Is there a Holocaust Industry?

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Asterix said:
... My confusion is why you feel the Jews should be held to a higher standard when "influential", then others, still unnamed.
Cyrus can't understand how people's lives are often influenced by their own choices and to a lesser extent, the choices of everyone around them so anything he doesn't like must be the fault of the Jews.
 

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Pick up the ball and go home. I asked you to describe who you were comparing one group to, and why they violated your "rules" more than another. You've provided nothing to answer my question, or substantiate your statement. Your choice.

Read the first post in this thread or my other relevant posts, there are ample examples on this subject, you can go as far back as you want to undrestand how Jewish influence has shaping history IMO and not always good. . .i.e,

Jewish influence in the Bolshevik Revolution as George Pitt-Rivers said that this revolution was in fact a Jewish revolution, pinpointing to the nature of a Jewish Problem, caused by what he described as "two thousand years of madness”

Bernard Lazare (1865-1903) ,
Antisemitism: its history and causes, University of Nebraska
who wrote
"The general causes of anti-Semitism have always resided in Israel itself....” “The Jew was "unsociable... because he was exclusive, and his exclusiveness was both political and religious..."

summary of Khmelnytsky:
Dr. Robert S. Wistrich's & Bernard Lazare, Neuberger Professor of Modern Jewish History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and himself the author of Antisemitism: The Longest Hatred

"All over Europe the Jews enjoyed the greatest tranquillity during the eighteenth century. In Poland alone they fared badly for having once lived too well. They had been prosperous there up to the middle of the seventeenth century. Rich, powerful, they had lived on an equal footing with the Christians, treated as though of the people amid whom they lived; but they could not help giving themselves up to their usual commerce, their vices, their passion for gold. Dominated by the Talmudists they succeeded in producing nothing beyond commentators of the Talmud. They were tax collectors, spirit-distillers, usurers, seigneurial stewards. They were the noblemen's allies in their abominable work of oppression, and when the Cossacks of Ukraina and Little Russia had risen, under Chmielnicki, against Polish tyranny, the Jews, as accomplices of the lords, were the first to be massacred. It is said that over 100,000 of them were killed in ten years, but just as many Catholics and especially Jesuits, were killed as well."


The Rosenbergs case, that it was their duty to pass the atomic information to the Soviets (read the trial Doc. )

The Talmudic Rabbis responsibility & influence in referance to their malicious debate with Christianity against Jesus concerning Crucifixion resulting the isolation of the Jews in East Europe and forcing of Jews into ghetto system

The Zionist-Communist influence that took place to establishment Zionist Israel in 1948,
And the terrorist tactics that was used against the British and the Palestinians that led to the creation of one of the biggest refugee problems in history.

The Zionist -Nazi connections and influences . . .

THE JEWISH ANTI-NAZI BOYCOTT AND THE ZIONIST-NAZI TRADE AGREEMENT
David Yisraeli, 'The Third Reich and the Transfer Agreement', Journal of Contemporary History

Moshe Gottlieb, The Anti-Nazi Boycott Movement in the American Jewish Community' 1933-1941, PhD thesis, Brandeis University 1967

'Blackshirts Peeved at Reich-Zion Trade', Jewish Daily Bulletin (6 February 1935)


Natan Sharansky influence on George W. Bush & U.S. Foreign Policy Diaspora
With his pro-Israel policies, that advocates dual loyalty to both Israel and the United States. “I see the world as one, the Jewish world,” so said Sharansky

Read the works ofJewish writers and philosophers, who have been examining their own History & culture;
Israel Shahak,
Israel Shamir,
Alfred Lilienthal,
John Sack & Norman Finkelstein on
Jewish/Zionist influence in government and the mass media
on why it is important to understand who is Jewish in these fields, also to comprehend the nature of traditional Jewish collective identity, their overwhelming Jewish allegiance to the ideology of Zionism and the state of Israel, and parallel Jewish power in other fields . . . . . . . many many more to talk about . . . .
 
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If jews run the entertainment industry (and by extension use it to push their agenda/religion). Why do the vast majority of shows/movies have a christian/catholic bent (christmas, easter, etc.)? How should Catholics feel about the commercialization of Christ's birth to the point where he is replaced with a fat old man? How should other faiths feel when this is the predominant view presented in north america often in spite of their traditions?
 

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Is there a Palestinian industry that's sold to Europe (and their blatant Anti-Semitism) to procure funds for Fattah and Hamas to squander? The same argument could be made for the IRA selling itself in Boston.

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red said:
this is a distasteful thread
Dr. Oscar Levy a Jewish philosophers once said "The question of the Jews and their influence in the world, past and present, cuts to the core of all things and should be discussed by every thinker.”

So Please let me repeat this one more time,
"The issue here is about the fact that today radical Jews have created such a myth in the name of Holocaust that they expect the rest of the world consider it to be above everything else, even God & faith" so they could push their agenda with impunity against the oppressed Palestinian nation and that is unfair.

"If the west committed this big crime, then why should the Palestinians pay the price?” This is a reasonable question that every decent person should think about
 

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Is there a Palestinian industry that's sold to Europe (and their blatant Anti-Semitism) to procure funds for Fattah and Hamas to squander? The same argument could be made for the IRA selling itself in Boston.

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Hmmm . . . what are you smoking? "Palestinian industry" :confused:

If you don't have something smart to say, then don't bother!
 

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cyrus said:
Hmmm . . . what are you smoking? "Palestinian industry" :confused:

If you don't have something smart to say, then don't bother!
Nothing, I think the Palestinians have shaken down Europe - how much does Europe send to the Palestinians in a year?

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A few facts:

Europe gave the Palestinian Authority 600m in 2005, the US gave 400m, the PA economy:

GDP: $3.3bn
Population: 3.6 million
GDP per person: $934
Foreign aid per person: $469
Change in GDP per person since 1999: -38%
Poverty rate: 48%
Unemployment rate: 27%
Source: World Bank

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onthebottom said:
Nothing, I think the Palestinians have shaken down Europe - how much does Europe send to the Palestinians in a year?

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Much less than "Nothing" compare to what they have given to Israel, read my other thread on “Usrael Alliance” and find out as an American how much of the Tax dollars, so far has gone from West to Israel ... over $500 billion, not counting the NET ECONOMIC LOSS of this money not spend in WEST.
 

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cyrus said:
Much less than "Nothing" compare to what they have given to Israel, read my other thread on “Usrael Alliance” and find out as an American how much of the Tax dollars, so far has gone from West to Israel ... over $500 billion, not counting the NET ECONOMIC LOSS of this money not spend in WEST.
You would have to take two zeros off that number (5b) and then that would include 2b of loan guarantees (which only cost us something if they default). We could save another 2b if the states around Israel wouldn't continue to threaten it's existence. I'm quite sure that 2b in military funding comes back to us in contracts but hey, it costs me something.

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ggaleazz said:
If jews run the entertainment industry (and by extension use it to push their agenda/religion). Why do the vast majority of shows/movies have a christian/catholic bent (christmas, easter, etc.)? ....

Who Really Controls the MASS MEDIA in the West;

where a small minority - a mere fraction of the population, in fact much fewer than one per cent. And it is this minority which is able to determine which facts the people will be allowed to know about, which events will be reported to them, which points of view they will be able to examine and evaluate, which political parties it is good to vote for and which not, which politicians are decent, upright, honourable and capable citizens and which are disreputable, incompetent, "dangerous" and "extreme".

"Today the film makers are the people who control the most powerful medium in the world, and art that can create ideals, change language or topple governments."
John Baxter in the Daily Mail (28th December 1995)

This list is purely jewish "Kosher"
Sony Corporation;
Paul Burger is the Chairman and Chief Executive
Jonathan Sternberg, Gerhard Blum and Sara Silver, Senior Vice Presidents

RCA Records
Hugh Goldsmith, Managing Director
David Joseph, Head of Artistic Development
Nancy Farbman, International Director

Polygram global entertainment group
Alain Levy, The President and Chief Executive

EMI Music
Sir Graham Day and H. Einsmann, Senior Vice Presidents
Charles Diamont, Managing Director
Michelle Burger, Vice President
Jeremy Silver, Vice President of International Media Division

Associated Newspapers
Stewart Steven - real name Stefan Gustaf Cohen, Director of Associated Newspapers Holdings Ltd
Clive Wolman, founder and editor-in-chief of the weekly magazine

BBC
Alan Yentob, Director of BBC programmes
The most powerful man at the "British" Broadcasting Corporation
The immensely powerful independent TV bosses Michael Grade and Michael Green.

ABC, FOX, NBC, Columbia Pictures, Paramount, Newsweek, Washington Post . . .
RICHARD BERNSTEIN, Western Publishing. childrens books

STUART BLOOMBERG ABC Head of Entertainment Division.

PETER CHERNIN 20th Century Fox. dec. 1992 new CEO

MARTIN S. DAVIS Paramount Comm. CEO

BARRY DILLER 20th Century Fox. CEO

MICHAEL D. EISNER WALT DISNEY Co.

STEVEN FRIEDMAN NBC Executive Producer Nightly News. Hired may 1990 under G.E. (gentile) owned NBC.

LEONARD HARRY GOLDENSON ABC (Capital Cities ABC TV) (upto 1985. Thomas Murphy now CEO but with same Jewish management)

KATHERINE MEYER GRAHAM Newsweek, Washington Post. Daughter of Eugene Meyer.

PETER GUBER Columbia Pictures. 1989. Bought by SONY, Guber replaced Kaufman as CEO.

PETER KALIKOW New York Post. Real estate devloper.

PETER R. KANN Dow Jones, Wall St Journal, Barrons

VICTOR A. KAUFMAN Columbia Pictures. CEO

CHARLES KOPPELMAN EMI Records CEO

GARY HERSH Capitol Records CEO

GERALD LEVIN, TIME/WARNER Comm. CO-CEO
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ROBERT MAXWELL aka Ludvik Hoch. Daily News.

RONNESSEN, MBS. Mutual Broadcasting SYS.

SAMUEL NEWHOUSE russian jew Random House, Advanced Publications, Newhouse Broadcasting, (CTV), New Yorker Vogue, Mademoiselle, Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentleman's Quarterly, Self, House & Garden. Newspapers & mags.

MICHAEL OVITZ Media magnate.

WILLIAM S. PALEY russian jew CBS CEO & founder of CBS. 1927. 1983 Partially retired.

SUMNER M. REDSTONE, Viacom MTV Nickelodeon QVC. CEO.

STEVEN J. ROSS, TIME/WARNER Comm. CEO.

JEFF SAGANSKY russian jew CBS Head Entertainment Division.

DAVID SARNOFF russian jew RCA NBC head entertainment div.

ROBERT SARNOFF russian jew RCA NBC CEO (son of D. Sarnoff). RCA and NBC were bought by G.E. in 1986 but Jewish management still exists.

MICHAEL P. SCHULHOF, SONY. Vice chairman.

RICHARD SNYDER, Simon & Schuster.

LEONARD STERN, VILLAGE VOICE. HARTZ pets supply.

ROBERT STRAUSS Large investor, President Bush's Moscow ambassador.

ARTHUR OCHS SULZBERGER, New York Times, family circle. McCall's, M. Frankel, J. Lelyveld, J. Rosenthal - all Jews.

BRANDON TARTIKOFF russian jew Paramount pictures. Chairman.

LAWRENCE A. TISCH russian jew CBS CEO TV, theaters, hotels, insurance. (Before him was 1928 William S. Paley son of russian jews. Retired 1983.)

LEW WASSERMAN, MCA Inc. CEO. 1991. Bought by SONY. but Wasserman still is CEO.

MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, US News and World Report, DAILY NEWS. New ceo
 

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Quick, someone list all the Catholics, Protestants and Muslims that work in the Entertainment industry.

What, no blatant racist source for this, that's weird.

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red said:
its pathetic.
I agree, is there some reason some people are labeled "jew" and some "russian jew"?

This is a racist thread and it should be closed.

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onthebottom said:
I agree, is there some reason some people are labeled "jew" and some "russian jew"?

This is a racist thread and it should be closed.

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It means they were not born in USA! A Fact not a Faction.

I would have used the word Zionist but not all of them are Zionist, but they are all Jew of Jewish background who are the CEO's, Major Shareholders, or owners of the Media in reference to the Subject of “who controls the Mass Media!"
 

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cyrus said:
They are all Decent, intelligent people!
Not to mention some of Cyrus's best friends.
 

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onthebottom said:
You would have to take two zeros off that number (5b) and then that would include 2b of loan guarantees (which only cost us something if they default). We could save another 2b if the states around Israel wouldn't continue to threaten it's existence. I'm quite sure that 2b in military funding comes back to us in contracts but hey, it costs me something.

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Yeah right . . .

See below,
This is just loans that eventually were forgiven, not including what they call “Additional aid” they slip into the different budgets and the material aids and subsidies as well as military aids

THE STRATEGIC FUNCTIONS OF U.S. AID TO ISRAEL
http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm
By Stephen Zunes

Dr. Zunes is an assistant professor in the Department of Politics at the University of San Francisco


U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact

Summary
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Now we are in year 2006 . . . so don't forget the x sign, the Multiplier factor

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630 Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240
 
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