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GOP prized informant against Hunter Biden now charged with lying under oath

bver_hunter

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Joe Biden has ZERO scandals, and it makes Trumpists FURIOUS

But but, but the biggest Trumpista that is really pissed off, is this individual who over the years kept spouting "The Facts" that the "Radical Left Media" will not Tell You:

STUDY: How Sean Hannity helped build the GOP’s collapsing Hunter Biden impeachment case
Impeachment Chairs Comer, Jordan, and Smith made 86 appearances on Hannity’s Fox show to talk Hunter in 2023

 
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Valcazar

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Lose 13% of dem votes and you lose the election.

CANDIDATESPARTYVOTESPCT.
Joe Biden *DEM384,76580.8%
UNCOMMITTEDDEM63,35713.3%
Marianne WilliamsonDEM14,2673.0%
Dean PhillipsDEM13,5602.8%
TOTAL
As I mentioned before, luckily for Biden then, this doesn't show he is losing 13% of Dem votes.
 

toguy5252

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No scandals?

WTF... didn't you hear about President Biden answering a reporters question on a Gaza ceasefire while eating ice cream with Seth Meyers? ICE CREAM!!!

Well they have found their high crime and misdemeanor. Damn, and I thought he was clean.
 

Frankfooter

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As I mentioned before, luckily for Biden then, this doesn't show he is losing 13% of Dem votes.
You keep arguing like you don't think being known as Genocide Joe is bad for his reelection.
An air force soldier just self immolated in front of the Israeli Embassy, saying he wouldn't take part in genocide.
Today Israel killed 104 starving people lining up for food.

Why do you refuse to acknowledge that Biden's support of genocide could kill his reelection?

A majority of Democrats prefer a presidential candidate who does not back U.S. military aid for Israel, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll that showed Democratic President Joe Biden tied with Donald Trump ahead of the November presidential election.
The three-day poll, which closed on Wednesday, showed 56% of respondents who identified themselves as Democrats said they were less likely to support a candidate who backs military assistance for Israel, compared to 40% who said they would be more likely to support such a candidate.
 

Frankfooter

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Stop with the bullshit and nonsense. You know as well as most Muslims do that Trump would be sending in drones to finish off the Palestinians instead of Joe trying to calm Nete down.
Never Again.

For a lot of people that means you can't support genocide.
How many people think they've lived through 4 years of rump already and think they can do it again rather than vote to actively support genocide?
How many people think voted for a wanna dictator who might support genocide is better than voting for someone actively aiding genocide?

That's the question nobody has a clear answer on.
But the protests and questions need to be taken seriously.

 

WyattEarp

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Whatever anyone says about the GOP, there's always a Dem who "maybe-maybe-maybe" did the same thing, right?
Yes, it's called the American political system. If you come here to tell everyone that you have the problem figured out and it's the Republicans, go at it. That's your prerogative just as it's everyone else's prerogative to speak.

Trump wasn't even a politician before 2016 and had good relations with NY Dems. So all the intense handwringing over Trump's activities is a blip in time. Is that wrong?

By the way, you are the second most prolific poster on TERB after you know who. You and him are "Everything, Everywhere All at Once". So whachya complaining about?
 

toguy5252

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Yes, it's called the American political system. If you come here to tell everyone that you have the problem figured out and it's the Republicans, go at it. That's your prerogative just as it's everyone else's prerogative to speak.

Trump wasn't even a politician before 2016 and had good relations with NY Dems. So all the intense handwringing over Trump's activities is a blip in time. Is that wrong?

By the way, you are the second most prolific poster on TERB after you know who. You and him are "Everything, Everywhere All at Once". So whachya complaining about?
you are living in the past and confusing what now passes for the gop with the Grand Old Party. The gop at one time had a philosophical platform which whether you agreed with it or not was thoughtful and consistent. Those days are long gone . Now the policy is whatever the stable genius says it is and has no relation to traditional gop policies or conservatism. It is just get and keep power by any means, legal or otherwise and use it to keep their fearless leader out of jail.
 

WyattEarp

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One watches it to have one's world view validated, not to be informed.
I don't know where Fox News' audience numbers are currently. It's a rather small segment of the population. You can usually figure out who amongst your friends and family watches Fox. They usually overreact to the things they hear on Fox. It's almost funny when you break down the misinformation for them.

You see the same thing here on both sides of an argument. How many times have we seen people here overreact to a headline or commentary?

You present a fairly straightforward counterargument or clarification of facts. You NEVER get a "hey, that's a good point". Instead, you are more likely to get someone dogging you around TERB trying to get back at you. (The analogy would be stealing the basketball from a kid and then having them frantically chasing you around the court hacking at you trying to get the ball back.)
 

WyattEarp

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you are living in the past and confusing what now passes for the gop with the Grand Old Party. The gop at one time had a philosophical platform which whether you agreed with it or not was thoughtful and consistent. Those days are long gone . Now the policy is whatever the stable genius says it is and has no relation to traditional gop policies or conservatism. It is just get and keep power by any means, legal or otherwise and use it to keep their fearless leader out of jail.
toguy, I don't think you are the most reliable poster regarding politics. You kind of pulled a "trojan horse" effort by trying to claim you had an affinity for Jack Kemp and his political philosophy. For that to have some credence, you have to understand Kemp's political philosophies and advocate them periodically. (This isn't the first time that you have dismissed the mention of the recent past as if all of today's politics just emerged from the womb.)

I assure you the Biden Administration has very active regulatory muscle. Under different efforts, the Administration is also directing an enormous amount of investment in the economy.

I remember when the tactic was to label Reagan an extremist. It's a part of politics in every Western Democracy.

I'm guessing hard political trade-offs are in store for Canada in the next five years. The Liberals will try to tack to the center if politically possible. All the while, the Liberals will label the Conservatives as extreme, backward.......perhaps even racist.
 

toguy5252

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toguy, I don't think you are the most reliable poster regarding politics. You kind of pulled a "trojan horse" effort by trying to claim you had an affinity for Jack Kemp and his political philosophy. For that to have some credence, you have to understand Kemp's political philosophies and advocate them periodically. (This isn't the first time that you have dismissed the mention of the recent past as if all of today's politics just emerged from the womb.)

I assure you the Biden Administration has very active regulatory muscle. Under different efforts, the Administration is also directing an enormous amount of investment in the economy.

I remember when the tactic was to label Reagan an extremist. It's a part of politics in every Western Democracy.

I'm guessing hard political trade-offs are in store for Canada in the next five years. The Liberals will try to tack to the center if politically possible. All the while, the Liberals will label the Conservatives as extreme, backward.......perhaps even racist.
I do not actually recall saying that but at the time I was . I don’t know how old you are but In Canada I was a supporter of Claude Wagner and then John turner. I know different parties. I have been a long time follower of George Will and previously Charles kruuthammer and at on time I considered myself a conservative and a monetarist follower of Milton Friedman. Today I would be more Keynesian.

In any event I was not talking about tradeoffs which are a part of the process. The problem today in large part is the opposite. The Kai’s caucus takes their marching orders from the stable genius and do not compromise, hence the bipartisan immigration reform bill championed by real legislators went down in flames. Likewise bi partisan support for Ukraine and Israel.
 
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WyattEarp

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In any event I was not talking about tradeoffs which are a part of the process. The problem today in large part is the opposite. The Kai’s caucus takes their marching orders from the stable genius and do not compromise, hence the bipartisan immigration reform bill championed by real legislators went down in flames. Likewise bi partisan support for Ukraine and Israel.
There will likely be separate bills for the Ukraine and Israel. Both have unique issues. I don't think the U.S. wants the conflicts to go on for much longer. Of course, Israel is and will be in a constant struggle with Hamas.

The one thing you don't hear much about now is the bipartisan talks between Trump, Schumer and Pelosi five years ago. If you recall, Schumer and Pelosi walked out because they claimed they were offended by the way the President discussed the problem. Anyone who has had experience in major negotiations knows that you often do not like the person(s) across the table. The adversity can intensify. The reality is you don't have to like the people in the negotiations. It might make negotiations easier when you are all cordial, but that is not always the case.
 

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Yes, it's called the American political system. If you come here to tell everyone that you have the problem figured out and it's the Republicans, go at it. That's your prerogative just as it's everyone else's prerogative to speak.

Trump wasn't even a politician before 2016 and had good relations with NY Dems. So all the intense handwringing over Trump's activities is a blip in time. Is that wrong?

By the way, you are the second most prolific poster on TERB after you know who. You and him are "Everything, Everywhere All at Once". So whachya complaining about?
Trump still isnt anything even remotely comparable to a politician
 

toguy5252

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There will likely be separate bills for the Ukraine and Israel. Both have unique issues. I don't think the U.S. wants the conflicts to go on for much longer. Of course, Israel is and will be in a constant struggle with Hamas.

The one thing you don't hear much about now is the bipartisan talks between Trump, Schumer and Pelosi five years ago. If you recall, Schumer and Pelosi walked out because they claimed they were offended by the way the President discussed the problem. Anyone who has had experience in major negotiations knows that you often do not like the person(s) across the table. The adversity can intensify. The reality is you don't have to like the people in the negotiations. It might make negotiations easier when you are all cordial, but that is not always the case.
I have been involved in many very large and very complicated negotiations and I certainly agree that you need not like the person on the other side. But you need someone on the other side who understands the issues and is prepared to negotiate, neither of those charertristcs apply to the stable genius, as reported he treated every negotiation as a my y way or the highway and everything he may have given as an expression of his personal largesse.

Notwithstanding his professed bigly expertise as a dealmaker like everything else about him it is fictional. I am involved in the real estate industry including in NYC and although I have not dealt with him or his organization many people who I have dealt with had dealt with him. He was generally regarded as a clown who overpaid for everything and then defaulted and tried to renegotiate his loans.

I look at the real character and not the fictional one that his base and perhaps you have bought into.
 
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mandrill

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There will likely be separate bills for the Ukraine and Israel. Both have unique issues. I don't think the U.S. wants the conflicts to go on for much longer. Of course, Israel is and will be in a constant struggle with Hamas.

The one thing you don't hear much about now is the bipartisan talks between Trump, Schumer and Pelosi five years ago. If you recall, Schumer and Pelosi walked out because they claimed they were offended by the way the President discussed the problem. Anyone who has had experience in major negotiations knows that you often do not like the person(s) across the table. The adversity can intensify. The reality is you don't have to like the people in the negotiations. It might make negotiations easier when you are all cordial, but that is not always the case.
It might have helped if Trump was mentally competent, briefed on the issues and not a moron and a narcissist. Just sayin'.
 

mandrill

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Yes, it's called the American political system. If you come here to tell everyone that you have the problem figured out and it's the Republicans, go at it. That's your prerogative just as it's everyone else's prerogative to speak.

Trump wasn't even a politician before 2016 and had good relations with NY Dems. So all the intense handwringing over Trump's activities is a blip in time. Is that wrong?

By the way, you are the second most prolific poster on TERB after you know who. You and him are "Everything, Everywhere All at Once". So whachya complaining about?
Looks who's doing the ad hominems now, Earp.

There are always going to be corrupt people, Earp. And politics will always attract some of them.

But corrupt presidents are fewer by far. And corrupt presidents who are so dumb they get sued for fraud and judicially beaten up to the tune of almost a $1/2B are a total of 1.

When you get some REAL dirt on Biden, come back and tell us.
 

SchlongConery

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Trump still isnt anything even remotely comparable to a politician
I disagree vehemently with that statement.

He is the consummate politician. With emphasis on con. As in confidence man. Becoming President of the USA is no small feat in politics. So there is your prima facie evidence he has become the ultimate politician. And being able to convince Congress to break the United States promise to Ukraine, to the benefit of Russia, a country whose leader has declared his attack on Ukraine is his proxy war against the USA and western civillization? While he isn't even in office? Man... that takes some fucking unbelievable political skill.

In his self-aggrandizing PR stunt that went to far... he recognized a susceptible group of aggrieved people and using his knowledge of the vulnerable, developed them into perhaps the most politically active sect in US history. He is a legitimate genius when it comes to gaining peoples confidence and loyalty.

Is he a legislator or otherwise knowledgable to be in, or run government? Not in any way. Does he have any legislative or other actual policies or cohesive (even comprehensible?) plan to actually Make America Great Again? Not unless being a perpetually aggrieved, ketchup throwing, whining Karen who always wants to speak to the Manager is going to MAGA.
 
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WyattEarp

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Looks who's doing the ad hominems now, Earp.
It's not exactly an ad hominem when one uses a fact like posting volumes to make a point. Some here will certainly commend you for your tenacity.
 
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