#STANDWITHTRUDEAU

[bver_hunter]

you can't solely blame this on unvaxxed...those numbers were back when there was no vaccine. the hospital staff were the first to get vaxxed and nobody knows who infected them or the patients or the senior homes for that matter. the virus spread among vaxxed and unvaxxed...most of the vaxxed are the ones going to the restaurants, movies etc etc because of their proof of vaccine...nobody can force anybody to take the vaccine...you may think I side with the unvaxxed, I don't. I agree with the restrictions...you're unvaxxed you can't go to restaurants etc etc...but you can't force them to take the jab.

As You are aware, the vaccines were not available until the start of 2021. These unvaxxed ones were always against all sorts of mandates from day 1 of the Pandemic. However, the Essential workers got infected and paid the price with their lives, although they took many precautions. To add fodder to the cattle, these anti-vaxxers were the ones harassing these Healthcare workers when they protested in at times a violent manner close to the hospitals and clinics. Was that not adding to the stress for these Healthcare workers?
Well no one is forcing anyone to be vaccinated. There are no guns held to any heads. However, for the safety of all the Canadians, these mandates were brought into place. If they do not want to conform, then find an occupation or a job that is acceptable to your status as an unvaccinated individual!!

 

[bver_hunter]

At the peak of the pandemic the hospital in my town had 2 covid patients and an empty icu. Toronto hospitals were full and they refused to transfer patients so they could keep the appearance of looking full.

Bullshit lies.

So you are saying that the was a Conspiracy theory by the Toronto Hospitals? Hilarious!!

 

[simon482]

So you are staying that the was a Conspiracy theory by the Toronto Hospitals? Hilarious!!

Not a conspiracy. A lie.

 

[bver_hunter]

Reread the question.

(without regard to whether they will be conducting their protest in a lawful way).
How do you justify prohibiting protests that break no traffic criminal or other laws?

Scrutinize what You are saying in the first place!!

But then this is getting to be similar to the debate with Bud Plug pleading the Innocence of James Fields!!

 

[Butler1000]

Bullshit hospitals were full. The heavy city population area hospitals were full. Where I live the hospitals were empty. Every day I hear "our hospitals are at capacity, we're making tents in parking lots" yet small town were empty.

Our hospitals since long before this were either overwhelmed or on the brink of being overwhelmed. So that's a bullshit excuse to deny Canadians their right to Healthcare.

Um, do you realize how dangerous and difficult it is to move an ICU patient?

 

[simon482]

Um, do you realize how dangerous and difficult it is to move an ICU patient?

They had no problem moving one from Saskatchewan to my town. From Toronto would be easier.

Saying all hospitals are overwhelmed when a select few were is a lie.

Saying this hasn't happened before covid is a lie.

 

[bver_hunter]

Not a conspiracy. A lie.

So who was lying?

1) The Hospitals Themselves
2) The Mayor of Toronto
3) The Provincial Government, including The Premier
4) MSM
5) The Provincial Health Experts

 

[simon482]

So who was lying?

1) The Hospitals Themselves
2) The Mayor of Toronto
3) The Provincial Government, including The Premier
4) MSM
5) The Provincial Health Experts

The hospitals that were full weren't lying.

The people that said the whole system was overloaded and we're building tents because there's no room were lying.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Scrutinize what You are saying in the first place!!

But then this is getting to be similar to the debate with Bud Plug pleading the Innocence of James Fields!!

Interesting. I thought you would be able to read the question if you had 2 tries. No such luck.

 

[bver_hunter]

The hospitals that were full weren't lying.

The people that said the whole system was overloaded and we're building tents because there's no room were lying.

So the hospitals were listening to the "people" who stated so. Who are these "people"?

 

[bver_hunter]

Interesting. I thought you would be able to read the question if you had 2 tries. No such luck.

Once again sounding like Bud plug again with baseless allegations!!

 

[Dutch Oven]

When have You answered the questions that I posed in the first place? But when I point out the flaws in your statement, well You really hate it don't you?

Beaver, I always ignore your ravings. I was only interested in what the Liberal party line was going to be about their unconstitutional prohibition of lawful protesting in Ottawa.

Nothing you do inspires hate. I can’t take your seriously enough for that!

 

[simon482]

So the hospitals were listening to the "people" who stated so. Who are these "people"?

Ford said it, the media said it, small brains repeated it.

But ford also said he's building the first hospital in Ontario in 40 years and small brains believed that too.

 

[mandrill]

So you're telling me if i don't get the flu shot, I can't go to the doctor to be treated if I get the flu?

How tf did you get THAT from what I actually wrote?!

 

[mandrill]

So why are healthy people having their movements restricted.
Send the sick off to colonies like you suggest or at the very least tell the sick to stay home.

Simon, it's like debating w a 3 year old!

The healthy have their movements restricted because they haven't taken precautions against becoming infected and having serious consequences if they DO get infected. You KNOW this shit already. It's been stated in convos on this board LITERALLY over a 100 times. You still ask.

 

[bver_hunter]

Beaver, I always ignore your ravings. I was only interested in what the Liberal party line was going to be about their unconstitutional prohibition of lawful protesting in Ottawa.

Nothing you do inspires hate. I can’t take your seriously enough for that!

Listen Dutch Bud Plug, You can go on and on with your rants. When we have a bunch of protesters that have blockaded the most vital Ports of entry to Canada that has costed the economy almost $4 billion in trade and provincial Governments of all stripes had to enforce their Emergency Acts to try to clear it, then this is nothing about "Lawful protesting". Moreover, they have blockaded Ottawa for 3 weeks now, resulting in misery for the residents of that City. There are businesses that are suffering as a result of having to shut. Can You not comprehend this very basic issue. these citizens have not been able to even sleep peacefully for the past 3 weeks and their streets have been taken over. They are suffering and so it is time for this Emergency Act to be enforced. Yes nothing I do inspires Hate. Thanks for that statement as I am totally against hate and believe in Peaceful existence for All!! But You cannot take My Faith and Beliefs in True Peace and Happiness, so that is Your Problem!!

 

[simon482]

Simon, it's like debating w a 3 year old!

The healthy have their movements restricted because they haven't taken precautions against becoming infected and having serious consequences if they DO get infected. You KNOW this shit already. It's been stated in convos on this board LITERALLY over a 100 times. You still ask.

I don't know how you survived to this point with not being locked up as a healthy person.

Quarantining healthy people and restricting their movements is completely asinine.

I'm triple shot and healthy yet my movements were restricted.

 

[mandrill]

I don't know how you survived to this point with not being locked up as a healthy person.
Quarantining healthy people and restricting their movements is completely asinine.

You probably have difficulties following the plot of any show that is even slightly more complex than an episode of Paw Patrol as well.

SMH.

 

[simon482]

You probably have difficulties following the plot of any show that is even slightly more complex than an episode of Paw Patrol as well.

SMH.

Exactly the response I was expecting from a small brain.

 

[bver_hunter]

Ford said it, the media said it, small brains repeated it.

But ford also said he's building the first hospital in Ontario in 40 years and small brains believed that too.

Ford even said that he would reduce our electricity prices by 12% and it in fact has gone up by over 4%. I do not take him seriously, unless he goes by the script of the T rue health experts.
But when The Essential workers as well as the Medical experts within the hospitals have categorically stated that their hospitals have been overwhelmed and their ICU beds filled to capacity then I go by their word. Why did You not request Your Hospitals to help out? But post a true link where Your hospitals stated that they have all the available capacities to cope with the overfill from other hospitals. Did they at least help out for procedures such as Cancer Treatment from other hospitals?