The 2024 US Presidential election

WyattEarp

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For those like me exasperated that a psychopath felon was elected remember this

Jalimon, if there is one case that will be thrown out or simply sunsetted it's the convoluted accounting misclassification case. The Judge who identifies as a Democrat no longer seems interested. The election and the prosecutor's political ambition were the big motivators for the case. The Judge didn't care if it was going to be thrown out on appeal after the election.

Perhaps I can't help you understand the legal case. However, I can show you the reality of the situation.
 
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WyattEarp

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I guess she's blaming & shaming all American women for not supporting the female candidate. Lol!
Kat Timpf: "I think one of the things that men and women have in common is that they don't like women." :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

 
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jalimon

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Jalimon, if there is one case that will be thrown out or simply sunsetted it's the convoluted accounting misclassification case. The Judge who identifies as a Democrat no longer seems interested. The election and the prosecutor's political ambition were the big motivators for the case. The Judge didn't care if it was going to be thrown out on appeal after the election.

Perhaps I can't help you understand the legal case. However, I can show you the reality of the situation.
i dont really care. Trump is a hateful bully ego maniacal ass hole. A sexual offender also.

The simple idea that the gop wrote project 2025 is horrible. Have you read some of hit?
 

silentkisser

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Or else what? He's the one claiming he could do it. To be honest, I'd love for him to find a solution that would result in lasting peace. But, forcing Ukraine to capitulate or allowing Israel to steamroll Gaza will likely create a temporary peace...
 
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silentkisser

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you feel like he did?
o boy that is factual



no guessing needed about what is a failed ideology
one only needs to take stock of the mess that is Canada now vs 10 years ago to know what is a failed ideology
your ideology !
I guess sarcasm is either lost on you, or doesn't work that well in writing...I mean, you try to present yourself as some sort of intellectual, but you cannot read between the lines. That is fact.
 
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silentkisser

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Peope including Trump's own supporters know how reliable he is. No
surprise if it ends up taking him more than 2400 hours to end the war
in Ukraine. That is still a more desirable outcome than for NATO members
having to come to the rescue of Zelensky the way Kim came to the rescue
of Putin.
What this sounds like is "Trump never meant it like that..." some how you and his followers always give him the benefit of the doubt, despite his long history of failing to do much of anything besides golf...
 
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WyattEarp

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The simple idea that the gop wrote project 2025 is horrible. Have you read some of hit?
Yes, I have. I don't really see the point in debating a wide reaching manifesto written by a conservative think tank. The media did a good job of trying to tie Trump to everything in Project 2025. Sometimes manipulating passages to produce a more contentious argument. I'm guessing you have read media accounts and not that actual document.

Liberal media's participation and bias in the Project 2025 debate is really not important anymore. Personally, I find it a lot more productive to simply discuss and debate actual legislation that is put forward. It's the practical reality as opposed to the theoretical.

By the way, I was merely discussing your use of the word felon. The felony was likely going to be tossed out, but it gave Democrats a great talking point. You certainly can have your negative feelings towards Trump.
 

WyattEarp

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But, forcing Ukraine to capitulate or allowing Israel to steamroll Gaza will likely create a temporary peace...
So what do you see for peace in the Ukraine and Gaza?

These thoughts you vaguely allude to are important to question. Do you think anyone working for a peace deal is going to be able to get the Russians and Ukrainians on friendlier terms while Putin is alive? Do you think Gazans will give up on their dream of destroying Israel.

Peace settlement first, then maybe some kind of economic rapprochement in both situations. In the case of Gaza, I'm definitely not talking about channeling aid through Hamas. Sometimes animosity and conflict dissipates with the passage of time, but the wounds in these regions will take a long time to heal.
 

JohnLarue

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I guess sarcasm is either lost on you, or doesn't work that well in writing...I mean, you try to present yourself as some sort of intellectual, but you cannot read between the lines. That is fact.

you should worry about how you present yourself

an uncompromising ideologue who cant think for yourself is not a flattering profile
Justin Trudeau has made a god awful mess and he is both stupid and corrupt. This is non-controversial or deniable when stacked against the facts
yet you will defend him right up to the fast approaching end or you constantly deflect for the same reason
an uncompromising ideologue does not have any credibility
its not a pretty picture

btw
I do not present myself as an intellectual
I just call them as i see them.
The fact I am right far more often than wrong and that bothers you, well, ......... that is your problem (one of many problems).
 
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What this sounds like is "Trump never meant it like that..." some how you and his followers always give him the benefit of the doubt, despite his long history of failing to do much of anything besides golf...
It is not giving Trump the benefit of doubt. People
already get used to the BS spewed by politicians. Many
people who voted Trump don't find him likeable. I am sure
more than a few of those working with him find him a
bizarre character.

Seriously do you really believe those who voted Trump
would be upset if it turns out he is unable to end the
war in Ukraine within 24 hours of inauguartion? I think
his supporters will be satisfied by Trump sending Zelensky
back to Europe in his next visit empty-handed.
 

JohnLarue

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What this sounds like is "Trump never meant it like that..." some how you and his followers always give him the benefit of the doubt, despite his long history of failing to do much of anything besides golf...

you do not get
the American voters were faced with two bad choices
Trump - bad personality (means -spirited, nasty, verdictive)
Harris- a blithering idiot with really bad policy

Bad personality you can ignore
Bad policy (particularly inflation driving money printing) impacts peoples lives directly

The us voter experienced the bad policy for several years and did not want a repeat

its time to wake up to reality, your fail ideology does not work, has been reject in the US and will be reject in Canada (the sooner the better)
 

shack

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But to answer the question, Gaza isn't on anyone's radar in any major way in the US.
He keeps talking about Gaza and the loss but he has yet to provide one iota of proof. BTW, his opinion and conjecture are not proof.

He has zero numbers of how many Muslims did or didn't vote and if they changed their minds and if the numbers actually changed any results.
 

shack

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Why would I be happy?
I'm more pissed that Harris chose genocide when she knew it was a losing issue.
Because this is what you were pushing for. Rhetoric like this turned people away from Harris to trump. You wanted to demonize her. After that, the only choice was trump.
 

K Douglas

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Yes, the billionaires are very happy today.
Don't know why you are cheering them making more money, though.
I'm cheering on my retirement account making more money. If billionaires make more I don't give it a shit. It's not a zero sum game.
 
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K Douglas

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The DNC fucked over Bernie Sanders for Hillary in 2016.
He would have defeated Trump the 1st time imo.
A left wing populist vs a right wing populist.
No he wouldn't have won. He's too far left for the independents. But you're correct the DNC did fuck him over in favor of Clinton. They didn't want an old white man at the top of the ticket.
 
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K Douglas

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This crap about the Russia Ukraine War starting because Biden was President and would not have happened under Trump is total and utter BS.
As the Intel Agencies revealed that the war was planned for 2022 irrespective of who was elected in 2020. The following circumstantial reasons is definitely in line with the war preparation:

Putin would not have invaded Ukraine before 2018, as the FIFA Nations World Cup was being hosted by Russia who invested in the building of the infrastructure etc for this huge event.
No doubt that he would have contacted Xi to say that he needed his support to start the invasion after this World Cup event.
Xi probably told him to hold off until 2022 as China was the Host for the Winter Olympics. This would have put China in the middle of a rock and hard place if Putin invaded prior to the games. The majority of Nations would have boycotted the games if Russia was not kicked out of the Winter Olympics!!
That is why Putin made that trip to China to be one of the celebrity world leaders at these games in 2022 at the behest of China. All other leaders of the advanced nations not surprisingly boycotted the Winter Olympics. Then immediately after the games is when Putin invaded Ukraine!!
Delusional. The reason why Putin invaded the Ukraine was twofold. First NATO was considering Ukraine's admission to membership. Second, ethnic Russians were being treated like second class citizens in the Donbas region. Their candidates for office were being banned from running by Kiev. NATO membership would have been a non starter for Trump. And he likely would have been on the blower with Zelenskyy so fast about Donbas threatening pulling out of American assets unless policies changed.
 
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