Israel at war
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So much for Oct 7 being the excuse for the genocide of Palestinians. This is from 2021….sound familiar?
frank wants 500,000 to die.
How about you? Do you think that Hamas, whom you hate, should return all the hostages and surrender unilaterally so that Israel immediately stops the assault? All of their stated goals will have been reached.
It is impossible to debate against the fact that a unilateral surrender by Hamas occurs much, much faster than having to bilaterally negotiate a ceasefire before that ceasefire can be put into effect.
Israel will not enter into ceasefire at this point, so the question is, should Hamas surrender to stop the hostilities or should they keep fighting knowing that many, many more Palestinians will die.
Usual conspiracy theorist; deny any source you don't like. But it's not surprising that you are so quick to deny the voices of Palestinians as collected by a Palestinian polling agency.
1. And how would you target Hamas leadership? Would you send troops into Gaza to do this? Bomb their homes? Sounds pretty much like what Israel is doing. And what was your response to Israel hitting Hamas leaders in lebanon?
2. Hamas has said they would accept a Two State peace as a TEMPORARY measure. They and 75% of Palestinians are clear that their end goal is to have a Palestinian state "from the river to the sea".
And it would be stupid for Israel to give up land without any guarantees. That's why I have always said international pressure to negotiate is the only way forward.
p.s. Olmert offered all that in 2008; a Palestinian state on all of West Bank and Gaza with 6% land swaps including a land corridor to Gaza, international oversite over the Old City and holy sites, some refugees to Israel with the rest given money to resettle in a Palestinian state, the countries they live in, or third parties like Canada (and only 10% of refuges want to live in Israel). He even offered to remove Jews from Arab neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem. Abbas walked away without even a counter-proposal and Hamas rejected the concept out of hand.
Absolutely. I00%
More and more Gazans are tired of the killing, suffering and oppression that Hamas has brought upon. They will lose Gazan support. The best way for Hamas to be eliminated is by an insurrection by the Palestinians of Gaza. We've already seen clips of Gazans speaking out against Hamas.
The French Revolution.
The Russian Revolution.
The Gazan Revolution. Why not?
Hamas was hoping that Hezbollah would fully attack and Iran would do more than greenlight the Houthis.
And the obligatory "Ukraine is Nazi murderers. Putin is the good guy!" post.
Oh look! Dan Cohen works with Max Blumenthal! Here's the wiki page!!
Dan Cohen (journalist) - Wikipedia
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Dan Cohen is an American journalist and filmmaker based in Washington, D.C. He is the host of Behind the Headlines. Formerly of RT America, Cohen has contributed to Al Jazeera English, Alternet, Electronic Intifada, The Grayzone, Middle East Eye, Mondoweiss, The Nation, and Vice News. Cohen is from Phoenix, Arizona[1] and has one child.[2]
Cohen is Jewish[3] and his family were Lithuanian Jews from Lazdijai, Lithuania. His family members in Lithuania were exterminated by the Nazis during the Holocaust, and the occupation of Lithuania following Operation Barbarossa.[4]
Works
- Killing Gaza (2018), with Max Blumenthal[5][6]
Congratulations, Klatty! You found another chunk of lying human turd!
That seems to be your response for every post that you disagree with. Do ever have your own facts and ideas in the form of sentences to support your position?
Your replies are always insults or videos. You never are able to compose a coherent and compelling paragraph.
And as I explained in another post, which for your benefit I won't repeat or even be more specific, your support of Hamas is irrational.
I'm having to explain so much for you today.
Support for Hamas is much lower in Gaza. The Palestinians there have taken the bulk of Israel's retaliation. They realize and don't like that Hamas is making them go through this hell. They know that Hamas initiated this because of Oct. 7 and they know that they are being used as pawns/human shields and they know that Hamas is stealing humanitarian aid meant for them. This weakening support in Gaza will continue until either Israel obliterates Hamas or Hamas surrenders or the Gazans get totally fed up and rise up against Hamas on their own.
I hope you learned something today. Knowledge is power.
So you say Israel should continue bombing everywhere for 10 more years?
Or will they have "defeated Hamas" before that?
So bomb them for 2 or 3 generations then?
Just continuous bombing?
So how does bombing solve this?
Which you said would take two to three generations?
And presumably it is "everyone who has ever said Hamas has a point" who must be killed?
Or just anyone who said that Israel should maybe kill less people who must be killed?
Or is it just a current list of Hamas leadership?
Who decides who is on that list?
"Let Me FINISH My Sentence!" Julia Hartley-Brewer CLASHES With Palestine MP Over Hamas Assassination
This kind of racism and entitlement is taught from birth and needs to be exposed
mondoweiss.net
Advocating one person/one vote for Israel is antisemitic — ‘Forward’ editor
Jodi Rudoren, the editor of the Forward, offers a frank rationale for Zionism, stating that it is opposed to equal rights in the American tradition.
mondoweiss.net
are you aware that Mondo Weiss an anti-semitic website is funded by white supremacist Ron Unz?This kind of racism and entitlement is taught from birth and needs to be exposed
Advocating one person/one vote for Israel is antisemitic — ‘Forward’ editor
Jodi Rudoren, the editor of the Forward, offers a frank rationale for Zionism, stating that it is opposed to equal rights in the American tradition.
So if anyone fires a rocket ever at Israel again, Israel should continue this level of bombing?
How do you know when this is reached?
And are there any proportional limits on this retaliation?
So any theft in Gaza should be met with bombing?
Israel should bomb all infrastructure until the Gazans can build infrastructure?
How does bombing produce elections?
You seem to be answering "Israel will know Hamas is eradicated when it knows".
Which... fine, but you do understand why some people don't find this a useful answer, right?
