Jordan Peterson says Ontario psychologist licence may be suspended over public statements

krealtarron

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There's that word again.....When on the attack....Default to calling your foe a ''grifter''.
Ive always called him a grifter. He is one.
 

krealtarron

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Think hard on this one. Is there anybody that you disagree with politically that isn't a ''grifter''?
Depends on the person.

I disagree with Greta Thunberg on climate change for example. I dont consider her a grifter.
 
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Depends on the person.

I disagree with Greta Thunberg on climate change for example. I dont consider her a grifter.
LOL......Jeez Louise even I would call her that. I don't think I ever have said that though but I think about it.

I figure she's on the spectrum though and is just being manipulated so move on from her.
 

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You are correct. I have read his last two books and can confirm he lives up to all of his rules.

Glad we got that cleared up....
Oh please.
You are trying to tell me that this man lives up to: 6, 8 9 or 10?
I could probably argue for more, but these will do.
 

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The CPO clearly disagrees.

The fact that Peterson basically gave the CPO investigators the middle finger and told them that he was not going to waste his time responding to these complaints probably didn’t help him, either.

Peterson’s arrogance always winds up getting him into trouble…but it simultaneously fuels him to be this way. Just like he insisted on having himself put into a medically induced coma to treat his barbiturate addiction- no reputable physician in North America would do it because it would be malpractice so he goes to some “clinic” in Eastern Europe to have this done. Like seriously…the man takes everything to it’s most extreme.

That's my point... there is a lot to disagree about when there is no way of clearly deciding what is true. Malpractice is defined by a group of people who believe there is a right way, professional standards are agreed upon by a group of people, regardless of who decides what is right, it doesn't mean that it's right, just that it's agreed upon, That's why we have concepts like academic freedom and the freedom of speech, just because one groups beliefs are hegemonic doesn't mean they are right or true, hence controversy, debate and dialogue may lead to a better set of beliefs. Until someone then challenge's those beliefs and perhaps a new paradigm establishes itself. Sanctioning and silencing someone for their beliefs prevents or delays this from happening at worst and can lead to horrendous violence. Today's belief will one day be viewed as wrong-headed, superstitious or another example of group hysteria. A little humbleness on the part of everyone might lead to a better outcome. I'm no friend of any group that believes they know what is true, especially when it comes to human affairs. If you don't believe me, then read some of the books that Peterson suggests or speak to people who have lived in countries that have repressive or authoritarian regimes.

Personally, I've had my fill of interacting with fanatics who will forcefully assert all manner of nonsense and then try to force me into believing that 2+2=5

Believe what you want to believe but allow me to believe what I want to believe and lets agree to disagree if that's the best we can do.
 

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He is angry, than crying, most of the times. Thats why he is emotional.

I dont care much about JP. Some of what he says is okay. I just consider him a grifter.
Translation: I'm a partisan hack. I can't admit that JP is an outstanding highly intelligent person whose views I agree with. But to stay safely within my predefined political sphere I'll attack him by calling him emotional and pretend that he is weak for crying. Then I'll use the penultimate label that will really get hi-fives from my side of the political aisle... I'll call him a grifter.

Tate doesn't cry and is descended directly from a genius (his father). He's also a big guy and athletic. I have to pull out the big guns to shut him down or I might be seen as sympathetic to him by my peers. Therefore, with no evidence produced, he's a misogynist, trafficker, abuser, and pimp.

Finally, I detest incels. I hate them. I don't even know why but I do because the media told me to. The media says they're subhuman scum, so that's what they are. The media also told me that incels are somehow linked to JP and AT, therefore I must ensure I hate them passionately.
 

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The guy who is telling others not to post in an echo chamber thread is the same guy who is calling people Manginas in the same thread. WTF.
If a mangina is big enough, you can certainly hear an echo.
 

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JP might call this stupid, and he'd be right:


The people that complain about patriarchy, safe spaces for women, and mansplaining will defend men like this running and taking over women's spaces in sport, education, employment, and entertainment lol.

Men keep winning, in any shape or form they take.
 
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What's interesting is when you talk to people in daily life, all of them find this woke stuff absurd.

It's only online in places like TERB and Twitter where you have these packs of weirdos that come out in full force defending this garbage. Even on Facebook, you'll get laugh mocking emojis on stories like this because everyone recognizes how stupid it is.

But again, on TERB you'll have people fighting tooth and nail trying to convince you that this is progress and should be normalized.
 
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That's my point... there is a lot to disagree about when there is no way of clearly deciding what is true.
Not true. We know exactly what Peterson has said in his Tweets and YOUTUBE videos.



Malpractice is defined by a group of people who believe there is a right way, professional standards are agreed upon by a group of people, regardless of who decides what is right, it doesn't mean that it's right, just that it's agreed upon,
Yes. That’s how a professional college works. It exists to protect the public and prevent “snake oil salesmen” from engaging in practice that may harm the public and/or bring the profession into disrepute


That's why we have concepts like academic freedom and the freedom of speech, just because one groups beliefs are hegemonic doesn't mean they are right or true, hence controversy, debate and dialogue may lead to a better set of beliefs. Until someone then challenge's those beliefs and perhaps a new paradigm establishes itself. Sanctioning and silencing someone for their beliefs prevents or delays this from happening at worst and can lead to horrendous violence.
The College’ response to what you are saying would be that their role is to protect the public from crackpots who dispense unprofessional advice that contradicts the college’s standards and practices and may cause harm to the community.

If you wish to be a member of any professional college it means that you are buying into the way they do things and practice accordingly. If you want to be a “free thinker” and spout off anything that you wish then you can’t be part of the college.
 
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krealtarron

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Translation: I'm a partisan hack. I can't admit that JP is an outstanding highly intelligent person whose views I agree with. But to stay safely within my predefined political sphere I'll attack him by calling him emotional and pretend that he is weak for crying. Then I'll use the penultimate label that will really get hi-fives from my side of the political aisle... I'll call him a grifter.

Tate doesn't cry and is descended directly from a genius (his father). He's also a big guy and athletic. I have to pull out the big guns to shut him down or I might be seen as sympathetic to him by my peers. Therefore, with no evidence produced, he's a misogynist, trafficker, abuser, and pimp.

Finally, I detest incels. I hate them. I don't even know why but I do because the media told me to. The media says they're subhuman scum, so that's what they are. The media also told me that incels are somehow linked to JP and AT, therefore I must ensure I hate them passionately.
Thats a pretty long translation for a two liner. Are you sure its a translation and not just you ranting and regurgitating the same shit over and over again, despite evidence to the contrary?
 

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… speak to people who have lived in countries that have repressive or authoritarian regimes.
These people may have been traumatized but they have no moral or intellectual superiority.
Also, they are an easy prey for ultra right because they are easily tricked into believing that the left equals communism as if Sweden equals North Korea.
 
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What's interesting is when you talk to people in daily life, all of them find this woke stuff absurd.

It's only online in places like TERB and Twitter where you have these packs of weirdos that come out in full force defending this garbage. Even on Facebook, you'll get laugh mocking emojis on stories like this because everyone recognizes how stupid it is.

But again, on TERB you'll have people fighting tooth and nail trying to convince you that this is progress and should be normalized.
Its interesting when you talk to people in daily life, they find rapist pimps like AT despicable.

Even on Facebook, you will get laugh mocking emojis on Tate and his antics.

But only on TERB will you have the righties come out of the wood work to glorify a scumbag.

See? Two can play that game.
 

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I'm saying why do you think you might know more about psychologist's professional standards than the experts in the field?
If you actually would read my words on the page I rarely speak in absolutes. You challenged my original statement "I just don't know if anything he says or advocates is really black and white a violation of his profession." So after 362 posts debating the nature of Peterson's professional violations you thought you would offer a challenge to me personally of "You don't accept the findings of the CPO, who know the profession and what Peterson said?" Apparently, quite a few members don't Frank.

I'm actually not quite sure why I am singled out as the beneficiary of such banality. Sometimes I think I am the only conservative who doesn't have you on ignore.
 
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That's my point... there is a lot to disagree about when there is no way of clearly deciding what is true. Malpractice is defined by a group of people who believe there is a right way, professional standards are agreed upon by a group of people, regardless of who decides what is right, it doesn't mean that it's right, just that it's agreed upon,
There's nothing sneakier than when a bunch of senior psychologists agree on professional standards. And they're probably wrong anyway. I mean, what do they know about their own profession.

That's why we have concepts like academic freedom and the freedom of speech, just because one groups beliefs are hegemonic doesn't mean they are right or true, hence controversy, debate and dialogue may lead to a better set of beliefs. Until someone then challenge's those beliefs and perhaps a new paradigm establishes itself. Sanctioning and silencing someone for their beliefs prevents or delays this from happening at worst and can lead to horrendous violence. Today's belief will one day be viewed as wrong-headed, superstitious or another example of group hysteria. A little humbleness on the part of everyone might lead to a better outcome. I'm no friend of any group that believes they know what is true, especially when it comes to human affairs. If you don't believe me, then read some of the books that Peterson suggests or speak to people who have lived in countries that have repressive or authoritarian regimes.
Ok, but you miss the point. Doc Pee can tilt at other shrinks on issues in psychotherapy all he wants. But the CPO doesn't want him ranting about vaccines being a conspiracy by the corporate elite in his role as a psychologist. DP knows fuck about vaccines and it's not professionally appropriate for him to talk about them in his professional role.
 

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You must spend several hours a day reading literally 100's of "patriot" Twitter pages who tell you about the woke conspiracy to make you take dangerous and useless COVID vaccines and to "groom" young children into whatever tf is the "outrage of the week" in Patriot-world.

Did anyone - aside from your rightie, grifter Twitter guy - actually think that Ms USA was an "imperialist"?

My own reaction was that the moon seemed a little heavy for a petite, slender girl, but the costume was pretty.
 
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