Jordan Peterson says Ontario psychologist licence may be suspended over public statements

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So yes, I'm sure there are anecdotes of women working well together. Again, that's not the point. I am just citing very common and repeated polls of women and their preferences.

So again, I am just responding to Knuckle Ball. In the abstract, woman support female leaders. Personally, they have a bias against working for a woman. As I said in my response to KB, it's complicated.

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I dont think so. I would challenge these polls, the demographic groups it was targeted, the inherent bias involved etc.,

In my career, I have always seen women trusting and preferring to work with women, than men. Infact I have explicitly been told that multiple times. I quote a female colleague I once had - "Women prefer working with women because we are not afraid to be vulnerable with each other, which creates more trust".

I have also almost always seen organizations in which the leader is a female, the subsequent positions are all filled by women, not men.
 
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You yourself could cite specific instances that the COP noted and make your case. That doesn't mean everyone is going to agree with your findings. That's the nature of public discourse.

And no, I didn't say anything criticizing your posting of CPO findings. I have found the COP supporters to be generally vague. I hear a lot about how much money Peterson's making.
I could, but that would be once again doing your research for you.
The point is that you didn't do any research and refuse to do so now.
Your mind was made up before you found all the facts.
 
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I could, but that would be once again doing your research for you.
The point is that you didn't do any research and refuse to do so now.
Your mind was made up before you found all the facts.
That's double talk Frank.
You make your best case instead of thinking you're going to hand out research assignments.
362 posts and I get this nonsense "You don't accept the findings of the CPO, who know the profession and what Peterson said?" And now I have to do more research? Seriously, that's an early post in this thread that should've been directed more to general audience.
Incidentally, don't try to track me here and target your responses. That's a form of trolling whether you understand that or not.
 
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I dont think so. I would challenge these polls, the demographic groups it was targeted, the inherent bias involved etc.,

In my career, I have always seen women trusting and preferring to work with women, than men. Infact I have explicitly been told that multiple times. I quote a female colleague I once had - "Women prefer working with women because we are not afraid to be vulnerable with each other, which creates more trust".

I have also almost always seen organizations in which the leader is a female, the subsequent positions are all filled by women, not men.
What would you like me to do find a way to scrub the countless polls on the internet that support this finding because you feel there is inherent bias?

I can offer a anecdote of my own. I manage large teams and I always have to be cognizant of female managers to female staff dynamics. Guys, they don't give a shit about liking their boss, being friends with their boss, etc. They just get past that. I would say it's getting better because women are getting better at what I call team dynamics. No, we don't all have to be buddies to do the job. Still, I can take a group of male employees (including the female employees of course) who aren't friendly out for drinks. Women employees are more finicky about interpersonal relationships with female co-workers.

This is a generalization of course just like yours.

By the way, this seems like a bit of projection: "Women prefer working with women because we are not afraid to be vulnerable with each other, which creates more trust". Somehow the polling doesn't pick this up. I don't think you can find one study that supports your POV.

This video is in regards to a study in Australia. This female Australian researcher found that 80% women preferred working for men. So I know it's not just an American thing. In fact, she said ".......if you go to the literature, there's huge studies all replicating these findings. Gallup in the U.S. has tracked this for sixty years and we're still not shifting the data too much."

 

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That's double talk Frank.
You make your best case instead of thinking you're going to hand out research assignments.
362 posts and I get this nonsense "You don't accept the findings of the CPO, who know the profession and what Peterson said?" And now I have to do more research? Seriously, that's an early post in this thread that should've been directed more to general audience.
Incidentally, don't try to track me here and target your responses. That's a form of trolling whether you understand that or not.
No, Wyatt, its not double talk.
This has happened in other threads where you've stated you won't read legit sources that are handed to you.
You did it again in this thread.

You were given the CPO statements, multiple quotes and references from Peterson's tweets and statements.
Your response was 'Are you trying to say it's wrong to ask questions of authority?'

I'd say asking questions when you've been given the answers to your questions repeatedly is just a reminder that you refuse to check anything that runs against your own confirmation bias.
 

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Seriously?!?!.... Dinesh?!?!?!....

The dude who did the ludicrous "200 Mules" dum-dum movie?!

That and the Shapiro shit is just proof that these assholes grift together and use each other's stunts to grift further. The issue with Doc Pee is he's no longer a legit professional. He's joined ranks with the liars and simp-milkers.
 

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What would you like me to do find a way to scrub the countless polls on the internet that support this finding because you feel there is inherent bias?

I can offer a anecdote of my own. I manage large teams and I always have to be cognizant of female managers to female staff dynamics. Guys, they don't give a shit about liking their boss, being friends with their boss, etc. They just get past that. I would say it's getting better because women are getting better at what I call team dynamics. No, we don't all have to be buddies to do the job. Still, I can take a group of male employees (including the female employees of course) who aren't friendly out for drinks. Women employees are more finicky about interpersonal relationships with female co-workers.

This is a generalization of course just like yours.

By the way, this seems like a bit of projection: "Women prefer working with women because we are not afraid to be vulnerable with each other, which creates more trust". Somehow the polling doesn't pick this up. I don't think you can find one study that supports your POV.

This video is in regards to a study in Australia. This female Australian researcher found that 80% women preferred working for men. So I know it's not just an American thing. In fact, she said ".......if you go to the literature, there's huge studies all replicating these findings. Gallup in the U.S. has tracked this for sixty years and we're still not shifting the data too much."

Oh look!... A morning talk show pretending to be science!

😧 :LOL: 😺 🐸 🙀 :geek: 😸😹😧
 

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Yeah! She's a grifter!! 😉
Well, what would you call it?

I could surf Tiktok and look for dumbass Proud Boy and Oathkeeper types and hardcore anti vaxxers and post them in a silly thread on TERB and call it a silly name..... and I do.

But I wouldn't suggest it's mainstream GOP / right of centre thinking. (Most Republicans don't quite yet publicly state that they believe the Lizard-aliens run America. Although who knows, give it a couple of years.... )
 
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Oh look!... A morning talk show pretending to be science!

😧 :LOL: 😺 🐸 🙀 :geek: 😸😹😧
I suppose you can dismiss decades of studies on the internet if it doesn't fit your worldview.

Unlike Frank's line of reasoning above, I also referenced the key point out of the video so one didn't have to sit through a video clip. In any event, the woman cites Gallup.`Perhaps she's making it all up for television.
 
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mandrill is of the persuasion that men and women are identical in all respects other than physical strength.

Temperament, personality, interests, mating strategies, are identical.

Of course, his position is nonsense, but first hand experience and scientific data won't move change his opinion. These well established differences manifest themselves in the job market, academics, dating market, relationships, law, and every facet of life. But it's ideologically essential for him to be right, even when he's obviously wrong.
 
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I would call it entertainment with a POV. One can take from it what one wants.
From which she derives a significant income. And which is presented under false pretences. But it's not grifting. Of course not.
 

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mandrill is of the persuasion that men and women are identical in all respects other than physical strength.

Temperament, personality, interests, mating strategies, are identical.

Of course, his position is nonsense, but first hand experience and scientific data won't move change his opinion. It's ideologically essential for him to be right, even when he's obviously wrong.
There are truth seekers who are curious about the world and how it works no matter where that takes them. Then there are truth keepers who believe they know and defend the truth. No one fits into one category all the time, but you do see the dominant characteristics in some.

Truth keepers can also come at things from right wing dogma. Several of the posters labeled "right wing" here are fairly pragmatic in my opinion. Truth keepers don't care for pragmatism either. In the TERB stew, pragmatists just interfere with the truth.

Truth keeping seems like an oppressive burden to shoulder while navigating this world.
 
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