The Great Debate

[WyattEarp]

Do you have a background in business with some university-level economics?

I am curious, is Trump correct when he tells his maga base that CHINA will be paying the US oooodles and oooooodles of tax money because of his imposed tariffs? Is this how tariffs work, the country the tariff is imposed on pays all the taxes to the country imposing the tariff.

At some level, it would cut into Chinese profit margins. Over time, it would encourage producers in Asia and likely Mexico to compete in those sectors.

There is a very simple economic rule that many people (and politicians) often ignore. If you want less of something, tax it. In this case, we want less Chinese exports into the U.S.

So in short, China and U.S. consumers would both pay the tariffs.

I think this is one of these not so great counterarguments that seems to get lost in the emotions against Trump. The European Union is contemplating tariffs against China. I believe the Biden Administration left many or all of Trump's previous tariffs in place.

I know one powerful group that opposes tariffs..........Wall Street. Believe me, they have a lot of highly-paid economists on staff to back up their POV.

 

[richaceg]

Being against racial supremacy and genocide is still progressive, Wyatt.
Progressive here means lib/ndp but in the US that's read as commie.

Harris would be fine except for her support of genocide, I still don't understand how people think backing genocide is 'pragmatic' or reasonable. Most dems poll the same way, they also want a ceasefire.

Harris is ok...but supporting Israel is where you draw the line...You're a joke...You're ok with her opening the borders, you're ok with her defunding the police...LOL

 

[shack]

Whatever man, I’m just wasting my time on here.

it’s not even worth it in this forum. I give up.

Please don't build our hopes up.

 

[richaceg]

Do you have a background in business with some university-level economics?

I am curious, is Trump correct when he tells his maga base that CHINA will be paying the US oooodles and oooooodles of tax money because of his imposed tariffs? Is this how tariffs work, the country the tariff is imposed on pays all the taxes to the country imposing the tariff.

Obviously you have poor people skills too... Trump can't be too technical when explaining to Americans how Tariffs work. He needs to reach every american the best way they understand it... What has Kamala so far has said? Giving 50k to small businesses, 6k to support family...where are those funds coming from? LOL
You happy with her answer to the very first question?
Be honest.

 

[shack]

I am a tubby bitch, John Pinette is was a morbidly obese guy. Yes we are both have excess adipose tissue, but again, not equivalent.

Fixed your post.

 

[richaceg]

The one who isn't doing his homework besides reading just headlines, tweets and Trump bullshit nonsensical propaganda is you my naive friend.

Trump's wall: How much has been built during his term?

It was a key part of Mr Trump's 2016 election campaign, so how much of the wall has he got done?

www.bbc.com

However, only 80 miles of new barriers have been built where there were none before - that includes 47 miles of primary wall, and 33 miles of secondary wall built to reinforce the initial barrier.


I included the important information from the article because I know you have a hard time going on after the headline.

You're welcome! I am always here to try and show you the light.

so not only did he build the wall, he also reinforced the old one that didn't work....good to know....but as soon as he left...they open the borders so the wall also didn't work...the wall from your link that was build by his predecessors to stop illegals from crossing, didn't work because well...the gates were open...LOL...I can do this all day...

 

[WyattEarp]

Do you have a background in business with some university-level economics?

You haven't been paying attention.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1833928250101235950

 

[WyattEarp]

Because i do not believe the conservator will fix shit.

Canada needs immigrants to keep its economy afloat. Yet we have no where to house them! We are lacking 1 million houses!

I am thinking might as well go ndp! I prefer the socialist pathway to the greedy capitalist one.

Well that didn't take long. Here's your post from July:

I don't really care. I voted conservator in canada because they made sense.

Why would a self-professed socialist ever vote Conservative?

 

[jalimon]

Well that didn't take long. Here's your post from July:



Why would a self-professed socialist ever vote Conservative?

Voted. That means that was in the past. I am changing. I am changing because our society is changing.

I would like much more chances for our younger generations to have a decent life.

 

[WyattEarp]

Or maybe it's the American way of doing things that have changed as evidenced by the fact that the country is becoming more divided and extreme than ever. The US is very different than it was 20 ago.

There's a lot of evidence that the country is not as divided as the media portrays it to be. We do have strong far left and far right contingencies, but if I had to guess they might max out at 25-30% at the fringes.

The media magnifies the noise. It sells papers as they used to say. Having two parties that are both competitive also creates the feeling that disagreement is damaging, when most Americans have a pragmatic perspective.

I have often said I think disagreement and debate are healthy for a democracy. I point to Germany where voters are so frustrated with the relative homogeneity of the historic mainstream parties that many are voting for fringe parties.

The Polarization Myth

The growing evidence that—even heading into this year’s election—Americans are less divided than you may think.

time.com

 

[WyattEarp]

Voted. That means that was in the past. I am changing. I am changing because our society is changing.

I would like much more chances for our younger generations to have a decent life.

You denounced capitalism. Now the answer is the government should provide everything. You're a universal everything guy.

No one changes that much unless of course they like to masquerade a bit on social media.

 

[jalimon]

You denounced capitalism. Now the answer is the government should provide everything. You're a universal everything guy.

No one changes that much unless of course they like to masquerade a bit on social media.

I do not denounced capitalism. I denounced over capitalism.

In most province of canada years ago our government decided to take care of electricity, and removed private sector from it. Their was a reason behind it. It had become a basic need and greedy private sector were abusing.

Just like current pharmaceutical companies charging American citizens some molecules 1000% more than what they ask other countries.

I think my biggest issue is i lust trust in people. It seems to me now that screwing up and overcharging anyone has become the norm.

I think we are at a point to revise a few other sectors like housing. And maybe or probably even food.

 

[Valcazar]

Other than entertainment value, at this point it's all about motivating their respective bases to stand in line for hours and vote.

There is only one base which needs to stand in line for hours to vote.

 

[silentkisser]

I see @mitchell76 and the other right wingers he follows are trying to flood the field with bullshit. Even the Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal is calling the pet eating story false. And of course it is racist and targets immigrants. And, as I mentioned in another thread, they're trying to rehabilitate Trump's disastrous performance on Tuesday by saying it was rigged and the moderators were out to get him....even though he spoke for much longer than Harris. Which...might have been her plan. The man cannot stay on script, and apparently if he has to talk for more than two sentences he begins to ramble and make crazier and crazier statements...

 

[jalimon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834020891543355841

CNN is owned by republicans. They are on the way down.

For many years they fought. They though sticking to reality would prevail. But now they are realizing they are loosing that battle.

because social networks are grabbing all commercial space, and having ppl on these networks the possibility to say any shit they want on it, CNN is going to disappear.

 

[shack]

Ohhh I see.

Reminds me of the old story:

I see, said the blind carpenter, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

 

[SchlongConery]

TERB= Toronto's Mitchel76's Twitter Feed Spam posting board.

Pathetic...

 

[Valcazar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1833684858586968098

I'm always intrigued by these kinds of tweets - where they link a piece of video that doesn't show what they say it does.
Do they just assume their readership never watches things?

 

[Valcazar]

TERB= Toronto's Mitchel76's Twitter Feed Spam posting board.

Pathetic...

It really shows you just how badly they think Trump did that they are in this kind of spammy spin mode.