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At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm somewhat reluctant.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.
Have you met her in person yet for a M&G?
 

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At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm telling you guys, not her, that I'm somewhat reluctant, even at a $200 risk.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.
Not a good convo to have over text. You may have blown it already. generally Id say buy her a drink and possibly a dinner first if you want to discuss details like this and get a feel whether she is a scammer or is afraid to be scammed by you.

the 200 upfront situation reminds me of a money tearing scene from eyes wide shut. That was a proper way to deal with it!

And 400 for a girl like that is cheap anyway and she can find an offer of 500 or more in her inbox any time so if you are stood up don’t be surprised.
 

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At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm telling you guys, not her, that I'm somewhat reluctant, even at a $200 risk.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.
Personally I’d say no to the 50:50 until you’ve met in person. If she flakes you know it was never going to happen, and if you do meet and greet you cane get a vibe from the girl.
 
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Personally I’d say no to the 50:50 until you’ve met in person. If she flakes you know it was never going to happen, and if you do meet and greet you cane get a vibe from the girl.
I would never discuss 50-50 or “money first then sex” over text. I’d simply say I’m not in this to rob you but I would 100% want a meet and greet in this scenario (or in any scenario really).

But for the record I did hear from my SBs how they were cheated. And it’s always the nicest girls. Ugh. But in none of those scenarios money were on the table. So that would be my ultimate solution as eyes wide shut one seems a bit too dramatic.
 
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At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm telling you guys, not her, that I'm somewhat reluctant, even at a $200 risk.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.
If she asking what DFK or cover for oral means I think she not a pro escort. Doesn’t rule a scammer who could just take the money and run.
I would do a short M&G or video chat and get a vibe from her first and make sure there no red flags
 

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Does She Have TRANSACTIONAL -OR- VALIDATIONAL Sex With You? ( KNOW The DIFFERENCE!!! )

 

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Does She Have TRANSACTIONAL -OR- VALIDATIONAL Sex With You? ( KNOW The DIFFERENCE!!! )

I started watching and caught myself hoping he’s gonna get a seatbelt ticket before the end of the video 😂
 

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At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm telling you guys, not her, that I'm somewhat reluctant, even at a $200 risk.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.

IMO, if she was not a pro, and was a sincere, authentic newcomer sb, you blew it by speaking to her in hooker/john language.

Half up front and showing her the other half was there is reasonable. I've heard of girls who have seemingly hit it off really good with a guy , they have sex then he acts indignant having to pay, thinking they had 'something special'. LOTS of scammers like that preying on less than savvy girls.

Agree to to the 50/50 online/text and see what kind of vibe you get from her in person. Then decide if she is going to have to go tend to a "family emergency' or otherwise have any idea she is going to flake otu. I doubt that if she has gone that far to have met , talked, meet and greet, social time and then be in your bedroom with a positive vibe, she's going to run off with $200 if there is $400 available for having some fun, with the possibility of a future.

Be aware, but don't treat them as professional working girls until such time as they make it clear they are... or you get authentic clues she is is. Even then, sometimes it's best to let them play out being a good girl gone bad for a night.

I'm pretty good at reading scammers so that's just my opinion. 🤷‍♂️
 

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IMO, if she was not a pro, and was a sincere, authentic newcomer sb, you blew it by speaking to her in hooker/john language.
That was the purpose. Once she asked for money up front, my antennae went up and I wanted to be more certain. If she was a civvie, she most likely wouldn't know that it's hooker talk. I had one case where a potential SB insisted that we meet at her place, which I didn't want to do. So I said to her, "So you don't do outcall? Only incall?" She replied, "That's right." No more doubts for me. I eventually told her that only a sex worker would know that. I laughed under my breath as she denied it.

Half up front and showing her the other half was there is reasonable. I've heard of girls who have seemingly hit it off really good with a guy , they have sex then he acts indignant having to pay, thinking they had 'something special'. LOTS of scammers like that preying on less than savvy girls.

Agree to to the 50/50 online/text and see what kind of vibe you get from her in person. Then decide if she is going to have to go tend to a "family emergency' or otherwise have any idea she is going to flake otu. I doubt that if she has gone that far to have met , talked, meet and greet, social time and then be in your bedroom with a positive vibe, she's going to run off with $200 if there is $400 available for having some fun, with the possibility of a future.
OK, I'll go for it. $200 is not the end of the world, but I hate being scammed. It's just text, but I still picked up a good vibe from her. I was thinking that if she wants the $200 once we start, I should stuff the money down my pants. LOL.

Be aware, but don't treat them as professional working girls
Always the gentleman. When she texted me yesterday, she asked if she should wear jeans and a crop top or a one piece. I told her since this is date #1 she should wear the one piece. My actual thinking was that sliding my hand up her dress would be easier than getting her jeans off. LOL

I digress. She said she has a sexy slit leg one piece that is elegant as well. I replied that I'll wear ratty gym shorts and smelly sneakers. Then, "JK. I'll present myself as a classic gentleman."

I'm pretty good at reading scammers so that's just my opinion. 🤷‍♂️
I appreciate your input. It sounds reasonable.
 
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IMO, if she was not a pro, and was a sincere, authentic newcomer sb, you blew it by speaking to her in hooker/john language.

Be aware, but don't treat them as professional working girls until such time as they make it clear they are... or you get authentic clues she is is. Even then, sometimes it's best to let them play out being a good girl gone bad for a night.

I'm pretty good at reading scammers so that's just my opinion. 🤷‍♂️
People can't seem to read people that well. I seen both genders fail at this specially Narcissist.

Most women don't want the label of SP ( or what ever) I notice. Although it is SP line.
Also they want a date but a small dinner would make it look like it is not an SP event. It looks like a DATE.
People have weird delusion minds, this has been going on since Eve's time. So it would be smart to play along their narrative story line, if you are getting laid for a bargain price or just have fun for their "EXCITEMENT". It is like an Adrenaline rush.

You can outed them if you want but expect them to walk away.

I Don't understand MEN what do you gain by Outing them? Like you if out them you are not mature enough then, but if you speak in a certain way the SB will out herself.
IF you out them is The Archangel of Stupid going to appear before you and crown you with a Dunce hat?

I seen women die their skin "WHITE" in Mexico although they are a mix of White / Mexican, but wanted more white. Do you think it would be smart to say - you are not white enough?
 

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I seen women die their skin "WHITE" in Mexico although they are a mix of White / Mexican, but wanted more white. Do you think it would be smart to say - you are not white enough?
I like asking brunettes why so many blondes dye their roots black
 

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The other day, I was chatting with a very cute 19 year old Asian. The prospects were looking good and then she hits me with her sob story that she has a deadline for tuition and she'll get kicked out of school unless she comes up with $1,000 and could I please help as both her parents were dead and she has nobody to turn to. I simply said that I don't send money to someone I've never met, a stranger. I said I've been burned too many times before. I can give you money if we meet. She pleaded and begged and made meaningless promises. Finally she quit and just said, "I'm screwed."

If she needed money so bad, why wouldn't she meet?
🤣🤣. We met the same girl!!! She goes to Cambrian?
 

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IMO, if she was not a pro, and was a sincere, authentic newcomer sb, you blew it by speaking to her in hooker/john language.

Half up front and showing her the other half was there is reasonable. I've heard of girls who have seemingly hit it off really good with a guy , they have sex then he acts indignant having to pay, thinking they had 'something special'. LOTS of scammers like that preying on less than savvy girls.

Agree to to the 50/50 online/text and see what kind of vibe you get from her in person. Then decide if she is going to have to go tend to a "family emergency' or otherwise have any idea she is going to flake otu. I doubt that if she has gone that far to have met , talked, meet and greet, social time and then be in your bedroom with a positive vibe, she's going to run off with $200 if there is $400 available for having some fun, with the possibility of a future.

Be aware, but don't treat them as professional working girls until such time as they make it clear they are... or you get authentic clues she is is. Even then, sometimes it's best to let them play out being a good girl gone bad for a night.

I'm pretty good at reading scammers so that's just my opinion. 🤷‍♂️
Good points here about using the same direct language and questions as you would with an SP. As much as the SB world is similar to seeing escorts, the way a guy should play the game is very different IMO. Be a gentleman, and don’t us the hooker language or acronyms with sugar girls. Take your chances with things like DFK and BBBJ’s find out the answers when you’re getting naked and happy, and repeat if you like what you get. I’ve never had an SB who doesn’t do either BTW. It’s the pro’s who are more careful, they see way more guys and their risks are proportionately higher as a result.
 

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Good points here about using the same direct language and questions as you would with an SP. As much as the SB world is similar to seeing escorts, the way a guy should play the game is very different IMO. Be a gentleman, and don’t us the hooker language or acronyms with sugar girls. Take your chances with things like DFK and BBBJ’s find out the answers when you’re getting naked and happy, and repeat if you like what you get. I’ve never had an SB who doesn’t do either BTW. It’s the pro’s who are more careful, they see way more guys and their risks are proportionately higher as a result.
Acronyms are def a no no but I must admit I sometimes like using a word “civilian” with them though. That look on their faces when they realize they are not really civilian anymore is priceless
 

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Hmm this one is unusually dumb indeed.
My somewhat recent weird encounter was a meet and greet (and ppm had been discussed and agreed to prior to it). During drinks I asked her if she was in the mood to seduce me today or if she wants to keep today platonic to which she responded that usually it takes four dates to consummate the relationship with her. I couldn’t believe what I heard. I’m like: why four? isn’t it pretty much three dates even in civilian culture? I told her that had I had patience for four platonic dates I’d be on Christin mingle. She then asked for some money for the meet and greet. While I could comp a honest prospective sb I had no desire to encourage the four dates behaviour and I plainly told her so. I reminded her that the one and only number we had discussed was $500 ppm and I had it in writing and she cannot tell me that she was hoping to make half a grand for having drinks with me. She said: “ but of course I’m asking you for less than that now”. I said “but why do you think that you provided any value? As far as I am concerned we had a deal, you reneged, we both wasted our time. Why do I owe you now and not the vice versa? Besides, I don’t want you to think that you can do this to other people” With that I paid our bill and bowed out…
I can’t help but wonder that a legitimate SB scam is the meet and greet payment.
I have met a few potentials that way and have kicked myself twice.
The dates were both very short and there was obviously zero interest from the start.
This behaviour can be repeated with multiple guys without consequence.

I have never paid since and will never pay again for an initial non sexual meet.

Legitimate interest in meeting because of a mutual desire in forming a true arrangement should never be paid. period.

If you just want to get laid, SPs are by far your best option.
 
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You are just straight up lying lol. Stop this man it’s sad.
Hey man, wtf - Rule 5 - no posting PMs publicly.
5. No disclosing private communications. PMs may only be forwarded and disclosed to Moderators if they contain anything offensive or require the attention of Moderators.

You also apparently and conveniently left out where you shit talked to him after he said no to your clearly absurd request, misinterpretation or not.
 
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Does She Have TRANSACTIONAL -OR- VALIDATIONAL Sex With You? ( KNOW The DIFFERENCE!!! )

Has some good points but I would argue that with transactional we pay for discretion and woman will leaves us alone. Some women who requires much validation for sex are unstable and drama queens and can cause trouble for the dude
I find that validation sex can be very dependent on the girls mood and can be very good or lacking. Transaction sex tends to be more consistent
 
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