Jays 2026 Thread
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What the Jays have to do is win all the series against their WC competitors, Not every game just the series
The positive is
Amazingly, with a month left to play not one team they will play has a 500 average
The WC is in their hands to win or lose 100%
But
Vlad is not gonna hit homers like a superstar because he never has
ONE YEAR HE HIT OVER 40 DURING COVID WHEN THEY PLAYED IN MINOR LEAGUE PARKS
He is a solid 25 homer guy up to this year where he is not even close to average player in homers or power
Jays have put a lot of effort trying to get his swing back with 0 results yet they play him like he will all of a sudden
He should be at bottom of lineup and not play against some pitchers at all like the way they treat other bench players. You put them in against the pitchers they can hit
Does not look good but the jays will, at least, be technically in it until the last week which is what the Jays want - a full stadium
The positive is
Amazingly, with a month left to play not one team they will play has a 500 average
The WC is in their hands to win or lose 100%
But
Vlad is not gonna hit homers like a superstar because he never has
ONE YEAR HE HIT OVER 40 DURING COVID WHEN THEY PLAYED IN MINOR LEAGUE PARKS
He is a solid 25 homer guy up to this year where he is not even close to average player in homers or power
Jays have put a lot of effort trying to get his swing back with 0 results yet they play him like he will all of a sudden
He should be at bottom of lineup and not play against some pitchers at all like the way they treat other bench players. You put them in against the pitchers they can hit
Does not look good but the jays will, at least, be technically in it until the last week which is what the Jays want - a full stadium
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If the Jays miss the playoffs again this year (for the ninth time in Shatkins’ 11 years in charge), please for the love of fuck, Rogers, FIRE SHATKINS.
They’ve been an unmitigated disaster. Only two playoff appearances in 11 seasons (the wildcard is NOT the playoffs; it’s a glorified tiebreaker, a Game 163). Caught lightning in a bottle last year and choked away a 3-2 World Series lead at home.
Fuck Shatkins! Throw the bums out!
They’ve been an unmitigated disaster. Only two playoff appearances in 11 seasons (the wildcard is NOT the playoffs; it’s a glorified tiebreaker, a Game 163). Caught lightning in a bottle last year and choked away a 3-2 World Series lead at home.
Fuck Shatkins! Throw the bums out!
Bieber placed on 15 day IL with right shoulder inflammation, there goes the season, just when he was back to his normal self.
BP game today.
BP game today.
Major League leaders in innings pitched, through games of August 25.
It's entirely possible that no pitcher in the American League will pitch 200 innings this year.
In the 1996 season, 49 Major League pitchers threw 200 or more innings. 61 did it in 1976, when there were six few teams. There's a tiny chance that Michael Wacha could win the AL ERA title, because he's the only pitcher so far who has the minimum 162 innings to qualify.
It's entirely possible that no pitcher in the American League will pitch 200 innings this year.
In the 1996 season, 49 Major League pitchers threw 200 or more innings. 61 did it in 1976, when there were six few teams. There's a tiny chance that Michael Wacha could win the AL ERA title, because he's the only pitcher so far who has the minimum 162 innings to qualify.
The issue is simple
If you do not hit homers then you have to hit singles with runners on base to score runs and win
Jays cannot hit homers which is a surprise but Barger is out, Santander is out, Kirk was out and Vlad is a mystery that cannot be solved
so that explains it
They do get runners on base but fail to drive them in
Our team is designed after last years team where the power bats hit homers and the rest of the team hit singles so the power could drive them in
Next year looks weak with Santander and Barger very questionable and why should Vlad start hitting homers next year ?????
If you do not hit homers then you have to hit singles with runners on base to score runs and win
Jays cannot hit homers which is a surprise but Barger is out, Santander is out, Kirk was out and Vlad is a mystery that cannot be solved
so that explains it
They do get runners on base but fail to drive them in
Our team is designed after last years team where the power bats hit homers and the rest of the team hit singles so the power could drive them in
Next year looks weak with Santander and Barger very questionable and why should Vlad start hitting homers next year ?????
My grandpa passed away last year. One of our last memories of him alive was of me and my mom visiting him in the hospital and a few TVs in the hallway were showing Mariners Jays Game 7. We heard loud cheers when Springer hit that homer. My mother even peeked outside our room to see that the Jays were leading. Sometimes sports do lighten the mood a little.
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Nice. I had the same experience with my terminally ill Uncle in the spring of 2004. Just about everyone on the floor had the Leafs/Senators playoff game on their tv.
My Uncle passed away the day they were eliminated. They would miss the playoffs the next 10 out of 11 years. Our family used to joke he knew this was going to happen so he didn't bother sticking around.
Our family (specifically my mom and aunts) was grieving too much to make light of my grandpa’s passing. I avoid talking about him around them because it still feels like a sensitive topic, unless they voluntarily bring it up.
However at the funeral, I saw a cousin and got to catch up with him afterwards. We joked about things like how the Dodgers deliberately dragged on the World Series for MLB revenue when they could have easily swept the Jays if they had tried from the get-go. So at least there’s that.
The Blue Jays currently have 5 starting pitchers on the injured list. They are Trey Yesavage, Jose Berrios, Shane Beiber, Patrick Corbin and Cody Ponce. That is a good starting 5 that is on the sidelines. These starting pitchers being out combined with the lack of offence is a huge problem. Even if they do make the wild card, they have very little chance of advancing. I think the Blue Jays should give up the dream of the wild card and tank for a better draft pick.
Add Barger, Santander and Kirk who has just got form back and Vlad on offense and the reason they are not contending is obvious
Not Schnieider fault or mnagement
The Jays signed Michael Lorenzen as a free agent on Thursday, after he had been released by the Colorado Rockies. They waited until after he cleared waivers so as not to be obliged to assume the balance of his $9 Million 1 year contract. They will instead pay him the Major League minimum prorated for about 20% of the season, and the Rockies will pay the balance owed.
Lorenzen can start or relieve. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets a few pinch hit at bats as well. The dude has 7 career home runs, and a .710 career OPS in 133 career at bats, higher than the seasonal average of two thirds of all players who have batted for the Jays this year, with three of the eight above him currently on the injured list, and none of those three have more than 52 at bats this year for Toronto. He's also comparable to Jesus Sanchez defensively as an emergency outfielder.
Lorenzen pitched a no-hitter for the Philadelphia Phillies in 2023, in his only career complete game and shutout from 144 starts.
Lorenzen can start or relieve. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets a few pinch hit at bats as well. The dude has 7 career home runs, and a .710 career OPS in 133 career at bats, higher than the seasonal average of two thirds of all players who have batted for the Jays this year, with three of the eight above him currently on the injured list, and none of those three have more than 52 at bats this year for Toronto. He's also comparable to Jesus Sanchez defensively as an emergency outfielder.
Lorenzen pitched a no-hitter for the Philadelphia Phillies in 2023, in his only career complete game and shutout from 144 starts.
Interesting signing that speaks of desperation
He cleared waivers for a reason
My thoughts are the Jays are desperate to compete for, not win, the last WC so the fans will come
and if I owned the Jays so would I want the $. Winning the WC would be a bonus
This was not supposed to happen when they signed Vlad as they were expecting playoffs every year
WTF do they expect ? Sports is a hard job to excel at and harder to keep excelling as the competition is aware of you
With no financial pressure to excel WTF does management expect from vlad?
He cleared waivers for a reason
My thoughts are the Jays are desperate to compete for, not win, the last WC so the fans will come
and if I owned the Jays so would I want the $. Winning the WC would be a bonus
This was not supposed to happen when they signed Vlad as they were expecting playoffs every year
WTF do they expect ? Sports is a hard job to excel at and harder to keep excelling as the competition is aware of you
With no financial pressure to excel WTF does management expect from vlad?
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The Jays need someone who can eat innings, with so many starting pitchers on the IL. I don't think Lorenzen is as bad as his 7+ ERA in Colorado would indicate, but there aren't many available alternatives at league minimum at this time of year.
They don't have any AAA pitchers currently capable of pitching multiple innings at the Major League level, and nobody at AA ready to jump two levels. All season long they've been signing other teams' castoffs, and adding them to the Major League roster. This is what they have to do when they're well over the salary cap and they have little tradable talent of interest to other teams. Sure, they've had bad luck with injuries, but other teams have had worse.
The team doesn't have a viable multiyear plan to be a true contender because they have few players whose market value exceeds their cost, so there's no opportunity to find trading partners willing to assume the liability of a bloated multiyear contract obligation. Instead of rebuilding, they retool, like sewing patches on a worn out pair of pants instead of buying a new one.
While the Jays are only 3 ½ games away from the 3rd wildcard spot, they're also only 5 games away from 25th overall in Major League standings. If they are in the bottom 6 after the draft lottery, their first pick next July won't drop 10 spots because of their Cap situation.
Other teams have been recognizing the value of signing their future stars to long term extensions at or near the beginnings of their careers. The Jays have stuck to the old model of paying non-arbitration eligible players as little as possible for as long as possible, and worrying about the future later. This is the future of past mistakes made.
The Tampa Bay Rays are usually competitive year after year, despite having a 2026 payroll slightly more than a third of the Jays'. They accomplish this by concentrating on scouting and player development, and letting their free agents walk if their future cost is likely to exceed their future market value production. The Jays try to 'win now' by overpaying for free agents, and frequently choosing the wrong ones, or lose out to more enviable destinations than playing on artificial turf in Canada.
Someone with 100K to spend could buy blue chip stocks or invest with a capital management firm, and have a reasonable expectation that the value of their investment would grow at a rate faster than inflation. Alternatively, they could buy 50,000 $2 scratch lottery tickets. The latter MIGHT yield a bigger payoff, but the former is much more likely to.
