The 2024 US Presidential election

shack

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Why would I be happy?
I'm more pissed that Harris chose genocide when she knew it was a losing issue.
Because this is what you were pushing for. Rhetoric like this turned people away from Harris to trump. You wanted to demonize her. After that, the only choice was trump.
 

K Douglas

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Yes, the billionaires are very happy today.
Don't know why you are cheering them making more money, though.
I'm cheering on my retirement account making more money. If billionaires make more I don't give it a shit. It's not a zero sum game.
 
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K Douglas

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The DNC fucked over Bernie Sanders for Hillary in 2016.
He would have defeated Trump the 1st time imo.
A left wing populist vs a right wing populist.
No he wouldn't have won. He's too far left for the independents. But you're correct the DNC did fuck him over in favor of Clinton. They didn't want an old white man at the top of the ticket.
 
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K Douglas

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This crap about the Russia Ukraine War starting because Biden was President and would not have happened under Trump is total and utter BS.
As the Intel Agencies revealed that the war was planned for 2022 irrespective of who was elected in 2020. The following circumstantial reasons is definitely in line with the war preparation:

Putin would not have invaded Ukraine before 2018, as the FIFA Nations World Cup was being hosted by Russia who invested in the building of the infrastructure etc for this huge event.
No doubt that he would have contacted Xi to say that he needed his support to start the invasion after this World Cup event.
Xi probably told him to hold off until 2022 as China was the Host for the Winter Olympics. This would have put China in the middle of a rock and hard place if Putin invaded prior to the games. The majority of Nations would have boycotted the games if Russia was not kicked out of the Winter Olympics!!
That is why Putin made that trip to China to be one of the celebrity world leaders at these games in 2022 at the behest of China. All other leaders of the advanced nations not surprisingly boycotted the Winter Olympics. Then immediately after the games is when Putin invaded Ukraine!!
Delusional. The reason why Putin invaded the Ukraine was twofold. First NATO was considering Ukraine's admission to membership. Second, ethnic Russians were being treated like second class citizens in the Donbas region. Their candidates for office were being banned from running by Kiev. NATO membership would have been a non starter for Trump. And he likely would have been on the blower with Zelenskyy so fast about Donbas threatening pulling out of American assets unless policies changed.
 
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Butler1000

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No he wouldn't have won. He's too far left for the independents. But you're correct the DNC did fuck him over in favor of Clinton. They didn't want an old white man at the top of the ticket.
The new coalition that put Trump over the top this time is Hispanics, Young men, more Black people, along with his base.

These were the people, who put Bernie almost over the top in the primaries both times. Add in the Trump haters, and I think he would have made it, especially with the pandemic on, in the general election.
 

jalimon

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Yes, I have. I don't really see the point in debating a wide reaching manifesto written by a conservative think tank. The media did a good job of trying to tie Trump to everything in Project 2025. Sometimes manipulating passages to produce a more contentious argument. I'm guessing you have read media accounts and not that actual document.

Liberal media's participation and bias in the Project 2025 debate is really not important anymore. Personally, I find it a lot more productive to simply discuss and debate actual legislation that is put forward. It's the practical reality as opposed to the theoretical.

By the way, I was merely discussing your use of the word felon. The felony was likely going to be tossed out, but it gave Democrats a great talking point. You certainly can have your negative feelings towards Trump.
Hitler began with a manifesto.

For me it's inconceivable that someone can think Trump is the guy. I care about civility. In a high school the boys are grabbing women by the crotch. Screaming 'Your body my choices'. Where do you think that comes from?

I my son's class 4 years ago when he was 12 the exact same happened.

Your top leader is a reflection on the whole society. Trump is a lying pig felon and that reflects on our kids and general population.

life is not just about the economy.
 

Skoob

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i dont really care. Trump is a hateful bully ego maniacal ass hole. A sexual offender also.

The simple idea that the gop wrote project 2025 is horrible. Have you read some of hit?
Ah yes, the Project 2025 conspiracy thing the Dems peddled as another futile attempt at swaying voters with fear mongering...how did that work out?
 
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jalimon

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Hitler began with a manifesto.

For me it's inconceivable that someone can think Trump is the guy. I care about civility. In a high school the boys are grabbing women by the crotch. Screaming 'Your body my choices'. Where do you think that comes from?

I my son's class 4 years ago when he was 12 the exact same happened.

Your top leader is a reflection on the whole society. Trump is a lying pig felon and that reflects on our kids and general population.

life is not just about the economy.
What do you find amusing?
 
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