of March simply based on the statistics of the Canadians' savings rates. We had one month worth of cash to stay afloat. Anything beyond that would simply break down the society. Even the 2k relief from the fed is not changing it because, simply, 2k in the GTA is fuck all.
In relative numerical terms the above is correct. Yet it isn't relevant to the equation we're analyzing.
The only comparison that matters is to compare the present state that the world is in, Covid deaths-wise to
the state the world would be in Covid deaths-wise had there been zero lockdowns anywhere.
The fact that Covid is a jet-setters disease, transported by the relatively affluent and mobile (to kill-off the poor and immobile) is further proof that it needs to be nipped in what is still the relative 'bud' NOW, and before it takes out tens of millions in Africa alone.
Right now Covid has at least a battle on its hands vs. first-world countries with reasonable medical facilities and various checks and balances to combat it. Once it gets going in third-world places with terrible hospitals and pathetic living conditions it will just run rampant through entire populations. What we know as a strong lean toward those 70 years old and up, will suddenly dip down to 37 and up in many backwater places.
It would already be rampant in (more of) those very places were affluent jet-setters still circulating without restraint around the planet at this time.
Stupid comparisons between two sets of numerical data in today's present have nothing to do with the important picture.
If you can find a way to compare today's present with what the world would have on its hands had it not acted when it did and as strongly as it has, then you'll have some data that relates at all to our shared situation.
Heck, you clowns can't yet even come up with accurate data as it related to China's true numbers... and that was practically last year.
Having you guys ponder the future, or even the present, is seemingly way beyond your pay grades.
You simply do not since you keep talking about deaths rather than the number of cases.
Unfortnately people like you are more concerned about their selfish wants and getting to see SP's sooner rather than the health and well being of others and our community. As for your assertion that businesses will open in a week I do hope they won't and do hope we are well below that 200 number of new cases daily prior to opening.
As for the majority of Ontarians only want the shutdowns to be lifted when there is a small number of cases, and proper tracing and health measures are in place, only the few irrational, loud and ignorant want it to open ASAP without the proper measures in place.
I'm pretty sure a terb poll is not reflective of the general population. Just a hunch. There are a abnormally high number of tin-foil hat wearers here. It would be the angriest, most paranoid, conspiracy-ridden population in the world.
https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-p...ess-on-covid-19-before-returning-to-work-poll
This is the only one I've seen which doesn't show the will of the people being to open the flood gates. It reflects that the majority want to see serious progress (like myself, Trudeau, Ford, Tory, Tam etc. ) before they open the gates.
Based on the reaction of the general public to a virus as non-lethal as covid, we can safely say that it would be absolute pandemonium if and when a serious virus lands on us. Not just empty toilet paper shelves, but murders and looting would go thru the roof. Most people can't handle a little scare which is laughs considering how many actions and horror movies the average North American has watched.
Covid has been a great primer, a wonderful exercise. We've learned a lot about ourselves because of it, and notes have been taken by those in power.
I spent another 9 hour shift delivering groceries today. So many people are so grateful (from 6+ feet away) and think I'm this amazing human being for having the balls to work in such a terrifying time. lmao
It's just another day, like it was pre-covid. You'll all catch up to speed eventually.
Covid has been a great primer, a wonderful exercise. We've learned a lot about ourselves because of it, and notes have been taken by those in power.
I spent another 9 hour shift delivering groceries today. So many people are so grateful (from 6+ feet away) and think I'm this amazing human being for having the balls to work in such a terrifying time. lmao
It's just another day, like it was pre-covid. You'll all catch up to speed eventually.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/leaf...virus-when-you-get-this-you-cant-breathe.html
Just a minor flew, yep.
Just a minor flew, yep.
While their statements may fall short of arguing for an immediate reopening of everything, a number of prominent doctors have expressed skepticism about the extent and proportionality of the current lockdown measures.
Here are a few examples:
Dr. John Ioannidis of the Stanford University School of Medicine
Dr. Knut Wittkowski of the Rockefeller University's Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design
Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, former head of Dresden's Institute of Medical Microbiology and Hygiene [video in German, with English subtitles]
To be clear, I'm not suggesting that these doctors must be right and others wrong. I'm just suggesting that the question of the current lockdown measures' proportionality admits legitimate debate.
Thousands of California health care workers laid off or furloughed as COVID-19 spreads
Healthcare workers, championed as heroes of the COVID-19 crisis and applauded for risking their lives to protect others, have been hit especially hard by the severe economic fallout wrought by the pandemic.
In California, thousands of nurses, doctors and other medical staff have been laid off or furloughed or have taken a pay cut since mid-March. The pain has been felt broadly, from major facilities such as Stanford Health Care to tiny rural hospitals to private practitioners.Across the nation, job losses in the healthcare sector have been second only to those in the restaurant industry, according to federal labor statistics.
Hospitals and doctors’ offices lost billions in revenue when they canceled elective surgeries and non-emergent visits to prepare for a possible surge in COVID-19 patients and to reduce the spread of the virus.
Patients also began scheduling fewer appointments and avoiding the hospital, even for medical emergencies, creating another hit for providers who were already hurting. The surge, in places where it did arrive, was not enough to compensate for the losses, experts say.
https://ktla.com/news/california/th...s-laid-off-or-furloughed-as-covid-19-spreads/
Healthcare workers, championed as heroes of the COVID-19 crisis and applauded for risking their lives to protect others, have been hit especially hard by the severe economic fallout wrought by the pandemic.
In California, thousands of nurses, doctors and other medical staff have been laid off or furloughed or have taken a pay cut since mid-March. The pain has been felt broadly, from major facilities such as Stanford Health Care to tiny rural hospitals to private practitioners.Across the nation, job losses in the healthcare sector have been second only to those in the restaurant industry, according to federal labor statistics.
Hospitals and doctors’ offices lost billions in revenue when they canceled elective surgeries and non-emergent visits to prepare for a possible surge in COVID-19 patients and to reduce the spread of the virus.
Patients also began scheduling fewer appointments and avoiding the hospital, even for medical emergencies, creating another hit for providers who were already hurting. The surge, in places where it did arrive, was not enough to compensate for the losses, experts say.
https://ktla.com/news/california/th...s-laid-off-or-furloughed-as-covid-19-spreads/
Deaths in ON
0 if < 20
7 if 20-39
52 if 40-49
302 if 60-79
815 if 80+
Again
Old people die
People with weak immune systems die
The ravaged economic policy the Liberals insist on locking down will kill *millions* long term
eg 40,000 died due to poverty
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/com...illing_thousands_of_canadians_every_year.html
Pushing many more into this economic collapse practically ensures this number will double next year
Even if Covid kills 2000 a month it is killing less than poverty does
0 if < 20
7 if 20-39
52 if 40-49
302 if 60-79
815 if 80+
Again
Old people die
People with weak immune systems die
The ravaged economic policy the Liberals insist on locking down will kill *millions* long term
eg 40,000 died due to poverty
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/com...illing_thousands_of_canadians_every_year.html
Pushing many more into this economic collapse practically ensures this number will double next year
Even if Covid kills 2000 a month it is killing less than poverty does
0ver 10,000 dead in Russia yesterday, the highest number reported anywhere.
They got it bad because the didn’t do the social distancing, lockdown, until too late.
They closed theirs boarder early and thought that would save them. Then UNreported cases ran rampant and the virus really took off. And lots of govt workers as well as the old and infirm.
If we (and the rest of the world) didn’t do the lockdown, it would have been really really bad.
New York City had the worst of it (now exceeded by Moscow) and they are certainly not ready to open yet.
People, me included, are dying to get out and back to normal. Govt, police and anyone else are NOT going to be able to stop it. But there will be lots of arguing and accusations on both sides. Tensions are running high. Expect more crazies coming out.
And economy. Yes we’re all hurting. Anybody remember the stock market tanking “Before” the lockdown just on speculation.
The economy will eventually recover, probably take years. But we’ll never get back all the friends and family and parents that died.
P.S. my opinion tends to be skewed toward the positive, sorry I can’t help it.
They got it bad because the didn’t do the social distancing, lockdown, until too late.
They closed theirs boarder early and thought that would save them. Then UNreported cases ran rampant and the virus really took off. And lots of govt workers as well as the old and infirm.
If we (and the rest of the world) didn’t do the lockdown, it would have been really really bad.
New York City had the worst of it (now exceeded by Moscow) and they are certainly not ready to open yet.
People, me included, are dying to get out and back to normal. Govt, police and anyone else are NOT going to be able to stop it. But there will be lots of arguing and accusations on both sides. Tensions are running high. Expect more crazies coming out.
And economy. Yes we’re all hurting. Anybody remember the stock market tanking “Before” the lockdown just on speculation.
The economy will eventually recover, probably take years. But we’ll never get back all the friends and family and parents that died.
P.S. my opinion tends to be skewed toward the positive, sorry I can’t help it.
Russia has 146 million people and 1280 Corona deaths.
Canada has 38 million people and 3682 Corona deaths.
New York City has 9 million people and 13,538 deaths.
