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shack

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Exactly, even from the girl pov, you think they would want to check me out first as well before some private fun. Common sense to me.
Precisely. A true SB wants to protect herself. A professional SP is looking for a client.

Many times I ask if this is something new for them and if so if they are excited or nervous about meeting SDs. If they're not nervous, they're a pro.
 
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If she can host she's likely an sp.
My strong preference is to host. I can set the mood, offer food, drinks, music, candles etc. Those are things that will make a true SB feel more comfortable. Sps don't give a shit. When chatting with a potential SB and they want to host, I ask "So your are more comfortable with incalls?" If they understand what "incall" means, they have exposed themselves as being a pro.
 
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Many times I ask if this is something new for them and if so if they are excited or nervous about meeting SDs. If they're not nervous, they're a pro.
Good tip.


My strong preference is to host. I can set the mood, offer food, drinks, music, candles etc. Those are things that will make a true SB feel more comfortable. Sps don't give a shit. When chatting with a potential SB and they want to host, I ask "So your are more comfortable with incalls?" If they understand what "incall" means, they have exposed themselves as being a pro.
I assume after the initial M&G? Thought hosting at your place was an absolute no-no.
 

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Sounds like you've had a pretty interesting journey in the sugar dating scene. It's great when it feels more like mutual enjoyment rather than purely transactional. Do you find age makes a difference in the connection?
I’m not really sure, I definitely look young for my age and most importantly treat the girls like it’s a pretty straightforward date. I’m sure there are some 30-40 girls that would be fine with dating a guy in his 60s and likely a grey hair factor where most girls in the 19-28 don’t want a guy with lots of grey I’m guessing. And more than age if you have a six pack, great smile and are genuinely nice (not reliant on your high end vehicle status haha) that’s likely the biggest thing
 

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I assume after the initial M&G? Thought hosting at your place was an absolute no-no.
Not necessarily. If I can get them here, 94.475% that I'll be fucking them without an allowance being agreed upon, prior.

I'm willing to do a M&G and have previously done so, but I'll usually get a good sense of if they're real or not by our prior discussions. If they can come here without negotiating a price, they're most likely not a pro. A pro needs to know what they'll be getting. They won't leave it open ended.
 

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Bottle service girls are definitely pricing themselves over 500 nowadays. They probably get offers in the clubs that are closer to a grand. Drugs and drama certainly are a part of the package
The fuck is bottle service girls?
 

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Can I ask you guys a question? If I think about doing this or trying the sugar baby experience.Whats the average pay I should give and for what length of time?
Regarding pay: the broad answer is 'whatever you and the woman agree to'. Typically in Toronto, you're looking at somewhere between 400-600 for each meet,
though some girls want far more and some (typically inexperienced) girls will be ok with less.

Length of time: unlike with an SP, there is no running clock, so again the answer is 'whatever you two agree to'. Generally, a meet may be something like 3-4 hours
and would include hanging out, maybe getting some food as well as intimacy.
 

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Can I ask you guys a question? If I think about doing this or trying the sugar baby experience.Whats the average pay I should give and for what length of time?
If you can afford it go strong with 500. I was trying to get a good deal for a while, 300-400. But in their minds they are for sale not rent. That extra money, I am on an absolute rampage.
 
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FunInToronto2023

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If you can afford it go strong with 500. I was trying to get a good deal for a while, 300-400. But in their minds they are for sale not rent. That extra money, I am on an absolute rampage.
💯 agree. If you are good looking, a nice and fun person, in great shape with a six pack still and are good with giving 500 each time you meet, you can pretty much smash any girl for 2-3 hours as a SB. Tons and tons of hot young girls that would be willing to do that. But they have to be attracted to you as well.
 
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💯 agree. If you are good looking, a nice and fun person, in great shape with a six pack still and are good with giving 500 each time you meet, you can pretty much smash any girl for 2-3 hours as a SB. Tons and tons of hot young girls that would be willing to do that. But they have to be attracted to you as well.
Not talking about escorts moonlighting on Seeking, but from what I can tell, SB's are not complete dummies, they want the csh. They assume your posted Seeking age is off by 5-10 years (or more) depending on how old you really are and what YOU think you can get away with. Same with your pics and how extensive is your "Dad bod". If they think you are decent then they almost always negotiate the price upfront. I've only had two not ask what is my gift, we met, fucked, they were both inexperienced on SA, and shy to ask for cash but I just gave them $400. Both were amazed to get $400. Both in the future never asked for money. Too bad eventually they both just randomly disappeared.
 
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I've seen a number of girls when browsing through Seeking that I've seen as SP's, though this time there's face pictures, of course.
Would be curious if their SB rate aligned with their SP rate or what the difference would be.

Yeah agree with above that most girls (not all, but most) would be very happy with 500. A few times with me they have suggested 5,
I've said that I normally go with 3, so could we meet in the middle at 400? They've all been more than happy to do that. Case by case
basis of course, but Toronto is expensive so if they like you they want to make a deal.
 
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I find with sugar that I usually only see once and have quite a bit of texting that leads up to the first encounter to get to know one another.

The process, although it takes time, is quite addictive. I met a 19 year old about a month ago who works as a server. Super hot, about 5'1". Absolutely amazing DFK in the back of my car and she was so fucking horny it wasn't funny.... she climbed on top, my pants and underwear were down, I'm being smothered with full teen lips and tongue, she moved her panties to one side and started rubbing her soaking wet P over my C and had this cute high pitched little moan/squeak.
It was just like when we were all horny teens back in the day. And then she said "I want you to put it in me".... seriously it was as exciting as being 19 yourself again I was absolutely in awe she was so into it.

That's why it's hard to not keep seeing some of them I guess.
im just curious, would you be paying more for sugar , also spending more time with them than the sp to get the "sex" experience?
 

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shack

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💯 agree. If you are good looking, a nice and fun person, in great shape with a six pack still and are good with giving 500 each time you meet, you can pretty much smash any girl for 2-3 hours as a SB. Tons and tons of hot young girls that would be willing to do that. But they have to be attracted to you as well.
I'm old, short, pot belly and never pay over $400. I've got 2 on the go right now. 19 and 20. One stays overnight, the other 7-8 hours during the day.

Charm, wit, respect. There's more than one way to skin a cat and still spend less.
 

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I'm old, short, pot belly and never pay over $400. I've got 2 on the go right now. 19 and 20. One stays overnight, the other 7-8 hours during the day.

Charm, wit, respect. There's more than one way to skin a cat and still spend less.
But if I recall correctly you’ve also have been doing black girls. They often complain on Reddit that they are at a disadvantage across Canada and USA as their market is most over saturated and as a result they routinely agree to less.
 

FunInToronto2023

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im just curious, would you be paying more for sugar , also spending more time with them than the sp to get the "sex" experience?
it would depend on your arrangement, some I’ve seen have definitely been more romantic than a SP situation, like overnight at a hotel and order room service. Smash several times but there’s a lot more connection than an sp and only 200-300 for the night
 
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