The Great Debate

Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%
  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%
  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    98

Valcazar

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Sure. Doenitz signed a surrender in May 1945. That wasn't what I would call a negotiation.

The Germans also signed a surrender in November 1918. Not really a negotiation.

Lots of other examples

no
So we're just working from different definitions.
Which is fine.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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What bothers me most about Kamala is that she was participating willingly and enthusiastically in the "Great Biden Lie", that Biden was competent and a suitable candidate for another 4 years as President, despite her intimate knowledge of the actual facts.

This was essentially dishonest, and she was prepared to back him all the way up to the election, in the knowledge that sooner or later she would become the de facto President, with the unacknowledged, but fully expected, participation and guidance of Barack Obama and the rest of his crew.

More shameful than anything Trump has ever done in his Presidential duties.
More shameful than to claim that Haitians were eating pets, and double down on it even after getting fact checked by the mods? I don't think so.
 

basketcase

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Who cares who wins the debate.

It's anyway too late.
...
Other than entertainment value, at this point it's all about motivating their respective bases to stand in line for hours and vote.

And yes, it's pretty fucked the way election boards severely restrict early voting and the number of polling stations. It's clear the decision to keep the lines lengthy and long is intentional.
 

xmontrealer

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More shameful than to claim that Haitians were eating pets, and double down on it even after getting fact checked by the mods? I don't think so.
In my opinion absolutely. Harris, and the entire Democratic Party, backing a clearly incapable and incompetent candidate for President was a fraud on the entire nation, with potentially far reaching national and international consequences...

Where is your sense of proportion?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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In my opinion absolutely. Harris, and the entire Democratic Party, backing a clearly incapable and incompetent candidate for President was a fraud on the entire nation, with potentially far reaching consequences...
Applying that rule the Republican Party has been pulling that fraud for the last 8 years on the American people.
 

xmontrealer

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Applying that rule the Republican Party has been pulling that fraud for the last 8 years on the American people.
No point in arguing that with you, even though for the last 3.5 years Biden was President, not Trump. I wouldn't vote for Harris, Biden, or Trump.

Also not crazy about Poilievre, Singh, and Trudeau. Hard to find good political leaders these days...
 

Leimonis

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In my opinion absolutely. Harris, and the entire Democratic Party, backing a clearly incapable and incompetent candidate for President was a fraud on the entire nation, with potentially far reaching national and international consequences...

Where is your sense of proportion?
At least Biden hasn’t sucked Putin’s dick, hasn’t tried to get rid of NATO and hasn’t tried to retain power by force.
where is your sense of proportion?
 

NotADcotor

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No point in arguing that with you, even though for the last 3.5 years Biden was President, not Trump. I wouldn't vote for Harris, Biden, or Trump.

Also not crazy about Poilievre, Singh, and Trudeau. Hard to find good political leaders these days...
Well there is one, if you would put your faith in strange women lying in ponds giving out swords


It's time
 

xmontrealer

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At least Biden hasn’t sucked Putin’s dick, hasn’t tried to get rid of NATO and hasn’t tried to retain power by force.
where is your sense of proportion?
Not worth the typing effort involved to argue with you, as is usually the case when it gets adversarial on this forum...
 
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shack

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When I started doing business a few decades ago, Canada was very similar to the U.S. in its business environment. There was of course the govt. healthcare system versus the large private healthcare in the United States. Europe was always a difficult place to do business.

Somewhere along the line, I think Canadians were lured by the European idealism that seems to have led the Europeans down a dead end.
Or maybe it's the American way of doing things that have changed as evidenced by the fact that the country is becoming more divided and extreme than ever. The US is very different than it was 20 ago.
 
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Lenny59

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Megyn Kelly Rips ABC following Debate, Exposes Kamala Harris’ Cozy Ties to Network Execs:

 

Lenny59

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More shameful than to claim that Haitians were eating pets, and double down on it even after getting fact checked by the mods? I don't think so.
Springfield, Ohio— 𝗟𝗶𝗳𝗲 𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗱𝗲𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗹𝘀 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘀𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱 𝗮 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗽𝗶𝗴 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝗦𝗻𝘆𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗸 (where the goose abduction allegations are coming from) 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗿𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝘁 𝗼𝗳𝗳 𝗮𝘀 “𝗰𝘂𝗹𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝘂𝗳𝗳”. Multiple people she knows have had experiences with Haitian Immigrants saying they are going to curse them with voodoo.:

https://x.com/TaylerUSA/status/1833860464629194931
 

shack

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Seems like it was mentioned a lot in the debate tonight, but we also have a large, porous Southern border that a very loud, vocal minority wants to keep open.
I think that the Dems and their supporters have become more receptive to tightening the borders than they were even 10 years ago. I'll give trump credit for making it a concern earlier. However, his extreme and cruel measures were too harsh.
 

shack

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You should dig into Canada's structural economic stagnation for the last two decades. You're falling behind the industrialized West while most of your population lives 100 miles from an economic engine to the South. Something's up and it ain't your economy.
Are you saying that most of our population has lived within 160km of the border for only the last 2 decades?

Clearly this has always been the case and proximity to the border is a moot point.
 

shack

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The righties tears 😭 in this thread are nothing new but still sweet as honey
The righties' responses are nothing but loser talk. All they have is complaining about the moderators.

They actually mirror trump's whining. Everybody's against me. Woe is me. I'm a victim. Loser talk.

Why are they not defending his cat eating claims. They should prove that his statements are valid.
 

Leimonis

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The righties' responses are nothing but loser talk. All they have is complaining about the moderators.

They actually mirror trump's whining. Everybody's against me. Loser talk.
Endless grievances and whining. And they have the audacity to call others snowflakes
 
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