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Poland Says Putin is Trying to Destabilise NATO

TomFord1980

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And?
You said you wanted peace immediately.



Oh, so you don't think peace at all costs is appropriate, and in fact people can negotiate what they want?
So Ukraine is under no obligation to sue for peace if they think the terms are unfair?

Gotcha.
I can see you have never negotiated anything in your life my mexican friend. The terms need to be at least somewhat favorable for each side.
 

DinkleMouse

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Any links to back up your claims about trump or more bullshit?
What claims? That he said he wanted to pull out of NATO? When I first said it you didn't doubt it, you said he only said it as a ruse to encourage NATO to grow. So if you're asking for proof of that, you're too late.

My whole point here is that our leadership is weak and ripe for the picking by strong leaders such as Xi and Putin who dont have to worry about having to hit diversity and equality numbers, thereby diluting the talent of the military.
Western militaries continue to outperform Russia and China regardless of your thoughts on diversity. Have you ever worn a uniform? Do you know anything about combat readiness or effectiveness, or have any idea how to evaluate either one? You're right back to Fox Entretiennent talking points. How is it you seem to share their exact same opinion on everything but think they're shit?
 

TomFord1980

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What claims? That he said he wanted to pull out of NATO? When I first said it you didn't doubt it, you said he only said it as a ruse to encourage NATO to grow. So if you're asking for proof of that, you're too late.


Western militaries continue to outperform Russia and China regardless of your thoughts on diversity. Have you ever worn a uniform? Do you know anything about combat readiness or effectiveness, or have any idea how to evaluate either one? You're right back to Fox Entretiennent talking points. How is it you seem to share their exact same opinion on everything but think they're shit?
What is with you and Fox? Answwr me this, why do your views seem to align with CNN, CBC, and MSNBC?
 

DinkleMouse

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What is with you and Fox? Answwr me this, why do your views seem to align with CNN, CBC, and MSNBC?
And where did I say they were shit and didn't listen to them?

You said Fox was trash and you didn't watch it, yet all your talking points mimic theirs. In order for you to turn that around on me, you need to establish that I've said CNN, CBC and MSNBC are trash and I don't watch them. Can you do so?

You've really got a way of dodging questions though. Hardly a hallmark of good faith discussion, and it's gone on long enough for me. Since I don't deal with trolls, you can join the others on the ignore list.
 

NotADcotor

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Any links to back up your claims about trump or more bullshit?

My whole point here is that our leadership is weak and ripe for the picking by strong leaders such as Xi and Putin who dont have to worry about having to hit diversity and equality numbers, thereby diluting the talent of the military.
You keep bitching about the leadership standing up to Poutine and demanding they bend over like little bitches while at the same time calling them weak. This contradiction has been pointed out to you.

It's funny, even without diluting their talent via diversity and equity, the Russian military can't even handle a poorer country 1/4 their population. Bravo. Failure after failure and fuck up after fuck up. Maybe Russia should let the gays and the trannies run their army, they couldn't do any worse.

It's time to stop. Stop it, Where are your parents, who are your parents, I'll calling CAS. Stop it, get help.
 

NotADcotor

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What is with you and Fox? Answwr me this, why do your views seem to align with CNN, CBC, and MSNBC?
I don't wath CNN, CBC or MSNBC, I read these things called books, and adult magazines like The Economist who I am sure antifa consider fascist.
Anyone with the slightest grasp of human nature, geopolitical reality and history knows you are full of shit.
Also picking on people who do get their information from CNN< CBC and MSNBC while following Trump and his grift and Fox News... yeah, sure whatever buddy.
You are so far out to lunch you don't even know it. It's like being falsely called a racist by Hitler.
 

TomFord1980

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I don't wath CNN, CBC or MSNBC, I read these things called books, and adult magazines like The Economist who I am sure antifa consider fascist.
Anyone with the slightest grasp of human nature, geopolitical reality and history knows you are full of shit.
Also picking on people who do get their information from CNN< CBC and MSNBC while following Trump and his grift and Fox News... yeah, sure whatever buddy.
You are so far out to lunch you don't even know it. It's like being falsely called a racist by Hitler.
I suggest you listen to "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath. You, a peasant, are defending the military industrial complex. How cute.
 

Valcazar

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I can see you have never negotiated anything in your life my mexican friend. The terms need to be at least somewhat favorable for each side.
I agree.
So you admit that Ukraine might not agree to the terms being offered by Russia and think that's totally normal.

Cool.

So we all agree that we won't have peace until the offers on the table seem better than continuing the fighting to both sides.

Meanwhile, negotiations continue, as they have since the war started.
 

NotADcotor

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I suggest you listen to "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath. You, a peasant, are defending the military industrial complex. How cute.
Oh so cute, the guy defending appeasement is talking down to me. The policy which fails over and over and lead to Hitler fucking up much of Europe, and not "Hitler" or those "Neo-Nazis" in Ukraine but literal Hitler.

What's next defending wife beating and going to Justin Beiber concerts.
 

Anbarandy

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What claims? That he said he wanted to pull out of NATO? When I first said i80"t you didn't doubt it, you said he only said it as a ruse to encourage NATO to grow. So if you're asking for proof of that, you're too late.


Western militaries continue to outperform Russia and China regardless of your thoughts on diversity. Have you ever worn a uniform? Do you know anything about combat readiness or effectiveness, or have any idea how to evaluate either one? You're right back to Fox Entretiennent talking points. How is it you seem to share their exact same opinion on everything but think they're shit?
You keep bitching about the leadership standing up to Poutine and demanding they bend over like little bitches while at the same time calling them weak. This contradiction has been pointed out to you.

It's funny, even without diluting their talent via diversity and equity, the Russian military can't even handle a poorer country 1/4 their population. Bravo. Failure after failure and fuck up after fuck up. Maybe Russia should let the gays and the trannies run their army, they couldn't do any worse.

It's time to stop. Stop it, Where are your parents, who are your parents, I'll calling CAS. Stop it, get help.
Oh so cute, the guy defending appeasement is talking down to me. The policy which fails over and over and lead to Hitler fucking up much of Europe, and not "Hitler" or those "Neo-Nazis" in Ukraine but literal Hitler.

What's next defending wife beating and going to Justin Beiber concerts.
The title of this thread should be amended to read:

"TomFord1980 Says TomFord1980 Is Trying To Destabilize TomFord1980"
 
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