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NotADcotor

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Russia already has the Donbas. Its too late now that every country bordering Russia are joining NATO. The only option the USA has given Putin is a complete massacre of the Ukrainian army as the USA gives them a false hope that they can actually win. The USA is in a conundrum. If they take out Putin, they'll have to take care of Xi too.

Make peace you fools!
Poutine could... withdraw. Or Russia could with NATO aid to Ukraine lose without the complete massacre of the Ukraine army. Also the only way the Ukraine army can be massacred is if they refuse to give up the fight and that has nothing to do with the US, The US could totally throw them under the bus and they can keep fighting till they lose and it seems they will keep at it.
Also the USA is not in a conundrum, that word doesn't mean what you think it means. They can support the Ukraine and have them fuck up the Russian military even more than it has so far which is good for everyone, then set up conditions for Ukraine to join NATO, then Ukraine will be safe from Russia forever as will Finland, Poland and the Potato Union. Sounds like a total win to me.

Also on what planet are we talking about taking out Poutine. It would be nice if it happens, but that doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar, it would be up to the Russians to do it.
Even if and a big if, the west did take out Poutine which they wouldn't because to do so would require driving onto Moscow and set up the conditions for nukes and much like Poutine, Biden isn't bat shit crazy, on what reality would that imply they have to take care of Winnie the Pooh in West Taiwan. How does that even follow.

Accept reality you fool.
 

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Poutine could... withdraw. Or Russia could with NATO aid to Ukraine lose without the complete massacre of the Ukraine army. Also the only way the Ukraine army can be massacred is if they refuse to give up the fight and that has nothing to do with the US, The US could totally throw them under the bus and they can keep fighting till they lose and it seems they will keep at it.
Also the USA is not in a conundrum, that word doesn't mean what you think it means. They can support the Ukraine and have them fuck up the Russian military even more than it has so far which is good for everyone, then set up conditions for Ukraine to join NATO, then Ukraine will be safe from Russia forever as will Finland, Poland and the Potato Union. Sounds like a total win to me.

Also on what planet are we talking about taking out Poutine. It would be nice if it happens, but that doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar, it would be up to the Russians to do it.
Even if and a big if, the west did take out Poutine which they wouldn't because to do so would require driving onto Moscow and set up the conditions for nukes and much like Poutine, Biden isn't bat shit crazy, on what reality would that imply they have to take care of Winnie the Pooh in West Taiwan. How does that even follow.

Accept reality you fool.
I think you've been watching too much CNN my boy. You really think Biden is equipped mentally to handle Russia and China? Im guessing you havent seen him get lost on stage or fall up the stairs to air force one.

There are way too many cattle in north america who gobble up everything the mainstream media dishes to them. We are doomed.

Make peace you fools!!
 

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Us, them, us, them. Also Ukraine was nowhere near joining forces with us UNTIL the Russians invaded. Also FInland was not in the slightest bit interested in joining NATO until... come on guess... yeah until Poutine did his invasion.
Also if Russia for some reason wanted to waste it's time joining forces with Mexico for the 2 weeks it would last vs the US, I doubt if the US would be all that bothered, the war would end too soon.
You keep referring to fools but don't seem to recognize that you are the fool in this situation.




The Chinese military is large but
1: It has limited air and sea lift capacity. Sure if it has ports and air fields it could use civie assets to move shit, but you don't drop paratroopers would of 747's and you don't land marines from oil tankers.
No point having a massive army if you can't get them onto location. Sure this can be built up over time but it hasn't yet
2: Air and sea landings are not easy and institutional experience is nice. Dieppe, cough cough. Also air landings are a bit of a mixed bag also. Also landing craft and transport planes are very vulernable being slow and unarmored beasts.
3: Half the time it's typhoon season, there are only something like 12 or so beaches that can take a landing [a small landing see point 1], so easy to defend.
4: Taiwan has a smaller military but it's active component dwarfs the West Taiwan air mobile and marine force.
5: Taiwan has about a million reservists, and the country is rice paddies and heavily forested mountains... sounds kinda like Vietnam.
6: If there are sanctions China has problems with oil and feeding themselves until at least they improve their links with Russia. The CCP has control over West Taiwan on the basis of brining stability and prospertiy, once that goes via sanctions and you create an unstable situation.

A fool either spouts off without any actual knowledge of the situation, or knows but still spouts off.

Fucking Neville Chamberlains. Make peace in our time, anything for peace. Fools also don't learn from history.
Double plus ironic that you end every post with make peace you fools. Your lack of self awareness disturbs Lord Vader.
So much incoherent writing in this post. Time will tell who is right. Hopefully you are, but I don't trust Biden (dementia) and Trudeau (estrogen) to outsmart Putin and Xi.
 

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So much incoherent writing in this post. Time will tell who is right. Hopefully you are, but I don't trust Biden (dementia) and Trudeau (estrogen) to outsmart Putin and Xi.
BOOOOOOOOM 💥💥💥💥


PULL OUT OF UKRAINIAN AND MAKE PEACE FOOLS!!!!!
 
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NotADcotor

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I think you've been watching too much CNN my boy. You really think Biden is equipped mentally to handle Russia and China? Im guessing you havent seen him get lost on stage or fall up the stairs to air force one.

There are way too many cattle in north america who gobble up everything the mainstream media dishes to them. We are doomed.

Make peace you fools!!
I don't even know if I get CNN. For that matter nothing I said would require any access to media to understand, it is just looking at reality and using the old Mark 1 A 2 noggen, you should try it some time rather than have a pathalogical liar treasonous grifter do all your thinking for you. Also there is nothing I said that would require any sort of talent from Biden or anyone else, never mind physical abilities. FDR smashed some skulls and he was partly crippled from Polio.
 

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How would the USA feel if mexico joined forces with the Russians?

Make peace you fools!
Have you considered maybe there's a reason NATO has had a steady stream of countries wanting to join since it's inception while Russia is on its 3rd anti-NATO alliance and this one is shrinking like the others did? Incidentally, a large number of NATO's members today comprise nations that used to be part of Russia's anti-NATO alliances, and some of them are the most vocal about standing up to Russia.

Georgia first approached NATO before it even left Russia's anti-NATO alliance because they were scared of what Russia was going to do to them and the demands it had placed on them as a member of the "alliance", at which point Russia invaded and engaged in genocide under the pretense of protecting two republics which had declared themselves to be autonomous. Sound familiar? Weird how that keeps happening. Kind of like how people who disagree with Putin are really bad at falling out of windows.

Meanwhile, when Mexico announced they wanted to leave their defense agreement with the US in 2002 because they didn't want to get pulled into Iraq, the US maintained normalized relations and even helped with the process to leave which was formalized 2 years later as required by the agreement. To this day, the US still sends military aid in the form of money and equipment to Mexico.

Russia runs it's military alliances like a mob runs a protection racket. There's a reason NATO is growing to swallow up former Warsaw Pact and former CSTO states, and why none of the CSTO states are in Ukraine helping Russia. Heck, last year, a Russian politician threatened to bomb a member of Russia's anti-NATO alliance, and China put them in their place. China vowed to defend a state it has no defense alliance with from Russia, whom that state does have a defense alliance with. That should sound insane to you.

Do you really think Russia-Ukraine relations are anything like US-Mexico relations? Do you really not see why this comparison is idiotic? The US treats countries it's unfriendly with (Cuba) better than Russia treats it's closest allies.

Resist you fool!

You don't think the largest military in the world could take over itty bitty Taiwan because it may be difficult?

Make peace you fools!
NATO has the largest military in the world at over twice the size of China's. China has only one military alliance and it's worth North Korea. The size of the Sino-North Korean Treaty of Friendship, Co-operation, and Mutual Assistance is about 3.2 million all ranks, NATO is almost 6 million. It could nuke Taiwan, killing everyone and making it uninhabitable, but that's about the only victory it can achieve there currently.

To attack Taiwan, China needs to attack US naval forces. That triggers NATO article 5. It also triggers other American defense agreements, like the Rio Pact which pulls in most of South America, ANZUS, the Five Power Defense agreements, and bilateral mutual defense agreements. So China and North Korea vs Taiwan, North America (excluding Mexico), South America (excluding Ecuador and Bolivia), all of Europe (except Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Serbia), Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, the Philippines, Korea, and Japan. So 3.3 million at most vs more than 10 million.

It's really not "itty bitty Taiwan", is it? It's "enormous ginormous alliance".

Resist you fool!

Russia already has the Donbas. Its too late now that every country bordering Russia are joining NATO. The only option the USA has given Putin is a complete massacre of the Ukrainian army as the USA gives them a false hope that they can actually win. The USA is in a conundrum. If they take out Putin, they'll have to take care of Xi too.

Make peace you fools!
The US already had Afghanistan and Iraq. How did that work out for them?

On H-Hour of D-Day Russia outnumbered Ukraine by a massive margin. They had twice the land forces and five times the air force. Yet Russia doesn't even have air superiority after more than a year. For comparison, in Iraq, the US had air superiority in a few minutes and air supremacy in a few hours, and had completed the invasion, meaning wholesale destruction of all opposing military forces and occupation of all major urban areas, airports, and military installations, within 43 days. Meanwhile it's been 542 days and Russia occupies barely more than it had occupied 543 days ago. The largest invasion in history only lasted 336 days, and the numbers there were far more even then this.

Given how badly the invasion went, do you really think the occupation is going to succeed?

There is no conundrum.

Resist you fool!
 

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Poland has a history with Russia and their relations have been strained ever since the end of the Cold War no doubt Putin is not a good person, and he wants to create instability and fallen and hope that one day the pool, then will go back to the cold war years, and join Russia as an ally however, the people of Poland want to have freedom and enjoy life and not have to ever be under any influence by the Russians.
 

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Have you considered maybe there's a reason NATO has had a steady stream of countries wanting to join since it's inception while Russia is on its 3rd anti-NATO alliance and this one is shrinking like the others did? Incidentally, a large number of NATO's members today comprise nations that used to be part of Russia's anti-NATO alliances, and some of them are the most vocal about standing up to Russia.

Georgia first approached NATO before it even left Russia's anti-NATO alliance because they were scared of what Russia was going to do to them and the demands it had placed on them as a member of the "alliance", at which point Russia invaded and engaged in genocide under the pretense of protecting two republics which had declared themselves to be autonomous. Sound familiar? Weird how that keeps happening. Kind of like how people who disagree with Putin are really bad at falling out of windows.

Meanwhile, when Mexico announced they wanted to leave their defense agreement with the US in 2002 because they didn't want to get pulled into Iraq, the US maintained normalized relations and even helped with the process to leave which was formalized 2 years later as required by the agreement. To this day, the US still sends military aid in the form of money and equipment to Mexico.

Russia runs it's military alliances like a mob runs a protection racket. There's a reason NATO is growing to swallow up former Warsaw Pact and former CSTO states, and why none of the CSTO states are in Ukraine helping Russia. Heck, last year, a Russian politician threatened to bomb a member of Russia's anti-NATO alliance, and China put them in their place. China vowed to defend a state it has no defense alliance with from Russia, whom that state does have a defense alliance with. That should sound insane to you.

Do you really think Russia-Ukraine relations are anything like US-Mexico relations? Do you really not see why this comparison is idiotic? The US treats countries it's unfriendly with (Cuba) better than Russia treats it's closest allies.

Resist you fool!



NATO has the largest military in the world at over twice the size of China's. China has only one military alliance and it's worth North Korea. The size of the Sino-North Korean Treaty of Friendship, Co-operation, and Mutual Assistance is about 3.2 million all ranks, NATO is almost 6 million. It could nuke Taiwan, killing everyone and making it uninhabitable, but that's about the only victory it can achieve there currently.

To attack Taiwan, China needs to attack US naval forces. That triggers NATO article 5. It also triggers other American defense agreements, like the Rio Pact which pulls in most of South America, ANZUS, the Five Power Defense agreements, and bilateral mutual defense agreements. So China and North Korea vs Taiwan, North America (excluding Mexico), South America (excluding Ecuador and Bolivia), all of Europe (except Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Serbia), Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, the Philippines, Korea, and Japan. So 3.3 million at most vs more than 10 million.

It's really not "itty bitty Taiwan", is it? It's "enormous ginormous alliance".

Resist you fool!



The US already had Afghanistan and Iraq. How did that work out for them?

On H-Hour of D-Day Russia outnumbered Ukraine by a massive margin. They had twice the land forces and five times the air force. Yet Russia doesn't even have air superiority after more than a year. For comparison, in Iraq, the US had air superiority in a few minutes and air supremacy in a few hours, and had completed the invasion, meaning wholesale destruction of all opposing military forces and occupation of all major urban areas, airports, and military installations, within 43 days. Meanwhile it's been 542 days and Russia occupies barely more than it had occupied 543 days ago. The largest invasion in history only lasted 336 days, and the numbers there were far more even then this.

Given how badly the invasion went, do you really think the occupation is going to succeed?

There is no conundrum.

Resist you fool!
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Have you considered maybe there's a reason NATO has had a steady stream of countries wanting to join since it's inception while Russia is on its 3rd anti-NATO alliance and this one is shrinking like the others did? Incidentally, a large number of NATO's members today comprise nations that used to be part of Russia's anti-NATO alliances, and some of them are the most vocal about standing up to Russia.

Georgia first approached NATO before it even left Russia's anti-NATO alliance because they were scared of what Russia was going to do to them and the demands it had placed on them as a member of the "alliance", at which point Russia invaded and engaged in genocide under the pretense of protecting two republics which had declared themselves to be autonomous. Sound familiar? Weird how that keeps happening. Kind of like how people who disagree with Putin are really bad at falling out of windows.

Meanwhile, when Mexico announced they wanted to leave their defense agreement with the US in 2002 because they didn't want to get pulled into Iraq, the US maintained normalized relations and even helped with the process to leave which was formalized 2 years later as required by the agreement. To this day, the US still sends military aid in the form of money and equipment to Mexico.

Russia runs it's military alliances like a mob runs a protection racket. There's a reason NATO is growing to swallow up former Warsaw Pact and former CSTO states, and why none of the CSTO states are in Ukraine helping Russia. Heck, last year, a Russian politician threatened to bomb a member of Russia's anti-NATO alliance, and China put them in their place. China vowed to defend a state it has no defense alliance with from Russia, whom that state does have a defense alliance with. That should sound insane to you.

Do you really think Russia-Ukraine relations are anything like US-Mexico relations? Do you really not see why this comparison is idiotic? The US treats countries it's unfriendly with (Cuba) better than Russia treats it's closest allies.

Resist you fool!



NATO has the largest military in the world at over twice the size of China's. China has only one military alliance and it's worth North Korea. The size of the Sino-North Korean Treaty of Friendship, Co-operation, and Mutual Assistance is about 3.2 million all ranks, NATO is almost 6 million. It could nuke Taiwan, killing everyone and making it uninhabitable, but that's about the only victory it can achieve there currently.

To attack Taiwan, China needs to attack US naval forces. That triggers NATO article 5. It also triggers other American defense agreements, like the Rio Pact which pulls in most of South America, ANZUS, the Five Power Defense agreements, and bilateral mutual defense agreements. So China and North Korea vs Taiwan, North America (excluding Mexico), South America (excluding Ecuador and Bolivia), all of Europe (except Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Serbia), Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, the Philippines, Korea, and Japan. So 3.3 million at most vs more than 10 million.

It's really not "itty bitty Taiwan", is it? It's "enormous ginormous alliance".

Resist you fool!



The US already had Afghanistan and Iraq. How did that work out for them?

On H-Hour of D-Day Russia outnumbered Ukraine by a massive margin. They had twice the land forces and five times the air force. Yet Russia doesn't even have air superiority after more than a year. For comparison, in Iraq, the US had air superiority in a few minutes and air supremacy in a few hours, and had completed the invasion, meaning wholesale destruction of all opposing military forces and occupation of all major urban areas, airports, and military installations, within 43 days. Meanwhile it's been 542 days and Russia occupies barely more than it had occupied 543 days ago. The largest invasion in history only lasted 336 days, and the numbers there were far more even then this.

Given how badly the invasion went, do you really think the occupation is going to succeed?

There is no conundrum.

Resist you fool!
I find it crazy how many people on this escort review board are advocates for war when in reality their pants would be soaked in the front and soiled in the back if they were ever drafted.

Make peace you fools!!
 

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I find it crazy how many people on this escort review board are advocates for war when in reality their pants would be soaked in the front and soiled in the back if they were ever drafted.

Make peace you fools!!
Criticizing someone saying crazy how many posts when they are all replies to his nonsense. Reason, do you do it maternal fornicator.

What I find crazy is how someone who posts on a board for adults can be either so devoid of historical and geopolitical knowledge and yet post foolishness with such confidence, that or disturbing that someone so evil walks among us. Even if one is a total coward, that doesn't change the facts of how countries should operate.
 

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Criticizing someone saying crazy how many posts when they are all replies to his nonsense. Reason, do you do it maternal fornicator.

What I find crazy is how someone who posts on a board for adults can be either so devoid of historical and geopolitical knowledge and yet post foolishness with such confidence, that or disturbing that someone so evil walks among us. Even if one is a total coward, that doesn't change the facts of how countries should operate.
I disagree. I also believe that too many people on this escort review board are afraid to admit that their mainstream media constantly lies to them. Rather than admit this, they ignore the facts and choose to go down with the ship. Covid is one example. The Ukraine war is another. Climate "crisis". Shall I go on?
 
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I disagree. I also believe that too many people on this escort review board are afraid to admit that their mainstream media constantly lies to them. Rather than admit this, they ignore the facts and choose to go down with the ship. Covid is one example. The Ukraine war is another. Climate "crisis". Shall I go on?
You just made the case that you don't believe science or facts and rely on 'non mainstream media' for your own version of the world.
That just makes you another conspiracy theory kook who 'does his own research'.
 
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Crazy how many p


I find it crazy how many people on this escort review board are advocates for war when in reality their pants would be soaked in the front and soiled in the back if they were ever drafted.

Make peace you fools!!
I didn't have to get drafted; I volunteered. And I'm not the only veteran here.

You're not advocating for peace, you're advocating for appeasement. We're not advocating for war, we're advocating for a lasting peace.

Name a single time in history that appeasement had worked out well.
 

NotADcotor

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I disagree. I also believe that too many people on this escort review board are afraid to admit that their mainstream media constantly lies to them. Rather than admit this, they ignore the facts and choose to go down with the ship. Covid is one example. The Ukraine war is another. Climate "crisis". Shall I go on?
So instead you trust Russian propaganda and what some random asshats on youtube say. Not a good plan.

But yeah you are right, The earth is flat, Vaccines don't work, Russia is a force for good, pineapple belongs on pizza, the moon landings are fake, Churchill was a bad man for picking on that nice man Hitler, Astrology if extremely predictive, homeopathy is the ultimate in medicine, Justin Beiber is a force for good, Lemmy isn't god. I mean after all you wouldn't want to believe mainstream media. Just believe whatever media feeds into your delusion.

Also ironic that you and your ilk speak of ignoring the facts when the covid section of terb is filled with you people completely ignoring reality, posting studies that either are from made up sources or when from actual sources don't say what you people claim it says.

Also, your decision on what sources to believe is what confirms the way you want to see the world. It is better to trust in mainstream media than to do that. It's called cherry picking and you can do that to justify any bullshit. Any. And once you go down that rabbit hole, you are unable to be budged, like a Jebus cultist who believes the bible is 100% true and without error and when you point out a contradiction [like the 2 ways Judas dies] they just say, oh you need faith to understand.

It's sad that you think we are the clown shoes. And by sad I mean pathetic.
 

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So instead you trust Russian propaganda and what some random asshats on youtube say. Not a good plan.

But yeah you are right, The earth is flat, Vaccines don't work, Russia is a force for good, pineapple belongs on pizza, the moon landings are fake, Churchill was a bad man for picking on that nice man Hitler, Astrology if extremely predictive, homeopathy is the ultimate in medicine, Justin Beiber is a force for good, Lemmy isn't god. I mean after all you wouldn't want to believe mainstream media. Just believe whatever media feeds into your delusion.

Also ironic that you and your ilk speak of ignoring the facts when the covid section of terb is filled with you people completely ignoring reality, posting studies that either are from made up sources or when from actual sources don't say what you people claim it says.

Also, your decision on what sources to believe is what confirms the way you want to see the world. It is better to trust in mainstream media than to do that. It's called cherry picking and you can do that to justify any bullshit. Any. And once you go down that rabbit hole, you are unable to be budged, like a Jebus cultist who believes the bible is 100% true and without error and when you point out a contradiction [like the 2 ways Judas dies] they just say, oh you need faith to understand.

It's sad that you think we are the clown shoes. And by sad I mean pathetic.
Why should he belive Russian propganda. The stable genoius is teling his lemmings to belive Putin of US security and intelligence agencies and he has been carrying Putin's water for years.
 

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You just made the case that you don't believe science or facts and rely on 'non mainstream media' for your own version of the world.
That just makes you another conspiracy theory kook who 'does his own research'.
Thats the problem. Not many people do their own research and rely on the mainstream media to spoonfeed them their "facts". Did you call the wuhan lab leak a conspiracy? The media sure did.
 
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I didn't have to get drafted; I volunteered. And I'm not the only veteran here.

You're not advocating for peace, you're advocating for appeasement. We're not advocating for war, we're advocating for a lasting peace.

Name a single time in history that appeasement had worked out well.
Does lasting peace involve endless wars? This will not end well. Get to the negotiating table.

Make peace you fools!
 

TomFord1980

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So instead you trust Russian propaganda and what some random asshats on youtube say. Not a good plan.

But yeah you are right, The earth is flat, Vaccines don't work, Russia is a force for good, pineapple belongs on pizza, the moon landings are fake, Churchill was a bad man for picking on that nice man Hitler, Astrology if extremely predictive, homeopathy is the ultimate in medicine, Justin Beiber is a force for good, Lemmy isn't god. I mean after all you wouldn't want to believe mainstream media. Just believe whatever media feeds into your delusion.

Also ironic that you and your ilk speak of ignoring the facts when the covid section of terb is filled with you people completely ignoring reality, posting studies that either are from made up sources or when from actual sources don't say what you people claim it says.

Also, your decision on what sources to believe is what confirms the way you want to see the world. It is better to trust in mainstream media than to do that. It's called cherry picking and you can do that to justify any bullshit. Any. And once you go down that rabbit hole, you are unable to be budged, like a Jebus cultist who believes the bible is 100% true and without error and when you point out a contradiction [like the 2 ways Judas dies] they just say, oh you need faith to understand.

It's sad that you think we are the clown shoes. And by sad I mean pathetic.
God save us all. We are due for a world war. Make peace you fools!
 

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Thats the problem. Not many people do their own research and rely on the mainstream media to spoonfeed them their "facts". Did you call the wuhan lab leak a conspiracy? The media sure did.
You have a lab for viral work for your covid research?
 

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Does lasting peace involve endless wars? This will not end well. Get to the negotiating table.

Make peace you fools!
No, it doesn't. And that's the point.

Why don't countries negotiate with terrorists? Because it encourages more of them to try. Why is every child taught to stand up to bullies? Because if you give them your lunch today they'll come back to get your lunch tomorrow.

Grab a history text book. Find where appeasement has lead to less war and less death. Just one case. Can you find just one example where giving in to a bully worked? No. It leads to endless wars. The thing you claim to want to avoid is the path you're advocating we go down.

In 1931 Japan invaded Manchuria. They were kindly asked to give it back to China but refused. So the world let them have it. Better to have peace, right?

Except we know that encouraged Italy to take Abyssinia. They were asked to give it back but refused. Better to have peace, right?

Except we know that encouraged Germany to take Austria. They were asked to give it back but refused, but they did promise they wouldn't attack anyone else. Better to have peace, right?

Except we know that encouraged Germany to take Czechoslovakia. They were asked to give it back but refused, but this time they meant it: no more. Better to have peace, right?

Except we know that encouraged Germany to take Klaipeda. But seriously, that was it and no more. They pinky swore this time. Better to have peace, right?

Not to mention all the other pieces of appeasement I'm not mentioning. Do you know what all that appeasement lead to?

The rape of Nanking. The Holocaust. The Holodomor. The deadliest war in human history. More than 80 million dead. A number that would have been astonishingly smaller if we had put our foot down right at the start. Appeasement, the same course you're advocating now, led to constant war and millions upon millions dead. Or are you suggesting we should've let Hitler and Stalin have Poland, and that would've been it? No more war, no more dead? We just didn't take appeasement far enough? Is that it?

In a way, you're the one advocating for war. You're the one wanting to say the west will let other countries engage in all the genocide they want, build up as strong as they want, take any land they want. And you think, for the first time in human history, that this is going to lead to lasting peace. It's never worked before... Oh but this time it will? Why? Why do you have any reason to think giving Russia lands that it had already committed genocide in will lead to more peace and less death? Why?

I don't buy it. I don't accept the word of the Butcher of Grozny that he's done if we just let him have this. He promised he wasn't going to attack Georgia. But he did. He promised he wasn't going to attack Ukraine - repeatedly - most recently within a week of attacking Ukraine. His promises are empty and he's already committed genocide before.

You can say I support war all you want. That doesn't make it true. I support peace, and I support standing against war criminals who commit genocide. You support giving war criminals who commit genocide more land filled with the people he's committed genocide against, rich with resources that are used to fuel military manufacturing. And your only justification is you claim this will bring peace. Why? What reason do you have that this time Putin is telling the truth, that this won't lead to more war? And are you prepared to tell the ethnic groups living there, whom Putin and the Russians have already said aren't human and whose culture doesn't actually exist, why you think they're going to be safe, or why you want to sacrifice their lives?

You're not advocating for peace. You're advocating for death.
 
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