Because the orange rapist was in Putin's pocket and did whatever was asked of him.
That the peace you want?
Poland Says Putin is Trying to Destabilise NATO
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That the peace you want?
Oh right the Russia Russia Russia thing. I wonder what the Mueller Report found?Because the orange rapist was in Putin's pocket and did whatever was asked of him.
That the peace you want?
NATO has been giving Ukraine the runaround since they first applied for membership. I've spoken at length about this topic from the perspective of an insider in NATO operations and planning. Ukraine joining NATO wasn't a priority for either side until after Russia was operating on Ukrainian soil. I suspect NATO would still prefer to not admit Ukraine but at this point they won't really have much of a choice after the war ends. Putin literally tied both Ukraine's and NATO's hands by shoving his forces into a sovereign nation's borders.
When the war started everyone, including Russia, thought it would be over in weeks if not days. No one expected Russia was going to do this poorly because all the intelligence coming out of Russia was the same bullshit reports being fed to Putin which pointed to high readiness. Turns out we've had enough defectors since to know that those reports were falsified to cover up widespread corruption. Regularly training was not held, and money earmarked for training was siphoned into the bank accounts of senior officers. Equipment was not distributed but rather sold to the hottest bidder and the money siphoned into the bank accounts of senior officers.
Russia's air force was 5 times bigger than Ukraine's. The number one thing any military can do to reduce its loss of life, to reduce civilian deaths, and to mitigate collateral damage is to establish air superiority and Russia has completely failed. If they're "toying" with Ukraine, they're doing it at a very high cost of Russian lives and Russian materiel, in addition to Ukrainian and ethnic Russian civilian lives. If they're toying, it's barbarism of the highest order.
The US has the largest economy in the world. Even if you combine Russia's defense spending with their closest ally's, the US still spends more than double on defense. Then add on every other NATO nation's spending since they're also sending equipment. You really think they're all going to run out of money before Russia does?
You said this all started in 2014 and has been boiling over ever since. Why didn't the orange man move it off the fire during his term? If he's so strong, surely he could've brokered a peace in that time? From 2014 until 2021, 4 years of which were during Trump's reign, Russia poured more than 50,000 troops into Ukraine. This isn't a disputed figure, btw. That number has been reported by members of the Russian Duma (their version of the House). This flames of war were being fanned all during Trump's presidency. If he's the answer, why wasn't he able to stop it?
In reality, if there had been an actual capable commander in chief during Trump's time, perhaps we would've seen more decisions action and assistance to Ukraine then which would have given Putin pause and avoided the invasion.
We are literally talking about Russia, what the fuck are we going to talk about. Pie. I mean I am a fat dude who loves pie but...
Tom's utter inability to adapt to new information, I can't believe someone can be that dense and I've known some pretty dense people in my life. He isn't doing a good enough job to be paid, I'd hazard a guess that he has been on terb long enough not to be a bot. I can only assume he is putting us on, taking the piss.
Funny thing is he keeps talking about strength. He obviously doesn't know what that word means or understand it. In what sort of fucked up alternative reality does strength mean caving in to international bullies and actually standing up to them is a sign of weakness. Did I miss the memo. Is now Chamberlain a man of strength and Churchill a gutless coward with no bottom? No. I think Tom is out to lunch completely and totally.
Maybe he is being paid and the people paying him are completely incompetent, I mean Trump still goes off on his lies and bullshit and some people out there are buying it. Or even worse he actually believes this shit, has been successfully gifted and is doing all this for free.
Hey Tom
ITS TIME TO STOP! ITS TIME TO STOP OK! NO MORE! WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR PARENTS? WHO ARE YOUR PARENTS? I AM GOING TO CALL CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, IT'S TIME TO STOP.
There was likely no war because your hero would have given them Ukraine. Just listen to his rhetoric.
You are confusing being a loud mouthed bully with being strong. Very different.
His idea if strength was talk loud and threaten tarrifs. Very sophisticated foreign policy. Can you think of anyone on the world stage who did not think he was a clown and openly ridicule him. Drink more of the Kool aid.
Why do you refuse to answer the question.
He is a total wannabe dictator, so he always kissed ass to Duterte and KJU and then bent over Putin, who likely has dirt on him as well.
He wanted that kind of strength but is so incompetent that he couldn't rule with it.
But he could only stick with his mob boss rules and acts, which only got him so far.
And how he paysl
Why did Putin choose to wait and invade during Biden's presidency then? Your theory doesnt pass the sniff test. Putin and any other leader would not mess with Trump because they knew their hand would get spanked.
They didnt like Trump because he wouldnt continue with the never-ending wars that the USA always seems to get itself into. And most of the "leaders" in 2016 to 2020 were liberal. I would say that his strategy was a success with no wars during his tenure. Look at what meat puppet Biden is doing. Him and Turdy gets us into a war in ukraine and sky high inflation.
Lol. You are too funny (and completely divorced from reality)
Why do you continue to refuse to answer the question.
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Just think Putin should benefit from starting one?
I don't think you were paying attention.
Trump was talking about pulling out of NATO. Why would Putin invade and risk war with an alliance when the leader of the largest military in that alliance was talking about leaving it, which would effectively dissolve it?
Talk about the sniff test. You think the President that did more to harm American military readiness than anyone since Eisenhower's post-war demobilization was keeping Putin in check with fear, all while he was talking about dismantling the very thing that was standing against Putin?
What kind of nonsense logic is that?
Come on now. Keep telling yourself that. Biden is more concerned about hitting his diversity and lgbtq military numbers than actually deterring Putin.
$75 billion dollars says you're wrong.
In case you don't get the reference, that's how much aid Biden had sent Ukraine to stand up to Russia. Trump's plan to stand up to Russia was dissolve NATO. Tell me again which is tougher on Russia? Or are you going to deny Trump was working on dissolving NATO? And are you going to deny senior personnel, with a wealth of training and experiences, enlisted and commissioned, weren't bounced out by Trump's "anti-woke" military policies?
You've lost the plot. Either explain how dissolving NATO is tough on Putin and how $75 billion in aid isn't actively standing up to Putin, or be exposed as an empty shill. Your call. Do you have anything more than quips and Fox Entertainment "no reasonable person would believe these are facts" talking points or not? Let's find out.
