Sex at a strip club, who can afford it and why?

[DjJazzyJeff]

That's pretty much what happened to me, and it was my first encounter with "pay for play". I had never heard of TERB before, so I was going in totally blind.

I was already turned on before walking into the joint, then met this absolutely stunning girl (still looking for an SP like her!) who arm-twisted me (lol) into heading to the VIP. After a couple of dances and she assessing how turned on I was, the upsell began. $100 for HJ, $200 for CBJ, $300 for CFS. It was the shortest (10 mins), lowest mileage (SSOG, no MPOS, no privacy), yet most expensive hobbying experience I've had.

After I got home that night, I Googled "Toronto escorts review" and found TERB, and learned just how much I had overpaid.

Are you the Canadian me? This, almost verbatim, happened to me also.

Part of the appeal of sc sex for me came from visiting American strip clubs. Sex in those clubs is expensive, rare, and really, really dangerous. So when I was in a Canadian club outside Toronto known for extras, and the really hot dancer made the pitch, I accepted. I did talk her down a bit, but not enough, and it basically turned into a jackhammer fest with her constantly telling me I needed to finish this song.

Now I see sp only, recently having decided not even mp is worth it. Doesn't mean I won't try to get great mileage at a strip club, or a $50 bbbj. There is something about getting something you're not supposed to be able to. It's also pretty funny when you get taken up for your dance and the guy in the first seat is being ridden and the guy in the next seat is getting quite the vigorous bj.

 

[VIPhunter]

I'm a SC guy, but I'm not a fan of paid extras from a menu for that very reason. In an ideal world it SCs should be as far as the dancer and the cutomer want to go on a $20 per song basis, with no artificial ceiling on service. Many dancers-that-are-dancers (even if they happen to offer other things) are already doing a decent job of approximating this. The not-a-dancer-dancer is the bane of my SC experience, especially since they tend to give crapdances, not lapdances, when you turn down the menu. The not-a-dancer-dancers also usually have the worst attitude.

With that being said:
-A bar environment is pretty normal for most guys (compared to MPs, and a lot of Incalls).
-There is a very low commitment / planing level to go to a SC. At worst you know you'll get drinks and naked women.
-You can more easily take friends / acquaintances to a SC.
-You can kill an evening at SCs. Interacting with lots of interesting dancers / folks, and drinking.
-If you're just buying dances you're doing that in $20 increments, with little commitment.
-It doesn't take that much work to get 'more than dances' if you 'want more than dances'.
-You never suffer door shock, which is common if you don't plan in other parts of the sex industry.
-You can also walk out the door with no drama.
-The type of LE troubles you're likely to have at SCs are different, less stigmatizing, and more easily avoided.

This helps make SCs less intimidating for some people. SCs are a different beast. One of the biggest problems with SCs is when they forget that.

I'm going to add something here: If I bump into a guy I know, Customer, Father-in-Law, or Confessor at an MPA or an Incall, there really is no believable excuse other that you are there to get down and dirty.

SCs can be quite quaint for the unknowing, and I can always say I was meeting a friend, or customer...

Remember it's part of my Secret Life!


Admittedly this does not really hold much water if one meets someone on the way out of the VIP while you have an unzipped fly, wet spot on your pants, and a goofy grin on your face....

I'm still working on that

 

[versitile1]

I paid $200 in a SC once for a hot, young thing to ride my bone for a few songs. Didn't really mind that there were other people in the VIP at the time. I just wished I could change positions so that I could've nailed her in doggy.

 

[spraggamuffin]

I'm sending a copy of this post to Chris Rock as we speak.Lol

I'm also asking him to RSVP to the "Real" Pimp and Ho ball happening every day of the year at select clubs.

 

[sasemohan123]

I think there are very few who can't get a 250 blowjob after becoming a regular who buys an hour of dances every time.

Without disclosing sensitive info, I can assure you that it is not the amount you mentioned. Nor would I consider the regular status, just the way we trust and like each other, it happens without planning and carried on for a year.

 

[The Options Menu]

I'm going to add something here: If I bump into a guy I know, Customer, Father-in-Law, or Confessor at an MPA or an Incall, there really is no believable excuse other that you are there to get down and dirty.

LOL. OK, you're right, we could be twins. The ability to evacuate is on my list as well.

Without disclosing sensitive info, I can assure you that it is not the amount you mentioned. Nor would I consider the regular status, just the way we trust and like each other, it happens without planning and carried on for a year.

Even without the optimistic, 'we just clicked', which does happen (but you should always assume you're just another customer), many dancers will dole out things that some people pay for as extras at certain spending points. This is well under Fuji's $250. While FS is rare in this format, HJ and BJ are common and uncommon respectively. The first tending to start below the $100 mark and the later generally above it. You also get the dances. (I never get more than 5-7 dances max.) That's why I much prefer dances that go as far as both people want, as opposed to a rushed paid sex act in the form of an extra.

With that being said, I never walk into a VIP or SC with the expectation of release, and YMMV.

 

[VIPhunter]

Evacuate....LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3wJOdPEHBE

 

[yolosohobby]

Dont over think it. Go with the flow. Be situationally aware. When you find yourself in an SC and you get the urge, find a willing dancer and negotiate service that you can afford. If you dont see one you like or the price is too high for an uncertain outcome, there is usually an MP within a 5 minute drive of any SC Ive ever been in. Odds are you can get the outcome you desire there.

Hobbying is like managing a portfolio of options. You can "lose a load" for $50 or $1000 - in a variety of environments w a variety of ladies. Thank whatever God you pray to, or dont pray to, for this wonderful world of hobbying and the spectacular ladies who provide us with this most essential gift.

 

[The Options Menu]

Evacuate....LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3wJOdPEHBE

The one Pro-Tip I have on the subject is: Never flee a SC like you just 'got caught'. Nope. Always have some BS story for somebody you could bump into (who's not your mom / sister). If you bump into somebody buck up, calmly exchange pleasantries, explain that you can't stick around, and calmly exit when you finish your drink. Odds are that they're just as interested in being discreet as you if it's a person or a couple of people. If you give off a vibe that you did nothing, and have nothing to hide, odds are nothing will come of it. A group of people makes you look like more of a SC weirdo, so you may want to beat a hasty retreat then (but only if you 100% haven't been seen, otherwise go back to plan 'A'). If a 'big reveal' about being at a SC could blow up on you, you may want to make a point of casually mentioning that you've been out as soon as possible when you get back (and are sober / clean enough).

 

[fuji]

Yeah. You need a convincing story to explain what you are doing there in the SC. Carefully worked out to be believable. Can't make it up on the spot, need the details worked out carefully in advance to cover yourself.

Here's mine:

"I was bored so I came in for a drink."

 

[Art Mann]

Here's mine:

"Popped in for a beer with a view. Nice to run into you too. For future reference, we crossed paths at Tim Horton's, the one on (specific street)."

Worked that one out with my brother-in-law about 15 years ago. In the first minute. Then we knocked back a few cold ones, shot the shit and enjoyed the scenery.

Not an issue when visiting indie ladies at their private locations. Never run into anybody, but have a useful fib in my back pocket in case I see a familiar face coming out of the elevator as I'm entering:

"Just going up to check out a camera for sale on Kijiji."

 

[mojak]

A while back I visited a club that has been known for extras, small place outside the GTA. Just wanted a couple of lap dances and found a very nice young lady with a terrific body, and went into the grubby but secluded VIP area. Almost immediately the upsell starts, and was quoted $200 for a blow job? W?T?F?! I can get one for a hell of a lot less without the risk of someone wandering in on us, in nicer surroundings, and a much more relaxed atmosphere. I realise that some bargaining is probably expected, but are guys that turned on by the thought of strip club sex that they will fork over anywhere near that amount? Are they getting migrant farm workers who don't know about things like the internet? Are guys just stupid? Take your pick.

HOLY SHIT!!!
Same EXACT questions I've asked for years! Same EXACT thing I told many girls back when I used to get dances! This shit completed turned me off dances years ago. You are soooooo right, the upsell begins as soon as you sit for your dance. One of the last dances I ever had was not even a dance. Chick spent 3 songs that I was paying for, trying to convince me to upgrade...
I would always tell them that I can get much more for lot less in far more comfortable surroundings. WTF would I wanna waste all that $$$ in a cum-filled lap dance chair?!

RIDICULOUS!

None was more ridiculous than Fantasia in Richmond Hill! Before they were finally shut down, the introduced the private rooms upstairs. A girl sat at my table and was trying to get me or my buddy to go upstairs. Having heard of the ridiculous prices, i decided to ask her the rates....wanted to hear it straight the horse's mouth.
She said it was $60 to enter (like V.I.P charged an entrance fee), plus $150/hr for the room...must book for half hour minimum. That's $210!
I asked what I get for my $210....she continues....for another $150 you can get a HJ.....or $300 for sex. Appalled, I basically laughed in her face and told her to go find another bunch of suckers.

RIDICULOUS!

 

[wangbang]

RIDICULOUS!

None was more ridiculous than Fantasia in Richmond Hill! Before they were finally shut down, the introduced the private rooms upstairs. A girl sat at my table and was trying to get me or my buddy to go upstairs. Having heard of the ridiculous prices, i decided to ask her the rates....wanted to hear it straight the horse's mouth.
She said it was $60 to enter (like V.I.P charged an entrance fee), plus $150/hr for the room...must book for half hour minimum. That's $210!
I asked what I get for my $210....she continues....for another $150 you can get a HJ.....or $300 for sex. Appalled, I basically laughed in her face and told her to go find another bunch of suckers.

RIDICULOUS!

Wasn't Fantasia a long time ago. lol

Times change 'cuz there has to be 100x's as many women doing pay for play these days.

The first dancer who ever offered me a bj asked for $500 at Bunnies back in the Fantasia days. After I said "no thanks", she asked what I had and she took my $120 for three dances and a pretty good bj.

 

[Dream_State]

Back in the good old days, the 90's, I use to get sucked and even fucked a South American dancer at the HoL Queensway. She never changed me extra ... I just bought her a drink and spent around $200 on dances. He name was something like Liezet

 

[Dream_State]

Yeah Fantasia in Richmond Hill 1995 was the year. I went in there with a friend of mine and I get carded at the door, I guess I looked too young? Then this girl comes over to our table... sticks her uninvited hand in my pants, starts playing with my cock... and telling me the prices. the bouncer at the door is looking at me the whole time. I didn't like the vibe in that place, so we left. but you're right... she was telling me the same prices.

HOLY SHIT!!!

RIDICULOUS!

None was more ridiculous than Fantasia in Richmond Hill! Before they were finally shut down, the introduced the private rooms upstairs. A girl sat at my table and was trying to get me or my buddy to go upstairs. Having heard of the ridiculous prices, i decided to ask her the rates....wanted to hear it straight the horse's mouth.
She said it was $60 to enter (like V.I.P charged an entrance fee), plus $150/hr for the room...must book for half hour minimum. That's $210!
I asked what I get for my $210....she continues....for another $150 you can get a HJ.....or $300 for sex. Appalled, I basically laughed in her face and told her to go find another bunch of suckers.

RIDICULOUS!

 

[fuji]

I get why people like the SC experience. I don't get why people pay those rates for extras. Why aren't they pulled back to reality by competition? That is a mystery to me.

In my opinion the dance price is reasonable and I still sometimes buy them. For the money the girls will party with you for awhile at your table, have a few drinks, then earn a couple hundred giving dances for half an hour. Without the extras it's still fun. Lower mileage than an escort in physical terms but in some ways better quality human interaction.

The escort experience is usually right down to business with not much in the way of a tease. The SC to me is all about the pretend flirting, teasing, and dances that are basically extended foreplay.

But the extras are priced in the stratosphere, and I can just as easily sit at the table texting escorts until I find somewhere to go after I leave the club.

 

[versitile1]

When I banged the stripper in the VIP, I wasn't expecting to get any extras. Instead, I took her for a dance. When she started, I said her she had a pretty pussy and she asked if I wanted to fuck. She told me it was $200 (including the 2 dances I got from her). I couldn't say no as I was thinking about seeing an SP that night anyways. So, $40 for the dances and $160 for FS. Still a bit pricey, but no where near the rates some of you have been quoted from strippers.

 

[Jiffypop69]

Was in Niagara Falls a couple of years ago (my last time at a SC) and went to [edited by moderator]. This young French Canadian girl convinced me to go for a lappy, after a song or 2 it was $80 for a blowie. The combination of beer, her hotness, the gyrating lap dance, and price made me too weak to resist. The upside was that was one of the best bj's I've ever had...and it was covered !

 

[pipelayer]

When I banged the stripper in the VIP, I wasn't expecting to get any extras. Instead, I took her for a dance. When she started, I said her she had a pretty pussy and she asked if I wanted to fuck. She told me it was $200 (including the 2 dances I got from her). I couldn't say no as I was thinking about seeing an SP that night anyways. So, $40 for the dances and $160 for FS. Still a bit pricey, but no where near the rates some of you have been quoted from strippers.

It's sure is more expensive...because you had to bang her in one position in about 7 minutes(two songs) for 200 bucks.

 

[versitile1]

It's sure is more expensive...because you had to bang her in one position in about 7 minutes(two songs) for 200 bucks.

No, it was more like 4 or 5 songs. And no where near the $500 some of you have been asked for. I said I got 2 dances before we even started fucking. So, again for those who have problems with comprehension and addition, $40 for the 2 dances, $160 for FS. The average agency rate for a HH session.