men in toronto do not pick up enough

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I also find that women go for the guys that can talk for hours about nothing, but is that really what a woman wants?
Yes. People naturally seek that which is similar to themselves because that is what they know best and are most comfortable with.

Women need verbal stimulation on a constant basis. This is how they solve their problems, by talking it out, expressing how they feel. All you have to do is listen to a group of women chatting together. There is never a moment of silence.
Men on the other hand solve their problems through action, communicating only when necessary and condensing down their words to the most important points.

Now if we can find a way to harness the energy from women's conversations we will have an unlimited resource of power.

But I do agree, the majority of people in Toronto give the impression of being rather cold and disinterested. And it is becoming worse with time.
 

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Yes, I would like to hear the story, you obviously have a pretty arrogant attitude towards the whole issue....so please humour us with your story.

...your breath. :D
 

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tboy said:
Hmmmm ok, so like Paul Bernardo et al are like, what? 1 in 10 million? Yeah, that's reason to have walls up.

Now I'm not advocating being reckless but let's be realistic here: the odds of that guy who walked up to you and said hi at the grocery store being any sort of real danger to you are worse than winning the lottery.

In fact, I believe the typical sexual assault occurs from someone you know as opposed to a total stranger.

According to the police services website there have been 1184 sexual assaults to date 2008. (down 8.4% from last year). Now let's just say there are what, oh, 500,000 single men in this city? That's about .002%

...there you go. A woman expresses her concern in response to a question posed, and your reaction is to mock her for it.

"Here...let me show you with cold hard numbers how stupid it is for you to feel the way you do"

Nah...you aren't a misogynist twit at all...:rolleyes:

Yeah...its WOMEN who are the problem for you and spending time with one (sans the cash in the envelope)...
 

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Hmmmm ok, so like Paul Bernardo et al are like, what? 1 in 10 million? Yeah, that's reason to have walls up.

Now I'm not advocating being reckless but let's be realistic here: the odds of that guy who walked up to you and said hi at the grocery store being any sort of real danger to you are worse than winning the lottery.

In fact, I believe the typical sexual assault occurs from someone you know as opposed to a total stranger.

According to the police services website there have been 1184 sexual assaults to date 2008. (down 8.4% from last year). Now let's just say there are what, oh, 500,000 single men in this city? That's about .002%
The fact that Toronto isn't that dangerous for a city, even a Canadian city is utterly missing the point... It's placing the burden on 'the women' as opposed to you adjusting your 'social toolbox'.

edit: Noir sounds cautious-- That's not frigid, that's her not hopping her ass into your Scooby Van after a 20 minute conversation...
 

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The fact that Toronto isn't that dangerous for a city, even a Canadian city is utterly missing the point... It's placing the burden on 'the women' as opposed to you adjusting your 'social toolbox'.

....you might wake him up from Tboy land, where Tboy logic rules supreme.....
 

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...there you go. A woman expresses her concern in response to a question posed, and your reaction is to mock her for it.

"Here...let me show you with cold hard numbers how stupid it is for you to feel the way you do"

Nah...you aren't a misogynist twit at all...:rolleyes:

Yeah...its WOMEN who are the problem for you and spending time with one (sans the cash in the envelope)...
Mock? sorry, you're mistaken but that's ok, you've been that way many times before.

And I see why you are so popular with the ladies, you just go by whatever they say no matter what. A perfect example of someone who says a lot, but says nothing.......

I was simply addressing the issue brought up that a woman has to be afraid of all men because of 1.
 

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I think that anyone speaking of sexual assaults and that women should not have barriers around them doesn't know any better.

The odds are slim but women must be careful.

Until it happens to someone that you know and love, then just shut the fuck up.
 

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tboy said:
Hmmmm ok, so like Paul Bernardo et al are like, what? 1 in 10 million? Yeah, that's reason to have walls up.

Now I'm not advocating being reckless but let's be realistic here: the odds of that guy who walked up to you and said hi at the grocery store being any sort of real danger to you are worse than winning the lottery.

In fact, I believe the typical sexual assault occurs from someone you know as opposed to a total stranger.

According to the police services website there have been 1184 sexual assaults to date 2008. (down 8.4% from last year). Now let's just say there are what, oh, 500,000 single men in this city? That's about .002%
Statistics really mean nothing to me tboy (In the words of Disraeli and Mark Twain: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics). Keep in mind that those police reports only come from crimes that are REPORTED - there are many assults/rapes/robberies etc. that go unreported.

Living in this city as a woman requires a different mindset than that of a man who can seemingly walk around without the need to be pro-active for his safety. There are a lot of psychos and crazy people in this world - me having this "extra layer of protection" isn't doing me any harm.

Unlike that friend of yours, I do know people that have been assaulted, date raped etc so taking preventative measures doesn't shove a pickle up my ass.

(Aside: IMHO, Paul Bernardo was attractive thus why I used him in my example.) I am not saying that all men are serial killers, rapists or terrible people. I am also not saying that I give everyone the cold shoulder (read my first post.) I know that I personally would never be able to shake that feeling of responsibility if I were assaulted by someone who I smiled at on the bus. I'd always have that thought in the back of my mind; what if I hadn't.



lawyerman said:
I think that anyone speaking of sexual assaults and that women should not have barriers around them doesn't know any better.

Until it happens to someone that you know and love, then just shut the fuck up.
Thank you. (I would have said it a tad differently. ^_^)
 

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MLAM said:
....you might wake him up from Tboy land, where Tboy logic rules supreme.....
Better to be in Tboy land than arrogant fuck land, btw, you never answered me: if you're so good with the ladies why do you pay for it?
 

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rama putri said:
Another problem is men and women don't date in Toronto. It's right away to BF and GF or nothing at all. No one gets the concept.
...I feel you on. Fortunately, this isn't TOTALLY universal...I've met some women who aren't looking for any sort of commitment or anything... but yeah, I hear you. I'm not sure if it is a Toronto thing or not - I've ever lived quite this lifestyle anywhere else...but...yeah...lol.


rama putri said:
Plus Toronto men are cheap as dirt. This leads to Toronto women being cautious and pessimistic.
Yup...I've heard that too. Often.
 

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tboy said:
if you're so good with the ladies why do you pay for it?
For myself...

Just because I am typically pretty good with women does not mean that I am always dating or in a relationship. There are also times I just want no strings attached gratification. In my world, when I have sex with a woman, there are pretty well always strings.
 

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tboy said:
Mock? sorry, you're mistaken but that's ok, you've been that way many times before.

And I see why you are so popular with the ladies, you just go by whatever they say no matter what. A perfect example of someone who says a lot, but says nothing.......

I was simply addressing the issue brought up that a woman has to be afraid of all men because of 1.

...but she's already told you what an ass you are. She just was more polite than I would have been.
 

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Thank you. (I would have said it a tad differently. ^_^)
My apologies. It just really upsets me when men think that women should leave their guard down. It's unbelieveable. I didn't mean to use those words. I just wanted to get my point across.

How many sexual assaults are not reported? No one knows.

I know women that have been assaulted and they did not want to report the crime.
 

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Noir said:
Statistics really mean nothing to me tboy (In the words of Disraeli and Mark Twain: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics). Keep in mind that those police reports only come from crimes that are REPORTED - there are many assults/rapes/robberies etc. that go unreported.

Living in this city as a woman requires a different mindset than that of a man who can seemingly walk around without the need to be pro-active for his safety. There are a lot of psychos and crazy people in this world - me having this "extra layer of protection" isn't doing me any harm.

Unlike that friend of yours, I do know people that have been assaulted, date raped etc so taking preventative measures doesn't shove a pickle up my ass.

(Aside: IMHO, Paul Bernardo was attractive thus why I used him in my example.) I am not saying that all men are serial killers, rapists or terrible people. I am also not saying that I give everyone the cold shoulder (read my first post.) I know that I personally would never be able to shake that feeling of responsibility if I were assaulted by someone who I smiled at on the bus. I'd always have that thought in the back of my mind; what if I hadn't.

Thank you. (I would have said it a tad differently. ^_^)
As I said: I'm not advocating doing anything reckless and one does have to be careful. Another misnomer is that men can walk in any area of the city with no problems. There are dangers out there for us to, we just face them differently.

I'm sorry to hear about your friends (acquaintance?) experience but again, not all men are mashers/rapists and the like. Now tell me, this friend who was attacked, was it by a total stranger or someone she knew?
 

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tboy said:
if you're so good with the ladies why do you pay for it?

...are really riled up. I can tell, because your reading comprehension skills are starting to go.

And you wonder why I come here? Where else could I get comedy on this level??? :p
 

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In my world, when I have sex with a woman, there are pretty well always strings.
or hairs :) [I tease-- hope that works out.]

In my case I just like SC tours... Albeit, TERB has opened my eyes to a bunch of stuff and given a long enough dry spell or a long enough relationship who knows.
 

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MLAM said:
...are really riled up. I can tell, because your reading comprehension skills are starting to go.

And you wonder why I come here? Where else could I get comedy on this level??? :p
Yeah yeah yeah, you're trying to tell us that you see escorts but don't pay them. That has about as much basis in reality as the movie series called the Matrix. So tell me Neo? why do you see escorts then?

and no, not riled up, just challenging your BS stories that's all.

Funny, how some on here are arrogant fucks yet see them in person at a terb party and they're about as timid as a churchmouse in a room full of cats.....
 

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Of course he does...

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You find that hare to believe?

...which is why he was complaining earlier.

Shhh...don't wake them. More for us.



(lol @ "hare"...I love unintended humor)
 

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tboy said:
As I said: I'm not advocating doing anything reckless and one does have to be careful. Another misnomer is that men can walk in any area of the city with no problems. There are dangers out there for us to, we just face them differently.
That's true. (But do you have to worry bout getting raped? That is usually one of the last things on a man's mind when they think of danger in the outside world. Especially when approaching a beautiful woman.)

tboy said:
Now tell me, this friend who was attacked, was it by a total stranger or someone she knew?
Total stranger. In more than one case and it went unreported despite the many protests brought up by friends and family.

Anyway, this isn't about crime rates in Toronto.

Let us watch the TBOY/MLAM fight.
The intermission will be the conversation about men and dating in Toronto.
^_^ I have tickets, pop-corn and hotdogs. ^_^ Who has the beer? Al cohol or Esco!?
 
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