Sugar Dating Experience

[josephkuhr]

You asked for their contact information. Not their profile names. Do you not see how this would be odd? Asking a random stranger on a escort board for a sbs information to be given to a random individual? This is not the first time it has happened. I get these intrusive msgs frequently.

Sps are different. They advertise as sps. Some do more things than others. Last time I checked I have reviewed women and given feedback at a moderate rate.

I dont see you posting any reviews of sps.

You are just straight up lying lol. Stop this man it’s sad.

 

[rocco_s]

You are just straight up lying lol. Stop this man it’s sad.

Contact information means their number to the lamen person.

Or am I supposed to assume and read your mind to mean their sa profile to sceenshot to msg you?

 

[josephkuhr]

Contact information means their number to the lamen person.

Or am I supposed to assume and read your mind to mean their sa profile to sceenshot to msg you?

Ok. Let’s just leave this at a misunderstanding and move on. No hard feelings dude.

 

[shack]

Hmm this one is unusually dumb indeed.
My somewhat recent weird encounter was a meet and greet (and ppm had been discussed and agreed to prior to it). During drinks I asked her if she was in the mood to seduce me today or if she wants to keep today platonic to which she responded that usually it takes four dates to consummate the relationship with her. I couldn’t believe what I heard. I’m like: why four? isn’t it pretty much three dates even in civilian culture? I told her that had I had patience for four platonic dates I’d be on Christin mingle. She then asked for some money for the meet and greet. While I could comp a honest prospective sb I had no desire to encourage the four dates behaviour and I plainly told her so. I reminded her that the one and only number we had discussed was $500 ppm and I had it in writing and she cannot tell me that she was hoping to make half a grand for having drinks with me. She said: “ but of course I’m asking you for less than that now”. I said “but why do you think that you provided any value? As far as I am concerned we had a deal, you reneged, we both wasted our time. Why do I owe you now and not the vice versa? Besides, I don’t want you to think that you can do this to other people” With that I paid our bill and bowed out…

I commonly say, when asked how much I'm willing to pay, I say that I don't know because I haven't met you. Neither of us has any idea if there's any attraction. If you'd like we can meet for drinks and/or dinner to see if there is some attraction and if so to discuss further details of an arrangement including financials. At that point, I make it known that there is no money paid unless we consummate the arrangement that evening and I'd pay the amount agreed upon.

The other day, I was chatting with a very cute 19 year old Asian. The prospects were looking good and then she hits me with her sob story that she has a deadline for tuition and she'll get kicked out of school unless she comes up with $1,000 and could I please help as both her parents were dead and she has nobody to turn to. I simply said that I don't send money to someone I've never met, a stranger. I said I've been burned too many times before. I can give you money if we meet. She pleaded and begged and made meaningless promises. Finally she quit and just said, "I'm screwed."

If she needed money so bad, why wouldn't she meet?

 

[Leimonis]

I commonly say, when asked how much I'm willing to pay, I say that I don't know because I haven't met you. Neither of us has any idea if there's any attraction. If you'd like we can meet for drinks and/or dinner to see if there is some attraction and if so to discuss further details of an arrangement including financials. At that point, I make it known that there is no money paid unless we consummate the arrangement that evening and I'd pay the amount agreed upon.

The other day, I was chatting with a very cute 19 year old Asian. The prospects were looking good and then she hits me with her sob story that she has a deadline for tuition and she'll get kicked out of school unless she comes up with $1,000 and could I please help as both her parents were dead and she has nobody to turn to. I simply said that I don't send money to someone I've never met, a stranger. I said I've been burned too many times before. I can give you money if we meet. She pleaded and begged and made meaningless promises. Finally she quit and just said, "I'm screwed."

If she needed money so bad, why wouldn't she meet?

i stopped engaging 19yo. Either scams or toe dippers and even if not, probably bad karma bc they are too young to be doing it anyway. Also flaky and delusional.

edit - asian SBs seem to have higher than average share of scams going on.
maybe because scammers believe that daddies who have yellow fever are particularly stupid or too obsessed to think straight?

 

[rocco_s]

I commonly say, when asked how much I'm willing to pay, I say that I don't know because I haven't met you. Neither of us has any idea if there's any attraction. If you'd like we can meet for drinks and/or dinner to see if there is some attraction and if so to discuss further details of an arrangement including financials. At that point, I make it known that there is no money paid unless we consummate the arrangement that evening and I'd pay the amount agreed upon.

The other day, I was chatting with a very cute 19 year old Asian. The prospects were looking good and then she hits me with her sob story that she has a deadline for tuition and she'll get kicked out of school unless she comes up with $1,000 and could I please help as both her parents were dead and she has nobody to turn to. I simply said that I don't send money to someone I've never met, a stranger. I said I've been burned too many times before. I can give you money if we meet. She pleaded and begged and made meaningless promises. Finally she quit and just said, "I'm screwed."

If she needed money so bad, why wouldn't she meet?

When I know it a scam I usually end up trolling them. I use a burner number however. It's pretty good entertainment though.

 

[shack]

edit - asian SBs seem to have higher than average share of scams going on.
maybe because scammers believe that daddies who have yellow fever are particularly stupid or too obsessed to think straight?

It is amazing how many profiles of Asian women are all the same:

Only one picture
Immaculately dressed
Luxurious surroundings
Professionally taken pic
Woman is beautiful
Woman is 34-37 years according to profile
Woman in pic looks no older than 23-26 years
Profile always talks about finding true love
Profile always includes deep spiritual ideals
Woman is usually well-travelled

 

[Param2000]

I am so glad I found this thread!
Been on SA since 2019. Multiple countries. Had a very good long term with a member (not in Canada) in 2020 and then again in 22 (in Canada). Mostly single MILFs (my type) and there is conversation and NSA sex.
Recently I am seeing a trend where members would enter an arrangement on a ppm basis, meet in a hotel, I generally pay allowance upfront, to get it out of the way, and they then decline having sex with " I can't have sex on a first date. I am not an escort" narrative.
One even went to kissing and cuddles and then said " Can we stop?" . It was so embarassing to stuff that boner back in the pants. On another instance, we agree to get intimate on first date via sms earlier, but she later plainly declines after receiving funds saying " I don't have sex on first dates!"
This has happened with me twice following which I deleted my account on SA.

I am average looking but had some amazing first date sex. Sometimes bodies dont vibe so I move on. No one is treating you "like an escort" !

I suspect this is a new type of scam. I am traumatized by sex being weaponized all my life in relationships. But this is another level!

 

[Tony2000]

I am so glad I found this thread!
Been on SA since 2019. Multiple countries. Had a very good long term with a member (not in Canada) in 2020 and then again in 22 (in Canada). Mostly single MILFs (my type) and there is conversation and NSA sex.
Recently I am seeing a trend where members would enter an arrangement on a ppm basis, meet in a hotel, I generally pay allowance upfront, to get it out of the way, and they then decline having sex with " I can't have sex on a first date. I am not an escort" narrative.
One even went to kissing and cuddles and then said " Can we stop?" . It was so embarassing to stuff that boner back in the pants. On another instance, we agree to get intimate on first date via sms earlier, but she later plainly declines after receiving funds saying " I don't have sex on first dates!"
This has happened with me twice following which I deleted my account on SA.

I am average looking but had some amazing first date sex. Sometimes bodies dont vibe so I move on. No one is treating you "like an escort" !

I suspect this is a new type of scam. I am traumatized by sex being weaponized all my life in relationships. But this is another level!

Personally, I have not had this happen but it seems like a scam. They get you to hand over the cash and then bail. They were probably planning this all along - it has nothing to do with how the meeting is going or your looks.

 

[Leimonis]

I am so glad I found this thread!
Been on SA since 2019. Multiple countries. Had a very good long term with a member (not in Canada) in 2020 and then again in 22 (in Canada). Mostly single MILFs (my type) and there is conversation and NSA sex.
Recently I am seeing a trend where members would enter an arrangement on a ppm basis, meet in a hotel, I generally pay allowance upfront, to get it out of the way, and they then decline having sex with " I can't have sex on a first date. I am not an escort" narrative.
One even went to kissing and cuddles and then said " Can we stop?" . It was so embarassing to stuff that boner back in the pants. On another instance, we agree to get intimate on first date via sms earlier, but she later plainly declines after receiving funds saying " I don't have sex on first dates!"
This has happened with me twice following which I deleted my account on SA.

I am average looking but had some amazing first date sex. Sometimes bodies dont vibe so I move on. No one is treating you "like an escort" !

I suspect this is a new type of scam. I am traumatized by sex being weaponized all my life in relationships. But this is another level!

Some of your dates may have been scammers but more sounds like simply delusional rookies. I have a few suggestions.
1. Do one platonic meet and greet before taking them to a hotel. Scammers consider it a waste of time and will show their true colours. A delusional rookie would also have to show her cards when she realizes that a platonic date is not a paid date.
2. don’t do girls under 23 or so unless it’s patently obvious they know what they want and what they are doing.
3. Take them to your place if you can. A hotel date feels escorty and a girl is kinda entitled to ask for money up front and then she can bail. At your place you can simply say: I won’t rob you in my own house. I’ll put the money on the dresser and you take it before leaving.

 

[shack]

Recently I am seeing a trend where members would enter an arrangement on a ppm basis, meet in a hotel, I generally pay allowance upfront, to get it out of the way, and they then decline having sex with " I can't have sex on a first date. I am not an escort" narrative.
One even went to kissing and cuddles and then said " Can we stop?" . It was so embarassing to stuff that boner back in the pants. On another instance, we agree to get intimate on first date via sms earlier, but she later plainly declines after receiving funds saying " I don't have sex on first dates!"
This has happened with me twice following which I deleted my account on SA.

At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm telling you guys, not her, that I'm somewhat reluctant, even at a $200 risk.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.

 

[GeeBee]

Some of your dates may have been scammers but more sounds like simply delusional rookies. I have a few suggestions.
1. Do one platonic meet and greet before taking them to a hotel. Scammers consider it a waste of time and will show their true colours. A delusional rookie would also have to show her cards when she realizes that a platonic date is not a paid date.
2. don’t do girls under 23 or so unless it’s patently obvious they know what they want and what they are doing.
3. Take them to your place if you can. A hotel date feels escorty and a girl is kinda entitled to ask for money up front and then she can bail. At your place you can simply say: I won’t rob you in my own house. I’ll put the money on the dresser and you take it before leaving.

Agree with all of the above, other than the hotel bit. I can’t host at home so I’ve never had the option, but the girls I’ve seen seem to be most comfortable in a hotel for the first sexual date. Kind of neutral ground. But I haven't experienced this new phenomenon of no sex on the first date when It’s actually the second.

Absolutely the meet and greet, or even the suggestion of it, weeds out scammers and the delusional. Bring up the subject over drinks or coffee and make sure she knows this is a sexual arrangement, that’s all you can really do to avoid it, but nothing is foolproof I guess.

 

[GeeBee]

At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm somewhat reluctant.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.

Have you met her in person yet for a M&G?

 

[Leimonis]

At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm telling you guys, not her, that I'm somewhat reluctant, even at a $200 risk.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.

Not a good convo to have over text. You may have blown it already. generally Id say buy her a drink and possibly a dinner first if you want to discuss details like this and get a feel whether she is a scammer or is afraid to be scammed by you.

the 200 upfront situation reminds me of a money tearing scene from eyes wide shut. That was a proper way to deal with it!

And 400 for a girl like that is cheap anyway and she can find an offer of 500 or more in her inbox any time so if you are stood up don’t be surprised.

 

[GeeBee]

At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm telling you guys, not her, that I'm somewhat reluctant, even at a $200 risk.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.

Personally I’d say no to the 50:50 until you’ve met in person. If she flakes you know it was never going to happen, and if you do meet and greet you cane get a vibe from the girl.

 

[Leimonis]

Personally I’d say no to the 50:50 until you’ve met in person. If she flakes you know it was never going to happen, and if you do meet and greet you cane get a vibe from the girl.

I would never discuss 50-50 or “money first then sex” over text. I’d simply say I’m not in this to rob you but I would 100% want a meet and greet in this scenario (or in any scenario really).

But for the record I did hear from my SBs how they were cheated. And it’s always the nicest girls. Ugh. But in none of those scenarios money were on the table. So that would be my ultimate solution as eyes wide shut one seems a bit too dramatic.

 

[dchoye]

At this very moment in time, lol, I am in discussion with a tall, slinky and sultry 21 year old blonde. We have agreed upon $400 for a 3 hour date tomorrow evening.

Yesterday evening she says that once we start getting our hands on each other, the allowance will be due. I said that I don't pay until the end of the date. She messaged me just now saying we could do half at the beginning and half at the end. I told her that I need to think about it. I'm telling you guys, not her, that I'm somewhat reluctant, even at a $200 risk.

I figured that now would be a good time to ask if she's into DFK and if a cover is required for oral. She messaged back asking what is DFK and could I explain what I meant about a cover for oral. I don't know if those were serious questions or if she was just being coy. IMO, somebody who wants the money at the beginning sounds like a pro, because that is how it works when you're seeing a SP. Most actual SBs don't do that. I replied to her queries but have not heard back yet.

For my fellow TERBites, should I go for the 50:50 or not? She looks really hot. If she says no to either of the DFK or BBBJ, it's a definite pass for me. If she agrees to both, I have a decision to make.

If she asking what DFK or cover for oral means I think she not a pro escort. Doesn’t rule a scammer who could just take the money and run.
I would do a short M&G or video chat and get a vibe from her first and make sure there no red flags

 

[shack]

Have you met her in person yet for a M&G?

Nope.

She agreed to DFK and BBBJ. She doesn't like the taste of plastic, as she put it. LOL.

 

[xix]

Does She Have TRANSACTIONAL -OR- VALIDATIONAL Sex With You? ( KNOW The DIFFERENCE!!! )

 

[Leimonis]

Does She Have TRANSACTIONAL -OR- VALIDATIONAL Sex With You? ( KNOW The DIFFERENCE!!! )

I started watching and caught myself hoping he’s gonna get a seatbelt ticket before the end of the video