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shack

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"White knuckle" Romano always with the dramatics,
What is he now, 27 of 30? 90% save rate? I can white knuckle that.


they should go all in for Shohei at the deadline. He will provide the much needed left handed thump in the 3rd spot and drive in some needed runs, this offense is awful. He's also a top end starter in the rotation, immediately #2 behind Gausman if not ahead of him. Can also be a valuable arm in the pen in a playoff series.

So essentially your getting 3 players in the trade.
Which trade is this? Which players? This is a 2 month rental.

So he'll be a starter and a reliever?
 
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No elite closer hits the first batter he faces with first pitch!
Only fair, Brian Woo hit two Jays batters, Vic Romano did what he had to do. Danny Jansen has a left forearm contusion, could miss a few games. Last month El Gran Capitan got hit on the wrist, enough is enough.

Blast from the past.

 

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Only fair, Brian Woo hit two Jays batters, Vic Romano did what he had to do. Danny Jansen has a left forearm contusion, could miss a few games. Last month El Gran Capitan got hit on the wrist, enough is enough.

Blast from the past.

You really think he hit the batter as payback in a one run lead 9th inning save situtaion?
 
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No elite closer hits the first batter he faces with first pitch!
Elite or not elite. Who cares about adjectives?

27 out of 30 is what counts.

Can he keep it up? I hope so, but I don't know. He might blow every save the rest of the season. I'm just saying, so far...so good.
 
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Which trade is this? Which players? This is a 2 month rental.
Anybody in the farm system they want, even Manoah if they want him. Obviously this going to be a rental, no way the Jays sign him long term nor would he sign with us. His next contract is going start at half billion at a minimum with a capital B.

So he'll be a starter and a reliever?
He's more valuable as a starter, he can used as a arm in the pen on short rest in a playoff series. Did you see how he led Japan over USA in WBC ?
 

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Anybody in the farm system they want, even Manoah if they want him. Obviously this going to be a rental, no way the Jays sign him long term nor would he sign with us. His next contract is going start at half billion at a minimum with a capital B.

He's more valuable as a starter, he can used as a arm in the pen on short rest in a playoff series. Did you see how he led Japan over USA in WBC ?
OK.

I wonder if the Jays have enough in the entire farm to pry him away.

As well, I think that LA will want something that will help them now. The team is already bad and without SO and nobody in return to help them now, I think the fans would revolt. The Jays are trying to win now. Who would they give up as reasonable compensation from the current squad?
 

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Schneider's in-game management of the pitching staff is puzzling to just about everyone who follows baseball closely. It has cost them games this year and is a major reason why they got eliminated in the playoffs as you mentioned. I also wonder how much responsibility the head coach assumes for poor base running decisions. Merrifield
What scares me is Schneider being really well insulated with the administration. He is so not the guy.


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There’s a bit of talk still circulating about a Marcus Stroman deal. I thought it was just some bozos on YouTube but even Jeff Blair is talking about it. Apparently a lot of people in the city want to see Marcus Stroman come back. I think a lot of it will depend on Manoqh…. Right now I am not feeling him. This guy is a liability.

I would love to see a deal for Teoscar to come back. I would love to see him in a Jays uniform right about now.

Philip
Just wait to see if you'd feel the same way if Jays re acquired him and he started flubbing plays in the OF again!
 
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i’m curious to see where this is going. Lol.

Philip
You know me too well, LOL. OK.

Romano is 27 of 30, this year. 90%. For his career he is 86 of 96 over parts of 3 seasons, which is 89.6%

Rivera is consensus all-time greatest closer.

Career save percentage is 89.1%

Obviously Rivera did it over 19 seasons so there's no comparison in that sense. But this is no lucky hot streak or small sample size for Romano. It's a solid result for the entirety of his career to this point. His numbers have been like this since Day 1. There's been no major ups or downs. He's been consistent. What more can he do? What more can the fan base expect of him to not get all the negativity? I find it rather perplexing.

Like I said, he may blow every save opportunity for the rest of his career for all I know. I'm not making any long term declarations or even short term predictions, but for all the chance he's had to demonstrate his ability, he's done admirably. When he started as a closer, if anybody told you that these would be his stats to this point, every fan would have been elated. Like I said, adjectives like elite mean nothing. His results have been excellent, is all I'm saying.

BTW, I know you loved Henke, as we all did. His career save %age was 85%
 
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In order to obtain Shohei Ohtani, the Jays would have to give up probably 4 of their top prospects ( Tiedeman, Martinez, Barger and Zulueta, let’s say) plus maybe Kirk and Espinal and maybe Varsho. That's what it will take to get the greatest ever player in baseball history, as some are calling him.
 
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Mentioning Romano and Rivera in the same breath is blasphemy


Rivera's post season stats when facing the best teams with the most amount of pressure are other worldly.

Having said that I do like Romano. Especially at 4.5 million per season. Check out what other top closers are getting


I wonder if the Jays would entertain bringing in David Robertson as a set up man. He's a UFA after the end of this year and the Mets aren't going anywhere.
 

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This season deadline is a sellers market so I say trade our FAs for some talent to replenish our depleted farm instead of depleting it some more and consider the future instead of the remote chance of getting to the show as we stand a solid chance of not even getting a WC

FACE REALITY
 

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Mentioning Romano and Rivera in the same breath is blasphemy
I'll wear that title of blasphemer with pride.

FYI, I'm not comparing the two to each other. I'm using Revera's numbers as a baseline with which to assess Romano's performance. In Riviera's 19 years, he only topped Romano's 90% save rate 6 times.
 
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Mentioning Romano and Rivera in the same breath is blasphemy


Rivera's post season stats when facing the best teams with the most amount of pressure are other worldly.

Having said that I do like Romano. Especially at 4.5 million per season. Check out what other top closers are getting


I wonder if the Jays would entertain bringing in David Robertson as a set up man. He's a UFA after the end of this year and the Mets aren't going anywhere.
The only blemish was that WS losing blown save to Arizona in 2001......................... One of my happiest ever baseball moments. 😹
 
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