Israel at war

Leimonis

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The 2 state solution can be implemented with security guarantees that involves demilitarization of Palestine. If the Palestinians had good advocates they would take that deal.
I don’t see Hamas agreeing to demilitarization. That would be the end of them.
 

Frankfooter

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You are being unrealistic.
There are only 3 real options, it seems.
1) The genocide continues until a final solution or WWIII
2) International sanctions drive Israel to abide by the ICJ ruling on the two state solutions.
3) International sanctions drive Israel to giving Palestinians the vote, this is now the least likely option, IMO.

Biden has supposedly said Israel can attack Iran but can only hit military targets, Iran has said they've responded to Israel's two attacks and consider themselves even. But if Israel responds at all they say they will strike back. A war means Harris loses, but does Biden even care about that at this point? Biden reportedly encouraged Israel to invade Lebanon, while publicly saying they back a ceasefire.

So far Israel has been able to almost take on 2 million refugees with no army living in a concentration camp and is now finding they have as yet been unable to take on even Hezbollah across the border. Iran would be a be a shitshow for everyone.

We are 4 days away from the 1 year anniversary. Global protests will be massive.

 
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Frankfooter

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The encroachment will end if someone other than Netanyahu with an intent of ending the conflict takes office. Assimilation is basically a one state solution. That may happen in Gaza too.
Not Netanyahu, Biden.
Israel won't stop Netanyahu, this is what the extremists there have been wanting for a long, long time

Biden could stop it in a day if he wanted.
But even Harris and Walz back the 'expansion' of Israel.
 
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Frankfooter

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I don’t see Hamas agreeing to demilitarization. That would be the end of them.
Without a military you create Bantusans.
Oh wait, that's what you want.

You want walled in Bantustans you can pretend is Palestine but then to still be able to control it like Israel controlled the Gaza concentration camp.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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There are only 3 real options, it seems.
1) The genocide continues until a final solution or WWIII
2) International sanctions drive Israel to abide by the ICJ ruling on the two state solutions.
3) International sanctions drive Israel to giving Palestinians the vote, this is now the least likely option, IMO.

Biden has supposedly said Israel can attack Iran but can only hit military targets, Iran has said they've responded to Israel's two attacks and consider themselves even. But if Israel responds at all they say they will strike back. A war means Harris loses, but does Biden even care about that at this point? Biden reportedly encouraged Israel to invade Lebanon, while publicly saying they back a ceasefire.

So far Israel has been able to almost take on 2 million refugees with no army living in a concentration camp and is now finding they have as yet been unable to take on even Hezbollah across the border. Iran would be a be a shitshow for everyone.

We are 4 days away from the 1 year anniversary. Global protests will be massive.

Iran can only launch ballistic missiles which are easily defended. Israel in their first raid in Iran, attacked the air defences for a nuclear plant. Likely were testing Iran's air defences for intel. They will likely attack missile sites and nuclear plants. Time will tell.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Not Netanyahu, Biden.
Israel won't stop Netanyahu, this is what the extremists there have been wanting for a long, long time

Biden could stop it in a day if he wanted.
But even Harris and Walz back the 'expansion' of Israel.
Only Israelis can stop Israel. Both parties in the US will support Israel.
 
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Frankfooter

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Iran can only launch ballistic missiles which are easily defended. Israel in their first raid in Iran, attacked the air defences for a nuclear plant. Likely were testing Iran's air defences for intel. They will likely attack missile sites and nuclear plants. Time will tell.
Israel couldn't stop this latest round of missiles, apparently they now include hypersonics.
Israel isn't a big country but Iran is.
If the US stays out if it they are in trouble, if the US joins its WWIII and rump wins the election.
Though if Israel starts losing they would start a nuclear war.

Either way its a massive shitshow with way too many unnecessary deaths all because Netanyahu is in political trouble and can't stop.


 

Frankfooter

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Lets call this what it is.
This is the US and Israel's war on the Arab world.

The US has sent $40 billion to Israel in 2024 and protected them at the UN and ICC, while encouraging the genocide and attacks on Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Palestine and Iran.
For the first time in decades we have Iran allying with Syria, Russia, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and all the Muslim countries.

This is fucked and will not end well.

Russia just told 1.5 million Russian zionists to leave Israel, that's about 1/4 of the Jewish population in Israel/Palestine.

 
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