Israel at war

dirtyharry555

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I don't think the West is in decline. I also think the West is the best hope for humanity.
Yes. We're returning to a state with parallels to Feudalism. The haves and have-nots with nothing in between.

On top of that, Western governments are broke. The average citizen is living on credit.

As a Boomer none of this is relevant to you. You will live out the rest of your days in glory.

All of this political bantering is an academic exercise for you. It keeps the mind sharp.

Do you think China, Russia or the Third World are on the rise?
Comparatively yes they're rising. But it doesn't matter if they are or not. The Third World is being imported into the First World.

In 30 years you're going to have a sea of poor people in countries like Canada that you never thought possible.

If you think homelessness is bad now, get ready for a wakeup call.
 
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richaceg

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Reality and history shows the Palestinians are fighting for their existence and the Israelis are trying to eliminate them.

I support the Palestinians.
do you support Hamas? I wonder how some Palestinians live in Israel.....
 

Leimonis

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Well, so what are you guys waiting for? We are already here. 😂
Wait, what’s happening I missed everything! is flat earth society and KKK joining their ranks?
 
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richaceg

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Canadian killed. Americans killed in this attack...I'm not gonna say thoughts and prayers for Israel thoughts and prayers will not bring back lives lost, thoughts and prayers won't stop Hamas...we all know how Israel is going to deal with this....
 

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Copied and pasted from Wikipedia.

The table shows the Jewish population in various Arab countries since 1948, then in 1972, and then recent estimates.

There doesn't seem to be much tolerance for Jews at all in most of these countries, especially as compared to the Israeli's tolerance for peaceful Muslims who live in the State of Israel.

Table of Jewish population since 1948
In 1948, there were between 758,000 and 881,000 Jews (see table below) living in communities throughout the Arab world. Today, there are fewer than 8,600. In some Arab states, such as Libya, which was about 3% Jewish, the Jewish community no longer exists; in other Arab countries, only a few dozen to a few hundred Jews remain.

Jewish Population by country: 1948, 1972 and recent times
Country or territory1948 Jewish
population
1972 Jewish
population
Recent estimates
Morocco250,000[76]–265,000[77]31,000[267]2,100 (2019)[268][better source needed]
Algeria140,000[76][77]1,000[267]<50 (2014)[269][better source needed]
Tunisia50,000[76]–105,000[77]8,000[267]1,000 (2019)[268]
Libya35,000[76]–38,000[77]50[267]0 (2014)[269]
North Africa Total~500,000~40,000~3,000
Iraq135,000[77]–140,000[76]500[267]5–7 (2014)[269]
Egypt75,000[77]–80,000[76]500[267]100 (2019)[269]
Yemen and Aden53,000[76]–63,000[77]500[267]50 (2016)[270]
Syria15,000[76]–30,000[77]4,000[267]100 (2019)[269]
Lebanon5,000[77]–20,000[271][better source needed]2,000[267]100 (2012)[271]
Bahrain550–600[272][better source needed]36 (2007)[273]
Sudan350[261]≈0
Middle East Total~300,000~7,500~400
Afghanistan5,000500[267]0 (2021)[254]
BangladeshUnknown75–100 (2012)[274]
Iran65,232 (1956)[275]62,258 (1976)[275][276] - 80,000[267]8,300 (2019)[15][better source needed]
Pakistan2,000–2,500[277]250[267]>900 (2017)[278]
Turkey80,000[279]30,000[267]14,800 (2019)[16][better source needed]
Non-Arab Muslim Countries Total~150,000~100,000~24,000
Absorption


Copied and pasted from Wikipedia re: Arab populations in Israel:

Population
In 2006, the official number of Arab residents in Israel was 1,413,500 people, about 20% of Israel's population. This figure includes 209,000 Arabs (14% of the Israeli Arab population) in East Jerusalem, also counted in the Palestinian statistics, although 98% of East Jerusalem Palestinians have either Israeli residency or Israeli citizenship.[147] In 2012, the official number of Arab residents in Israel increased to 1,617,000 people, about 21% of Israel's population.[148] The Arab population in 2023 was estimated at 2,065,000 people, representing 21% of the country's population.[1]

According to the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics census in 2010, "the Arab population lives in 134 towns and villages. About 44 percent of them live in towns (compared to 81 percent of the Jewish population); 48 percent live in villages with local councils (compared to 9 percent of the Jewish population). Four percent of the Arab citizens live in small villages with regional councils, while the rest live in unrecognized villages (the proportion is much higher, 31 percent in the Negev)".[149] The Arab population in Israel is located in five main areas: Galilee (54.6% of total Israeli Arabs), Triangle (23.5% of total Israeli Arabs), Golan Heights, East Jerusalem, and Northern Negev (13.5% of total Israeli Arabs).[149] Around 8.4% (approximately 102,000 inhabitants) of Israeli Arabs live in officially mixed Jewish-Arab cities (excluding Arab residents in East Jerusalem), including Haifa, Lod, Ramle, Jaffa-Tel Aviv, Acre, Nof HaGalil, and Ma'alot Tarshiha.[150]

Jaffa, which currently has 16,000 Arab residents, mixed of Muslims and Christians.[151]Old City of Acre, an area where Arabs make up 95% of the residents.[146]
In Israel's Northern District[152] Arab citizens of Israel form a majority of the population (52%) and about 50% of the Arab population lives in 114 different localities throughout Israel.[153] In total there are 122 primarily if not entirely Arab localities in Israel, 89 of them having populations over two thousand.[154] The seven townships as well as the Abu Basma Regional Council that have been constructed by the government for the Bedouin population of the Negev,[155][better source needed] are the only Arab localities to have been established since 1948, with the aim of relocating the Arab Bedouin citizens (see preceding section on Bedouin).[citation needed]

46% of the country's Arabs (622,400 people) live in predominantly Arab communities in the north.[152] In 2021 Nazareth was the largest Arab city, with a population of 77,925,[156] roughly 40,000 of whom are Muslim. Shefa-'Amr has a population of approximately 43,023 and the city is mixed with sizable populations of Muslims, Christians, and Druze.

Jerusalem, a mixed city, has the largest overall Arab population. Jerusalem housed 332,400 Arabs in 2016 (37.7% of the city's residents)[157] and together with the local council of Abu Ghosh, some 19% of the country's entire Arab population.

14% of Arab citizens live in the Haifa District predominantly in the Wadi Ara region. Here is the largest Muslim city, Umm al-Fahm, with a population of 57,677. Baqa-Jatt is the second largest Arab population center in the district. The city of Haifa has an Arab population of 10%, much of it in the Wadi Nisnas, Abbas and Halissa neighborhoods.[158] Wadi Nisnas and Abbas neighborhoods, are largely Christian,[159][160] Halisa and Kababir are largely Muslim.[160]

10% of the country's Arab population resides in the Central District of Israel, primarily the cities of Tayibe, Tira, and Qalansawe as well as the mixed cities of Lod and Ramla which have mainly Jewish populations.[71]

Of the remaining 11%, 10% live in Bedouin communities in the northwestern Negev. The Bedouin city of Rahat is the only Arab city in the Southern District and it is the third largest Arab city in Israel.

The remaining 1% of the country's Arab population lives in cities that are almost entirely Jewish, such as Nazareth Illit with an Arab population of 22%[161] and Tel Aviv-Yafo, 4%.[71][153]




So I ask you, who is the more tolerant country?


 
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Klatuu

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Copied and pasted from Wikipedia.

The table shows the Jewish population in various Arab countries since 1948, then in 1972, and then recent estimates.

There doesn't seem to be much tolerance for Jews at all in most of these countries, especially as compared to the Israeli's tolerance for peaceful Muslims who live in the State of Israel.

Table of Jewish population since 1948
In 1948, there were between 758,000 and 881,000 Jews (see table below) living in communities throughout the Arab world. Today, there are fewer than 8,600. In some Arab states, such as Libya, which was about 3% Jewish, the Jewish community no longer exists; in other Arab countries, only a few dozen to a few hundred Jews remain.

Jewish Population by country: 1948, 1972 and recent times
Country or territory1948 Jewish
population
1972 Jewish
population
Recent estimates
Morocco250,000[76]–265,000[77]31,000[267]2,100 (2019)[268][better source needed]
Algeria140,000[76][77]1,000[267]<50 (2014)[269][better source needed]
Tunisia50,000[76]–105,000[77]8,000[267]1,000 (2019)[268]
Libya35,000[76]–38,000[77]50[267]0 (2014)[269]
North Africa Total~500,000~40,000~3,000
Iraq135,000[77]–140,000[76]500[267]5–7 (2014)[269]
Egypt75,000[77]–80,000[76]500[267]100 (2019)[269]
Yemen and Aden53,000[76]–63,000[77]500[267]50 (2016)[270]
Syria15,000[76]–30,000[77]4,000[267]100 (2019)[269]
Lebanon5,000[77]–20,000[271][better source needed]2,000[267]100 (2012)[271]
Bahrain550–600[272][better source needed]36 (2007)[273]
Sudan350[261]≈0
Middle East Total~300,000~7,500~400
Afghanistan5,000500[267]0 (2021)[254]
BangladeshUnknown75–100 (2012)[274]
Iran65,232 (1956)[275]62,258 (1976)[275][276] - 80,000[267]8,300 (2019)[15][better source needed]
Pakistan2,000–2,500[277]250[267]>900 (2017)[278]
Turkey80,000[279]30,000[267]14,800 (2019)[16][better source needed]
Non-Arab Muslim Countries Total~150,000~100,000~24,000
Absorption


Copied and pasted from Wikipedia re: Arab populations in Israel:

Population
In 2006, the official number of Arab residents in Israel was 1,413,500 people, about 20% of Israel's population. This figure includes 209,000 Arabs (14% of the Israeli Arab population) in East Jerusalem, also counted in the Palestinian statistics, although 98% of East Jerusalem Palestinians have either Israeli residency or Israeli citizenship.[147] In 2012, the official number of Arab residents in Israel increased to 1,617,000 people, about 21% of Israel's population.[148] The Arab population in 2023 was estimated at 2,065,000 people, representing 21% of the country's population.[1]

According to the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics census in 2010, "the Arab population lives in 134 towns and villages. About 44 percent of them live in towns (compared to 81 percent of the Jewish population); 48 percent live in villages with local councils (compared to 9 percent of the Jewish population). Four percent of the Arab citizens live in small villages with regional councils, while the rest live in unrecognized villages (the proportion is much higher, 31 percent in the Negev)".[149] The Arab population in Israel is located in five main areas: Galilee (54.6% of total Israeli Arabs), Triangle (23.5% of total Israeli Arabs), Golan Heights, East Jerusalem, and Northern Negev (13.5% of total Israeli Arabs).[149] Around 8.4% (approximately 102,000 inhabitants) of Israeli Arabs live in officially mixed Jewish-Arab cities (excluding Arab residents in East Jerusalem), including Haifa, Lod, Ramle, Jaffa-Tel Aviv, Acre, Nof HaGalil, and Ma'alot Tarshiha.[150]

Jaffa, which currently has 16,000 Arab residents, mixed of Muslims and Christians.[151]Old City of Acre, an area where Arabs make up 95% of the residents.[146]
In Israel's Northern District[152] Arab citizens of Israel form a majority of the population (52%) and about 50% of the Arab population lives in 114 different localities throughout Israel.[153] In total there are 122 primarily if not entirely Arab localities in Israel, 89 of them having populations over two thousand.[154] The seven townships as well as the Abu Basma Regional Council that have been constructed by the government for the Bedouin population of the Negev,[155][better source needed] are the only Arab localities to have been established since 1948, with the aim of relocating the Arab Bedouin citizens (see preceding section on Bedouin).[citation needed]

46% of the country's Arabs (622,400 people) live in predominantly Arab communities in the north.[152] In 2021 Nazareth was the largest Arab city, with a population of 77,925,[156] roughly 40,000 of whom are Muslim. Shefa-'Amr has a population of approximately 43,023 and the city is mixed with sizable populations of Muslims, Christians, and Druze.

Jerusalem, a mixed city, has the largest overall Arab population. Jerusalem housed 332,400 Arabs in 2016 (37.7% of the city's residents)[157] and together with the local council of Abu Ghosh, some 19% of the country's entire Arab population.

14% of Arab citizens live in the Haifa District predominantly in the Wadi Ara region. Here is the largest Muslim city, Umm al-Fahm, with a population of 57,677. Baqa-Jatt is the second largest Arab population center in the district. The city of Haifa has an Arab population of 10%, much of it in the Wadi Nisnas, Abbas and Halissa neighborhoods.[158] Wadi Nisnas and Abbas neighborhoods, are largely Christian,[159][160] Halisa and Kababir are largely Muslim.[160]

10% of the country's Arab population resides in the Central District of Israel, primarily the cities of Tayibe, Tira, and Qalansawe as well as the mixed cities of Lod and Ramla which have mainly Jewish populations.[71]

Of the remaining 11%, 10% live in Bedouin communities in the northwestern Negev. The Bedouin city of Rahat is the only Arab city in the Southern District and it is the third largest Arab city in Israel.

The remaining 1% of the country's Arab population lives in cities that are almost entirely Jewish, such as Nazareth Illit with an Arab population of 22%[161] and Tel Aviv-Yafo, 4%.[71][153]




So I ask you, who is the more tolerant country?


But no links to check the authenticity or what you might be leaving out.
 
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