This is the only thread I've ever read on TERB that would improve if it became a Bush bashing thread.
TOV, DQ - I think Bush is a military hero and genius
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TOV, DQ - I think Bush is a military hero and genius
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Okay, since someone else started I'll join in to lighten the mood.onthebottom said:This is the only thread I've ever read on TERB that would improve if it became a Bush bashing thread.
TOV, DQ - I think Bush is a military hero and genius
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Get from here, Jew hater! The nazi boards will welcome you with open arms.cyrus said:Ok , would you mind for a moment read back my previous post just one more time and interpret what I have said, please do that then I will gladly follow up to your next point!
Here this is what I have said earlier
We don’t live alone in a Jungle; we live in circle and in various communities
As an individual we , will all die and our existence will fade from memory. However, as nations we will endure through history.
We will be judged as a nation of people and embraced for our communal goodness or cursed for our combined wickedness. .
. . . So how can I view a Jew only as an individual when Jews themselves pursue their commitment to their Jewish ness, political existence, and Jewish traditions collectively?
Then if you may please weight them up alongside the historical events of Ukrainian War of Liberation of 1648-1654
Which Dr. Robert S. Wistrich's elegantly summarized below
"All over Europe the Jews enjoyed the greatest tranquillity during the eighteenth century. In Poland alone they fared badly for having once lived too well. They had been prosperous there up to the middle of the seventeenth century. Rich, powerful, they had lived on an equal footing with the Christians, treated as though of the people amid whom they lived; but they could not help giving themselves up to their usual commerce, their vices, their passion for gold. Dominated by the Talmudists they succeeded in producing nothing beyond commentators of the Talmud. They were tax collectors, spirit-distillers, usurers, seigneurial stewards. They were the noblemen's allies in their abominable work of oppression, and when the Cossacks of Ukraina and Little Russia had risen, under Chmielnicki, against Polish tyranny, the Jews, as accomplices of the lords, were the first to be massacred. It is said that over 100,000 of them were killed in ten years, but just as many Catholics and especially Jesuits, were killed as well."
Thank you.DATYdude said:Very subtle!
Llad - a tallis (talit) is a special fringed prayer shawl, can be worn by any Jewish male (some women too in the more liberal brances) who has had a bar matzvah, is mandatory for prayer by married men.
I've seen them, now I know what they're called. See boys and girls, even on a racist thread you can learn something.DATYdude said:Very subtle!
Llad - a tallis (talit) is a special fringed prayer shawl, can be worn by any Jewish male (some women too in the more liberal brances) who has had a bar matzvah, is mandatory for prayer by married men.
Look what your wrote above! Obviously,you are just too Dim headed to debate this sensitive topic, thus move on!DATYdude said:The plain fact is that cyrus is not reformable, he has no powers of self-criticism or he might recognize that some of the criticisms of him are valid.
There is just no point.
"they could not help giving themselves up to their usual commerce, their vices, their passion for gold. Dominated by the Talmudists they succeeded in producing nothing beyond commentators of the Talmud. They were tax collectors, spirit-distillers, usurers, seigneurial stewards. They were the noblemen's allies in their abominable work of oppression"
-- are these the words of someone who is anything less than a fanatic?
You lying Jew hater, Wistrich didn't author your little passage, it was written by Lazarre - "Born in Nîmes, in Southern France, into an assimilated Jewish family, he had arrived in Paris in 1886, where he became involved in both the Symbolist and anarchist movements." Keep spreading your lying filth.cyrus said:Look you are just too stupid to debate this sensitive topic, thus move on!
For everyone else’s information
Professor Robert S. Wistrich is the person who wrote this article
in his famous book
Anti-Semitism: The Longest Hatred,
which is about the history and causes of anti-Semitism in Eroupe. A book that is obviusly too complicated for DATYdude feeble mind to read or understand.
But the minimum that one could do is to look it up for himself before making stupid comments about it.
This is the article that DATYdude thinks, I wrote:
"All over Europe the Jews enjoyed the greatest tranquillity during the eighteenth century. In Poland alone they fared badly for having once lived too well. They had been prosperous there up to the middle of the seventeenth century. Rich, powerful, they had lived on an equal footing with the Christians, treated as though of the people amid whom they lived; but they could not help giving themselves up to their usual commerce, their vices, their passion for gold. Dominated by the Talmudists they succeeded in producing nothing beyond commentators of the Talmud. They were tax collectors, spirit-distillers, usurers, seigneurial stewards. They were the noblemen's allies in their abominable work of oppression, and when the Cossacks of Ukraina and Little Russia had risen, under Chmielnicki, against Polish tyranny, the Jews, as accomplices of the lords, were the first to be massacred. It is said that over 100,000 of them were killed in ten years, but just as many Catholics and especially Jesuits, were killed as well."
Professor Robert S. Wistrich
http://www.acpr.org.il/people/rwistrich.html
Robert S. Wistrich holds the Neuberger chair for Modern European History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and is head of its Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Anti-Semitism. He is the author and editor of 23 books, several of which have won international awards. These include Socialism and the Jews (Oxford University Press, 1982), The Jews of Vienna in the Age of Franz Joseph (OUP, 1989) which won the Austrian State Prize for Danubian History and Antisemitism, the Longest Hatred (Pantheon, 1992) which received the H.H. Wingate Prize for non-fiction in the UK. It was also the basis for the PBS film documentary which Professor Wistrich scripted and co-edited. His most recent books are: Hitler and the Holocaust (Random House, 2001) and the edited volume Nietzsche. Godfather of Fascism? (Princeton, 2002). Between 1999 and 2001 Professor Wistrich was one of six scholars who were appointed to an international Catholic-Jewish historical commission to examine the wartime record of Pope Pius the XII. More recently, in June 2003, he initiated and acted as Chief Historical Advisor for a BBC film documentary on contemporary Muslim anti-Semitism, entitled “Blaming the Jews”.
I actually love Jewish women, although I only socialize with the Jewish men, over smoke & a drinksparty86 said:You lying Jew hater, ....
Here something new to learn!onthebottom said:I've seen them, now I know what they're called. See boys and girls, even on a racist thread you can learn something.
Thanks
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!basketcase said:He exposes your source as false and your response ?????????
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As usual, those focused on hate have no need for reason.
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from answers.comAnd below is Lazare's one-paragraph summary of Khmelnytsky:
All over Europe the Jews enjoyed the greatest tranquillity during the eighteenth century......
Do you need any more evidence of you anti-semitic views?Chmielnicki, Khmelnytskyy or Khmelnitsky, Bohdan (all: bəkhdän' khmĕlnēt'skē) , c.1595–1657, hetman (leader) of Ukraine. An educated member of the Ukrainian gentry, he early joined the Ukrainian Cossacks. Elected (1648) hetman of the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks, he led their rebellion against oppressive Polish rule. After defeating the Polish army, the Cossacks joined with the Polish peasantry, murdering over 100,000 Jews. ...
Then read this again!basketcase said:How does quoting a piece of work that another author quoted of another author sumarizing the work of a Cossak justification of pogroms prove anything ?
Thank you for quoting my own notes, maybe know that Sparta guy... hide his head under the pillow out of embarrassment . . .basketcase said:
Please go back and read . . . read . . .and re-read againbasketcase said:If your just going to repeat your anti-semitic crap, I'll just repeat my response.
How does quoting a piece of work that another author (wistrich) quoted of yet another author (Lazare) sumarizing a 17th century Cossak's justification of pogroms prove anything except you like the accusations it makes about Jews? Perhaps you hope if you repeat it often enough, someone might actually believe it.
Antisemitismbasketcase said:I understand what your point is. A couple of "historians" have repeated the anti-semitic justification of a 17th century Cossack and therefore you take it as fact that Jews have caused the world to hate them and deserve everything that has happened to them. You believe it's not the world's fault, it's those damn Jews.
You refuse to view people as individuals so you are a racist. Don't be ashamed to admit it.