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richaceg

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No they don't.

I contract an STD. I refuse to take treatment to cure that STD. Are you telling me that I can then go around having sex with other people?

If the disease is contagious, government has the right to restrict its spread. Goes back to the 1100's when lepers had to live in leper colonies and not mingle with the healthy. It's a time-honoured, core government power.
is that what they're doing? C'mon now...they did not contract anything....are they going around infecting people? they're simple not taking the vaccine which doesn't stop the virus from spreading...
 

bver_hunter

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Only the dumbest would fail to understand that the flag in the background is accusing the Canadian government of being Nazi, not espousing that Nazi principles should govern Canada. Do you count yourself among that co-hort?

It’s the same flimsy lie that your Pied Piper Trudeau is using to claim that a Jewish MP supports Nazis.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
See how You twist and turn the whole facts. Typical Bud Plug at play. ROTFLMAO!!
Clearly, the FreeDumb Convoy then resorted to damage control to try and give everyone the impression that they did not support such flags etc later on. Otherwise, why will even this Dumb MP try to disassociate himself from that flag. Show us anywhere in that statement of Trudeau's where he accused this Jewish MP of supporting those despicable ones with the Neo Nazis. Trudeau rightly pointed out that there were MPs present during this particular protest where the Nazi Flags were in the background. But you are living in a cocoon to think that this Emergency Powers that have affected the lives of those residents of Ottawa for almost 4 weeks as well as costed the Canadian economy Billions of dollars in the flow of Food and other Essential items such as Medicines, Car parts etc are in anyway a "Nazi Principle"!!

But like Bud Plug, keep on supporting the extreme right wing:

 
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Dutch Oven

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See how You twist and turn the whole facts. Typical Bud Plug at play. ROTFLMAO!!
Clearly, the FreeDumb Convoy then resorted to damage control to try and give everyone the impression that they did not support such flags etc later on. Otherwise, why will even this Dumb MP try to disassociate himself from that flag. Show us anywhere in that statement of Trudeau's where he accused this Jewish MP of supporting those despicable ones with the Neo Nazis. Trudeau rightly pointed out that there were MPs present during this particular protest where the Nazi Flags were in the background. But you are living in a cocoon to think that this Emergency Powers that have affected the lives of those residents of Ottawa for almost 4 weeks as well as costed the Canadian economy Billions of dollars in the flow of Food and other Essential items such as Medicines, Car parts etc are in anyway a "Nazi Principle"!!

But like Bud Plug, keep on supporting the extreme right wing:

Consider yourself counted!
 

Dutch Oven

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So You finally admit that You support the Extreme Right!!
Hey Beaver

I‘d be interested in a Liberal fart catcher’s opinion on the notice being circulated by Ottawa police to protesters. It says the Emergency Act is being used to prevent protesters from travelling to Ottawa (without regard to whether they will be conducting their protest in a lawful way).

What’s the official Liberal party playbook say about that one? I thought Trudeau said he’d only exercise powers under the Act that are consistent with the Charter. How do you justify prohibiting protests that break no traffic criminal or other laws?
 

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is that what they're doing? C'mon now...they did not contract anything....are they going around infecting people? they're simple not taking the vaccine which doesn't stop the virus from spreading...
Same principle.

No one asks to get AIDS or gonorrhea either.

If you're seriously sick and contagious, there are regulations that apply to you and you have to obey them.
 
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why should there be consequences to refuse the vax? people have every right what to do with their body...
Because it has impacts on the rest of us.
Ontario has a massive backlog of surgeries because of the pandemic, the more anti vaxxers that end up in hospitals the longer it takes to get through those and the more expensive it is.

If you could get anti-vaxxers to guarantee that they wouldn't go to hospitals or ICU's if they got sick you might be able to get more people on your side.
Otherwise we just want this stupid pandemic to end and not be prolonged by people who don't trust the jab that 96% of doctors took.
 
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bver_hunter

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Hey Beaver

I‘d be interested in a Liberal fart catcher’s opinion on the notice being circulated by Ottawa police to protesters. It says the Emergency Act is being used to prevent protesters from travelling to Ottawa (without regard to whether they will be conducting their protest in a lawful way).

What’s the official Liberal party playbook say about that one? I thought Trudeau said he’d only exercise powers under the Act that are consistent with the Charter. How do you justify prohibiting protests that break no traffic criminal or other laws?
Since when is Blockading the flow of traffic, illegally parking on streets and impeding the flow of traffic, constant honking overnight and partying on the streets supposed to be a "Protest in a lawful way"? So this is no "Traffic" Violation in your storybook? If I park on the street outside My own house at this time of the year, it is considered to be "illegal" although I am not even blocking any traffic and there are no snow ploughs out. I can then get ticketed for it. But yet you try to justify parking on streets so that it blocks the flow of traffic, and preventing the flow of traffic? Seriously? Ask the residents of Ottawa that are affected by this charade from these FreeDumb Convoy, ad they are stressed out, cannot shop for their essential items in their neighbourhoods, affected by the constant honking that impacts their sleep pattern, so the Government is 100% correct to implement this Emergency Act. Only the Conn Artist Vertives will disagree and will support the FreeDumb Convoy POV!!
 
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richaceg

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Same principle.

No one asks to get AIDS or gonorrhea either.

If you're seriously sick and contagious, there are regulations that apply to you and you have to obey them.
But they're not sick. Unvaxxed =/= infected.
 

richaceg

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Because it has impacts on the rest of us.
Ontario has a massive backlog of surgeries because of the pandemic, the more anti vaxxers that end up in hospitals the longer it takes to get through those and the more expensive it is.

If you could get anti-vaxxers to guarantee that they wouldn't go to hospitals or ICU's if they got sick you might be able to get more people on your side.
Otherwise we just want this stupid pandemic to end and not be prolonged by people who don't trust the jab that 96% of doctors took.
you can't, they have every right to receive treatment like you...they pay taxes like you do...
 

bver_hunter

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you can't, they have every right to receive treatment like you...they pay taxes like you do...
But the basic fact is that the hospitals were overwhelmed during the peak of the Pandemic. The ICUs were totally filled up. Other surgeries were postponed, including some life saving cancer surgeries. Many Essential workers were totally stressed out and several of them paid the price with their lives and serious infection that will impact them for the rest of their lives. This has resulted with many of them leaving the profession. If these ani-vaxxers were in their shoes, they would have realized the scale of their stupidity!!
 
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If the disease is contagious, government has the right to restrict its spread. Goes back to the 1100's when lepers had to live in leper colonies and not mingle with the healthy. It's a time-honoured, core government power.
So why are healthy people having their movements restricted.

Send the sick off to colonies like you suggest or at the very least tell the sick to stay home.
 
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Dutch Oven

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Since when is Blockading the flow of traffic, illegally parking on streets and impeding the flow of traffic, constant honking overnight and partying on the streets supposed to be a "Protest in a lawful way"? So this is no "Traffic" Violation in your storybook? If I park on the street outside My own house at this time of the year, it is considered to be "illegal" although I am not even blocking any traffic and there are no snow ploughs out. I can then get ticketed for it. But yet you try to justify parking on streets so that it blocks the flow of traffic, and preventing the flow of traffic? Seriously? Ask the residents of Ottawa that are affected by this charade from these FreeDumb Convoy, ad they are stressed out, cannot shop for their essential items in their neighbourhoods, affected by the constant honking that impacts their sleep pattern, so the Government is 100% correct to implement this Emergency Act. Only the Conn Artist Vertives will disagree and will support the FreeDumb Convoy POV!!
Reread the question.
 

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But the basic fact is that the hospitals were overwhelmed during the peak of the Pandemic. The ICUs were totally filled up. Other surgeries were postponed, including some life saving cancer surgeries. Many Essential workers were totally stressed out and several of them paid the price with their lives and serious infection that will impact them for the rest of their lives. This has resulted with many of them leaving the profession. If these ani-vaxxers were in their shoes, they would have realized the scale of their stupidity!!
Bullshit hospitals were full. The heavy city population area hospitals were full. Where I live the hospitals were empty. Every day I hear "our hospitals are at capacity, we're making tents in parking lots" yet small town were empty.

Our hospitals since long before this were either overwhelmed or on the brink of being overwhelmed. So that's a bullshit excuse to deny Canadians their right to Healthcare.
 

richaceg

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But the basic fact is that the hospitals were overwhelmed during the peak of the Pandemic. The ICUs were totally filled up. Other surgeries were postponed, including some life saving cancer surgeries. Many Essential workers were totally stressed out and several of them paid the price with their lives and serious infection that will impact them for the rest of their lives. This has resulted with many of them leaving the profession. If these ani-vaxxers were in their shoes, they would have realized the scale of their stupidity!!
you can't solely blame this on unvaxxed...those numbers were back when there was no vaccine. the hospital staff were the first to get vaxxed and nobody knows who infected them or the patients or the senior homes for that matter. the virus spread among vaxxed and unvaxxed...most of the vaxxed are the ones going to the restaurants, movies etc etc because of their proof of vaccine...nobody can force anybody to take the vaccine...you may think I side with the unvaxxed, I don't. I agree with the restrictions...you're unvaxxed you can't go to restaurants etc etc...but you can't force them to take the jab.
 

bver_hunter

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Bullshit hospitals were full. The heavy city population area hospitals were full. Where I live the hospitals were empty. Every day I hear "our hospitals are at capacity, we're making tents in parking lots" yet small town were empty.

Our hospitals since long before this were either overwhelmed or on the brink of being overwhelmed. So that's a bullshit excuse to deny Canadians their right to Healthcare.
What nonsense are You coming up with? Maybe You are living on Mars for all we know. ROTFLMAO!!

I stated during the "Peak of the Pandemic". The Ontario Hospitals were closed to capacity then, otherwise please explain why all those so called "Non-emergency" procedures were postponed? Where did I state that the Canadians should be "denied their right to Healthcare"??
Stop catching the Bull by the Tail!!
 
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richaceg

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Same principle.

No one asks to get AIDS or gonorrhea either.

If you're seriously sick and contagious, there are regulations that apply to you and you have to obey them.
So you're telling me if i don't get the flu shot, I can't go to the doctor to be treated if I get the flu?
 

simon482

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What nonsense are You coming up with? Maybe You are living on Mars for all we know. ROTFLMAO!!

I stated during the "Peak of the Pandemic". The Ontario Hospitals were closed to capacity then, otherwise please explain why all those so called "Non-emergency" procedures were postponed? Where did I state that the Canadians should be "denied their right to Healthcare"??
Stop catching the Bull by the Tail!!
At the peak of the pandemic the hospital in my town had 2 covid patients and an empty icu. Toronto hospitals were full and they refused to transfer patients so they could keep the appearance of looking full.

Bullshit lies.
 
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