The Great Debate

[WyattEarp]

You know he didn't really build the wall, huh?.....

You know she says she wants to build the wall, huh?.....

 

[mandrill]

You know she says she wants to build the wall, huh?.....

We'll see how far THAT gets.

There's a lot of very empty country to span on your southern border.

 

[mandrill]

Immigration is a major issue in the United States. Immigration will be an issue in Canada next year. Immigration is a major issue in the U.K, France, Germany, Italy and elsewhere in Europe.

Governments that ignore voters' sentiments will continue to be under pressure. It's not complicated. Why make democracy so hard?

I don't think it will be a major issue in Canada. The denser population centres are so heavily populated by first and second generation immigrants that the scare is far less scary here.

It might be couched in "Not enough housing and medical care for everyone!" rhetoric to gain traction.

And the immigrants eating our pet moose, polar bears and beavers of course.

 

[Leimonis]

I don't think it will be a major issue in Canada. The denser population centres are so heavily populated by first and second generation immigrants that the scare is far less scary here.

It might be couched in "Not enough housing and medical care for everyone!" rhetoric to gain traction.

And the immigrants eating our pet moose, polar bears and beavers of course.

 

[WyattEarp]

I don't think it will be a major issue in Canada. The denser population centres are so heavily populated by first and second generation immigrants that the scare is far less scary here.

It might be couched in "Not enough housing and medical care for everyone!" rhetoric to gain traction.

And the immigrants eating our pet moose, polar bears and beavers of course.

Your economic stagnation is now being called a per capita recession by some economists with an emphasis on per capita. You're adding residents that are purchasing and consuming things. That can mask what's happening.

It's apparent a lot of the Canadians here on the political threads have a general disdain for economics and finance. It seems to be born out of ignorance on what gives Western industrialized nations the ability to be generous to citizens and new immigrants.

 

[altid13]

Obamacare will have the best insurance.

Can you explain what you mean by this statement. Last I looked Obamacare did not get the US Government into expanding Medicare - The Federal Healthcare program for retirees and other qualified citizens.

Are you talking about the Federal healthcare exchange where people can buy private healthcare? Major Health Care companies are on the exchange like Kaiser, United Health Care, Cigna so there are good options on the exchange. I have a self employed neighbor who uses it.

 

[mandrill]

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Dog-eater RFK Jr admits that Harris won the debate.

Also announces that he is moving to Springfield, OH tomorrow, says "I could use a cat sandwich with a side of chips and guac about now!"

 

[mandrill]

Your economic stagnation is now being called a per capita recession by some economists with an emphasis on per capita. You're adding residents that are purchasing and consuming things. That can mask what's happening.

It's apparent a lot of the Canadians here on the political threads have a general disdain for economics and finance. It seems to be born out of ignorance on what gives Western industrialized nations the ability to be generous to citizens and new immigrants.

We started off on whether immigration would be a bellweather political issue in Canada. I said that it probably wouldn't be.

Now you're wandering around.

 

[WyattEarp]

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Dog-eater RFK Jr admits that Harris won the debate.

Also announces that he is moving to Springfield, OH tomorrow, says "I could use a cat sandwich with a side of chips and guac about now!"

That's called an El Gato Supremo at my local tortas shop.

Is Valcazar going to call this post racist because I tied guacamole to the Mexican culture?

 

[WyattEarp]

We started off on whether immigration would be a bellweather political issue in Canada. I said that it probably wouldn't be.

Now you're wandering around.

I'm not wandering around. These will be the discussions around immigration in Canada next year IMHO.

 

[jalimon]

Immigration is a major issue in the United States. Immigration will be an issue in Canada next year. Immigration is a major issue in the U.K, France, Germany, Italy and elsewhere in Europe.

Governments that ignore voters' sentiments will continue to be under pressure. It's not complicated. Why make democracy so hard?

Immigration is right now a major issue in Canada. We took 1.3 million immigrants last year. We are the size of california!! (not in size or economy but in population).

we are fucked. Liberals or conservatives it won’t make a difference.

 

[jalimon]

Immigration (especially illegal), is already a huge issue in Canada. That's why Pierre is way up in the polls, over Justin!!

Never though i would ever write this but i agree with you.

 

[WyattEarp]

Immigration is right now a major issue in Canada. We took 1.3 million immigrants last year. We are the size of california!! (not in size or economy but in population).

we are fucked. Liberals or conservatives it won’t make a difference.

Canada is actually one of the few Western industrialized countries (besides remote island nations) that can easily close its border and limit its immigration.

I don't know why you feel compelled to throw the Conservatives under the bus.* They do not control anything in Ottawa.

* I actually think I know why. Lol.

 

[shakenbake]

 

[WyattEarp]

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Good meme except the creator couldn't be bothered to find a photo of Kamala Harris.

 

[jalimon]

Canada is actually one of the few Western industrialized countries (besides remote island nations) that can easily close its border and limit its immigration.

I don't know why you feel compelled to throw the Conservatives under the bus.* They do not control anything in Ottawa.

* I actually think I know why. Lol.

Because i do not believe the conservator will fix shit.

Canada needs immigrants to keep its economy afloat. Yet we have no where to house them! We are lacking 1 million houses!

I am thinking might as well go ndp! I prefer the socialist pathway to the greedy capitalist one.

 

[Valcazar]

I just don't want people to object to a settlement simply because Trump supports it.

I don't think that's particularly likely.
Being careful about any settlement he supports because he's not someone you should trust on this issue, sure.
But I can't see anyone saying "We were good with this settlement, but now that Trump came out to support it, we are turning it down."

Of course, set aside that idiot. He'd give away the store to make himself look good.

But how exactly do people expect settling with a bully to work out?

This war will end like virtually every other war ever has ended - in a negotiation.
The question is (and always has been) what the terms of that will be.

At some point both Ukraine and Russia will agree they will get a better deal from the treaty than from continuing the fighting.

 

[mandrill]

I'm not wandering around. These will be the discussions around immigration in Canada next year IMHO.

I don't think so.

I predict that The Toronto Sun will suddenly find a hotel where asylum claimants are being housed at public expense and tell us that the Ethiopians / Somalis / Haitians who live there slaughter and gut goats in the bathrooms of the hotel rooms.

That's the usual story that surfaces just before an election. It's our equivalent to your "Haitians are eating our pet cats!" bullshit.

Stuff about the "economy" doesn't work with rightie voters whose average IQ is less than the mentally sub normal schnauzer who lives next door to me. They work off sheet xenophobic race hate, like your buddies here on TERB.

 

[mandrill]

This war will end like virtually every other war ever has ended - in a negotiation.
The question is (and always has been) what the terms of that will be.

That's not really true, is it?

I can think of a lot of wars that didn't end in negotiations.

At some point both Ukraine and Russia will agree they will get a better deal from the treaty than from continuing the fighting.

There are all sorts of things that might happen. I don't think any of the likely ones involve negotiation.

I can foresee military or economic collapse to one or both combatants happening more likely than negotiation, the simple reason being that Putin is not perceived as an ethical player who will embrace and stand by the negotiated outcome.

If Putin dies, perhaps negotiations might be slightly more possible. I emphasize the word "slightly".

 

[mandrill]

Good meme except the creator couldn't be bothered to find a photo of Kamala Harris.

Witty.