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If there's firing, it's gotta be both of them.
And Shapeero likely isn’t going anywhere because he’s in the middle of ballpark renovations. He is still making big money for Rogers.

I would focus more on coaching changes. John Schneider, and that hitting coach need to go. We need to fill up these positions, with fan favourite old school old blood immediately.

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… my picture perfect within reach dream outfield next year - Gurriel in left, Varsho in center, Springer in right….. platoon Hernandez between DH and right….platoon Snyder between 2nd and left.

Fire John Schneider and fire the hitting coach, get Jose Bautistas ass in there asap doing something. Hitting coach perhaps? Bring back Gibby….and I will buy season tickets :).

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… my picture perfect within reach dream outfield next year - Gurriel in left, Varsho in center, Springer in right….. platoon Hernandez between DH and right….platoon Snyder between 2nd and left.

Fire John Schneider and fire the hitting coach, get Jose Bautistas ass in there asap doing something. Hitting coach perhaps? Bring back Gibby….and I will buy season tickets :).

Philip
Who's Snyder?
 
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The moustache guy lol **Davis Schneider my mistake.

I like him. He has shown he has the ability to adjust to how the league pitches him. He slumped towards the end, and hasn’t fully figured it out yet, but he will.

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The moustache guy lol **Davis Schneider my mistake.

I like him. He has shown he has the ability to adjust to how the league pitches him. He slumped towards the end, and hasn’t fully figured it out yet, but he will.

Philip
I have a slightly different take.

He started off gangbusters for a couple of weeks but it wasn't that he went into a slump. He started working with the Jays' hitting coach and then went 0 fer 31.
 

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I have a slightly different take.

He started off gangbusters for a couple of weeks but it wasn't that he went into a slump. He started working with the Jays' hitting coach and then went 0 fer 31.
Lol who is the hell is this hitting coach? He is messing everybody up. Maybe he is a sports bet dude, and he’s doing this on purpose.

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… my picture perfect within reach dream outfield next year - Gurriel in left, Varsho in center, Springer in right….. platoon Hernandez between DH and right….platoon Snyder between 2nd and left.

Fire John Schneider and fire the hitting coach, get Jose Bautistas ass in there asap doing something. Hitting coach perhaps? Bring back Gibby….and I will buy season tickets :).

Philip
Gibby was never an analytics guy and certainly not one to follow direction. I loved him though BTW.

I doubt Varsho would come back With a WAR of 3.9 he would have some value on the free agent market.
 

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Gibby was never an analytics guy and certainly not one to follow direction. I loved him though BTW.

I doubt Varsho would come back With a WAR of 3.9 he would have some value on the free agent market.
Gibby is amazing. I just finished spending time with him in San Antonio. We had dinner on the Riverwalk.

I’m kidding.

are you talking about Varsho or somebody else? Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for years. I still think he can turn it around eventually. I like him as next year’s every day centerfielder.

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are you talking about Varsho or somebody else? Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for years. I still think he can turn it around eventually. I like him as next year’s every day centerfielder.
At the time I thought the Jays needed a left-handed bat.
 

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Lol who is the hell is this hitting coach? He is messing everybody up. Maybe he is a sports bet dude, and he’s doing this on purpose.

Philip
from wikipedia:

Guillermo Martínez is the hitting coach of the Toronto Blue Jays.

In 2009, Martínez hit .304 with three home runs, 31 RBI, and 28 stolen bases for the Windy City ThunderBolts of the independent Frontier League. He split the 2010 season with the ThunderBolts and the Lake County Fielders of the Northern League, and played his final season of professional baseball with the American Association's Grand Prairie AirHogs in 2011.
 

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Gibby is amazing. I just finished spending time with him in San Antonio. We had dinner on the Riverwalk.

I’m kidding.

are you talking about Varsho or somebody else? Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for years. I still think he can turn it around eventually. I like him as next year’s every day centerfielder.

Philip
You are correct and I am error. I didn't realize that he is signed until 2027.
 

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Just repeating what I heard on the radio.

Everybody knows that Shapeero is the actual GM. Atkins does not make a move without Shapeero's approval. It's not like Shapeero wakes up in the morning, reads the paper and says, "Oh, Ross did that?"

So firing Atkins would be like Shapeero saying that he was putting all the blame on Atkins and that he, himself, had nothing to do with the moves, which is nothing further from the truth. If there's firing, it's gotta be both of them.
I am listening to the Ross Aitkens end of season press conference on my other phone browser. lol I clicked on notifications that couldn’t find this. It is not findable on my phone easily. Clicked all kinds of stuff. Got lost. Hey, Moreno from Arizona got hit in the head?

Ross confirmed that it was John Schneider’s ultimate decision to pull Berrios, and all they do is supply the data. He also confirmed that “John“ will in fact be back next year.

Basically, a lot of typical, blah blah blah aside from those key points.

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Funny how we had exactly what we need. That Varsho trade, in hindsight, is probably the worst in Jays history. I mean aside from Roger Clemens demanding a trade and getting a bag of balls and jar of pine tar for him lol.
They got Boomer Wells, who had a couple of good seasons. Then Baldyman dealt Wells to the CWS without demanding a medical for the pitcher we got in return, who turned out to be physically unable to pitch again!
Let’s give Arizona everything why don’t we. If Ross Atkins is still here after the disaster that was the 2023 season, the best thing he can do to redeem himself is sign Gurriel and Hernandez. Use Guerrero as a mantal piece and bring them here while he still has that star power to attract these guys for a reunion. Let Chapman, Kiermaier, Merrifield, Belt, Ryu.etc all walk. sign Guriel and Hernández, Biggio, Green, Hicks and there we go. Let Addison Barger, Spencer Horowitz, and that moustache Snyder guy, and Ricki Tidamin (spelling) do their thing. The youth movement.

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Schneider is still a year off. There will be holes in his swing that need work.

I'd keep Chapman and Varsho for their defence and hope tf that their offence picked up in 2024. Kiermaier and Merrifield were decent, but overpriced. Belt had little impact.

I don't think Teo and Panayman are the be-all. I'd like to see who else is on the market.
 

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Trump would do a better job than Schneider----LMAO
Trump know a lot about everything and he would inspire the players to greatness. He could turn Manoah around in a couple of days with some hands-on counseling and pitching advice, I'm pretty sure.
 
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"John will be back" you know who won't be?......me and thousands of other ticket buyers.........and if fans continue to buy tickets - then it is their fault for supporting this travesty. Full disclosure, I only bought tickets for 10 games, so my personal boycott will not bring them to their knees.

And I understand the new renovations will mean ticket increases.......ya the jays really deserve more fans paying more money
 
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Taking Berrios out was a strange decision but I very vaguely remember a couple of other pitching decisions which were just as strange. It had to do with starting an inferior pitcher so they could save the better pitcher for the next game. Of course, there was no next game because the inferior pitcher lost the game that would have move the team to the next round.

"Don't count your chickens before they're hatched."
 

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No way, the Jays will re-sign Chapman. Chapman's hitting is awful!! Belt and Kiermaier, won't be back with the Jays, either!!
I’m with you on this. Kevin Kiermaier started getting on my nerves. I liked him, but I definitely did not like the way he was shopping around his free agency going into next season during a playoff hunt. Like dude STFU the season is still happening here buddy. Focus on the Blue Jays.

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