The Blue Jays currently have 5 starting pitchers on the injured list. They are Trey Yesavage, Jose Berrios, Shane Beiber, Patrick Corbin and Cody Ponce. That is a good starting 5 that is on the sidelines. These starting pitchers being out combined with the lack of offence is a huge problem. Even if they do make the wild card, they have very little chance of advancing. I think the Blue Jays should give up the dream of the wild card and tank for a better draft pick.
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Add Barger, Santander and Kirk who has just got form back and Vlad on offense and the reason they are not contending is obvious
Not Schnieider fault or mnagement
The Jays signed Michael Lorenzen as a free agent on Thursday, after he had been released by the Colorado Rockies. They waited until after he cleared waivers so as not to be obliged to assume the balance of his $9 Million 1 year contract. They will instead pay him the Major League minimum prorated for about 20% of the season, and the Rockies will pay the balance owed.
Lorenzen can start or relieve. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets a few pinch hit at bats as well. The dude has 7 career home runs, and a .710 career OPS in 133 career at bats, higher than the seasonal average of two thirds of all players who have batted for the Jays this year, with three of the eight above him currently on the injured list, and none of those three have more than 52 at bats this year for Toronto. He's also comparable to Jesus Sanchez defensively as an emergency outfielder.
Lorenzen pitched a no-hitter for the Philadelphia Phillies in 2023, in his only career complete game and shutout from 144 starts.
Lorenzen can start or relieve. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets a few pinch hit at bats as well. The dude has 7 career home runs, and a .710 career OPS in 133 career at bats, higher than the seasonal average of two thirds of all players who have batted for the Jays this year, with three of the eight above him currently on the injured list, and none of those three have more than 52 at bats this year for Toronto. He's also comparable to Jesus Sanchez defensively as an emergency outfielder.
Lorenzen pitched a no-hitter for the Philadelphia Phillies in 2023, in his only career complete game and shutout from 144 starts.
Interesting signing that speaks of desperation
He cleared waivers for a reason
My thoughts are the Jays are desperate to compete for, not win, the last WC so the fans will come
and if I owned the Jays so would I want the $. Winning the WC would be a bonus
This was not supposed to happen when they signed Vlad as they were expecting playoffs every year
WTF do they expect ? Sports is a hard job to excel at and harder to keep excelling as the competition is aware of you
With no financial pressure to excel WTF does management expect from vlad?
He cleared waivers for a reason
My thoughts are the Jays are desperate to compete for, not win, the last WC so the fans will come
and if I owned the Jays so would I want the $. Winning the WC would be a bonus
This was not supposed to happen when they signed Vlad as they were expecting playoffs every year
WTF do they expect ? Sports is a hard job to excel at and harder to keep excelling as the competition is aware of you
With no financial pressure to excel WTF does management expect from vlad?
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The Jays need someone who can eat innings, with so many starting pitchers on the IL. I don't think Lorenzen is as bad as his 7+ ERA in Colorado would indicate, but there aren't many available alternatives at league minimum at this time of year.
They don't have any AAA pitchers currently capable of pitching multiple innings at the Major League level, and nobody at AA ready to jump two levels. All season long they've been signing other teams' castoffs, and adding them to the Major League roster. This is what they have to do when they're well over the salary cap and they have little tradable talent of interest to other teams. Sure, they've had bad luck with injuries, but other teams have had worse.
The team doesn't have a viable multiyear plan to be a true contender because they have few players whose market value exceeds their cost, so there's no opportunity to find trading partners willing to assume the liability of a bloated multiyear contract obligation. Instead of rebuilding, they retool, like sewing patches on a worn out pair of pants instead of buying a new one.
While the Jays are only 3 ½ games away from the 3rd wildcard spot, they're also only 5 games away from 25th overall in Major League standings. If they are in the bottom 6 after the draft lottery, their first pick next July won't drop 10 spots because of their Cap situation.
Other teams have been recognizing the value of signing their future stars to long term extensions at or near the beginnings of their careers. The Jays have stuck to the old model of paying non-arbitration eligible players as little as possible for as long as possible, and worrying about the future later. This is the future of past mistakes made.
The Tampa Bay Rays are usually competitive year after year, despite having a 2026 payroll slightly more than a third of the Jays'. They accomplish this by concentrating on scouting and player development, and letting their free agents walk if their future cost is likely to exceed their future market value production. The Jays try to 'win now' by overpaying for free agents, and frequently choosing the wrong ones, or lose out to more enviable destinations than playing on artificial turf in Canada.
Someone with 100K to spend could buy blue chip stocks or invest with a capital management firm, and have a reasonable expectation that the value of their investment would grow at a rate faster than inflation. Alternatively, they could buy 50,000 $2 scratch lottery tickets. The latter MIGHT yield a bigger payoff, but the former is much more likely to.
Do you happen to know what his ERA was at home versus his ERA on the road in the time he was with Colorado???
I hope Dylan Cease doesn't win the Cy Young, that trinket is a bit of a jinx...remember Robbie Ray.
Is George Springer playing to stay with the club? Chris Bassitt didn't want to leave Toronto, he was at the point of tears when Hazel interviewed him.
Is George Springer playing to stay with the club? Chris Bassitt didn't want to leave Toronto, he was at the point of tears when Hazel interviewed him.
The tribute to Buck Martinez was great, and he deserved it. Kudos to the Blue Jay organization for doing a great job with it.
Conspicuous by his absence was Jerry Haworth. Tom Cheek's widow was present and acknowledged, but no one from Haworth's camp. I'm wondering if he had a falling out with the organization. He should have been put in the ring of excellence(or whatever it's called) years ago.
Conspicuous by his absence was Jerry Haworth. Tom Cheek's widow was present and acknowledged, but no one from Haworth's camp. I'm wondering if he had a falling out with the organization. He should have been put in the ring of excellence(or whatever it's called) years ago.
Thanks. If I'm reading it correctly his home ERA was 8.94, while his away ERA was 5.61. Both high, but significantly higher at home. I was curious because Colorado has a reputation for being unkind to pitchers.
Expect to see a few more over-priced veterans on expiring contracts to be cut loose before midnight on Monday. Teams doing this will be non contenders looking to shed a bit of salary. Teams claiming them will be contention hopefuls looking to add some talent at only financial cost. The Mets just cut Luis Robert Jr.
Players acquired after midnight on Monday will be ineligible to play in the postseason.
Some team might add Eugenio Suarez, who has already cleared waivers. He has 345 career home runs, including 20 this year and two seasons with 49, including last year.
Players acquired after midnight on Monday will be ineligible to play in the postseason.
Some team might add Eugenio Suarez, who has already cleared waivers. He has 345 career home runs, including 20 this year and two seasons with 49, including last year.
The Alomar blackballing was more public because Alomar's problems were public.
I'd love to see Henke and the late Duane Ward go in together.
Duane Ward had the nastiest curveball ever seen in MLB.
Keeping Robbie and Barry Bonds out of the HOF is pure bullshit. Ty Cobb, Kenesaw Landis and Enos Slaughter were all insane racists and all in the HOF. In 1947 Slaughter tried to lead a strike in MLB when Jackie was called up to the Dodgers. He would eat a watermelon in the dugout when Jackie came to bat. He would attempt to injure Jackie whenever they crossed paths. Branch Rickey told Robinson that he no longer needed to be diplomat at the start of the 1949 season. When they played the Cardinals, Jackie hit Slaughter with a forearm shiver that would make Scott Stevens proud.
Chadwick Boseman was sensational (RIP).
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b0TLJoQ8uFs
Sean Keys had a great season in AAA, (28 Home Runs, in 357 AB; 1.019 OPS), but failed to impress during his initial taste of The Show, (.167 batting average, 13 strikeouts in 36 at bats). Keys is a corner infielder, so if he can translate his AAA numbers to the Majors, in a best case scenario he might share the 1B, 3B and DH roles with Okamoto and Vlad if all three are healthy after George Springer's contract expires at the end of the month.
29 year old Daz Cameron had 5 hits in 24 at bats for the Jays as another lottery ticket which didn't pan out. In doing so, he raised his career batting average to .200436 from exactly .200.
Departing Sebastien Rodriguez is a 20 year old pitcher signed by the Blue Jays in June, 2026. The incoming Rodriguez, Jose, is 25 years old and he may have had recent arm surgery. He was on the Dodgers' minor league injury list from May, 2025 until June, 2026. What stands out for me is his 12.6 strikeouts per nine innings in his minor league career.
The Dodgers signed Rodriguez in 2019, so their logic in dealing him may have to do with not having a spot for him on the 40 man roster. He's never played in the Majors, but he will be eligible for the Rule 5 Draft in December if he's not protected.
Ricky Tiedemann was at one time rated as the top left handed starter in the minors, but he's had arm trouble and has pitched only 30 innings at all levels combined in the last three seasons. He'll make slightly less than $150K additional income this year if the Jays keep him on the Major League roster for the rest of this month.
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Barry Bonds like the rest of the steroid induced lads will never get in...Thankfully.
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That poster kind of makes things up as goes along.
Historians and baseball contemporaries disagree on whether Enos Slaughter was personally racist, though his legacy is deeply connected to serious allegations of racial hostility during the integration of Major League Baseball.The 1947 Strike AllegationsThe Claim: Sportswriters alleged that in May 1947, Slaughter and teammate Terry Moore tried to convince St. Louis Cardinals players to strike rather than play against Jackie Robinson, the first Black player in the modern National League.The Denial: Slaughter vehemently denied these claims for the rest of his life, calling the stories "a lot of baloney" and stating that accusations arose simply because he was a "Southern boy". Some baseball historians also question whether the planned strike ever actually had truth to it.The Spiking IncidentThe Event: Later in the 1947 season, Slaughter hit an infield ground ball and was thrown out by Robinson at first base; as Robinson stretched to make the catch, Slaughter spiked him in the leg, causing a severe seven-inch gash.The Intent: Critics viewed the slide as a malicious, racially motivated attack. Slaughter and other defenders maintained it was just part of his fierce, "old-school" playing style, with Slaughter stating he ran over anyone who got in his way regardless of who they were. Contemporaries also noted he had a reputation as one of the dirtiest or most intense players in the league regardless of race.Legacy and Public ReceptionHall of Fame Delay: Because of these lingering racial controversies,
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