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Geee.....I think I said this about a week ago. As long as you Maple Laffs fans keep watching and going to crap then that is what MSLE is going to keep giving you. Wake up Sheeple!

Wins, losses mean nothing to MLSE
And Peddie babysits the bottom line
Jan. 28, 2006. 09:16 AM
KEN CAMPBELL
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The choir is building, even if the song remains the same: when it comes to building winning sports teams, Richard Peddie couldn't find a skunk in a phone booth.

He should have nothing to do with choosing the people who choose the people who play the games. Because his judgment in this area, terrible to this point, as reaffirmed by the Rob Babcock bungle, is beyond ever trusting again.

But talk about building the brand of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, or about making his bosses happy — in this case, the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan — and Peddie is doing a tremendous job. Fire him? The higher-ups wish his picture was on the money he's making them.

Let us review. Twenty-five years ago, a man named Harold Ballard ran an aging arena and an institution of a hockey team and, for some reason, also bought a Canadian Football League team. The entire operation had a budget of $5 million; the Maple Leafs were a $4 million outfit and the Hamilton Tiger-Cats cost $1 million, front to back.

Things happened. Ballard died. The Blue Jays got very good and very popular and 15 years ago, the Leafs remained an institution, but played a clear second-fiddle as the Jays ruled the roost briefly. That's a fact. But things kept happening. Baseball quickly fell out of favour and the Maple Leafs, spurred by a generation of young fans with scant or zero personal recollection of the glories of 1967, became big. Bigger. Huge.

This entire Leaf Nation thing took on a life of its own in the past dozen or so years, even as ownership of the team passed through the Honest Grocer's hands. A basketball team arrived and was kind enough to build its own arena — without dunning the public, by the way — and with the building all but in place, the hockey proprietors took over the basketball team from feuding owners and here it suddenly all was — Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, operating out of the Air Canada Centre.

Arriving, too, was Peddie, whose previous lives included stops at Pillsbury and the SkyDome. Peddie quickly understood that the Maple Leaf logo had both magical and foolproof marketing powers and — this is critical — those powers did not diminish whether the team was good or bad. Not even a disgraceful pedophilia scandal had harmed it. Nor will any eight-game losing streaks.

Peddie figured everything out and acted while Larry Tanenbaum, chairman of the board, filled the cliché role as smiling owner who wished to hang around players. He went on vacation with Vince Carter and Tie Domi and was everyone's friend. (When the time came, he made sure Domi got his contract.)

In Larry's other life, he likes to pour concrete. He's a high-end Liberal bagman and strangely enough, government money keeps rolling toward his building companies.

It was Peddie, though, who moved the company forward on the logo's marketing power and look at MLSE now: it has condo towers and a hotel deal and restaurants. It has two television channels. It has a deal with an online poker company that looks here like the first step toward obtaining the inevitable downtown casino licence. It has a soccer stadium coming, coerced out of taxpayers, and a pro soccer team on the way. It swiped a city-owned arena at the CNE, giving it a home for its top minor league team, and inserted itself into control of a $45 million arena in Oshawa built, again, by the public. It's angling now to scoop up Union Station, which would give it almost all the property from Front St. to the Lake Shore and Bay almost to University Ave. They'll call it Fortress Maple Leaf.

While other sports teams tried to sell T-shirts and keychains, Peddie went bigger. He knew to use the logo to sell $800,000 condominiums. Sell souvenirs to kids, by all means, but also sell phony promises to governments.

Harold Ballard's little $5 million empire — yes, we called it an empire in those days — has been replaced by this ever-growing conglomerate that, at last year's callover, was valued at $1.1 billion and shows no signs of shrinking.

The basketball team may suck and the hockey team can equal its longest losing streak in 10 years tonight. In the big picture, it scarcely matters. (Remember, the hockey lockout eventually provided more revenue for MLSE in salary savings alone than three rounds of playoff gates would provide.)

The big wins for MLSE — the only ones that clearly matter — come on the balance sheet and have Peddie's fingerprints all over them. So, again, find somebody to run the sporting side, by all means. But fire him? The way MLSE does business, it would be crazy to.
 

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The only ones who don't get it are the Laffs fans.

Of course when your only source of news is AM 640 & The Sun I guess "thinking" is not required.

I have only been in the Saddledome, the Forum & Corel centre but when I 1st went to the ACC I could not believe my eyes. I was stuck in the "limited view" seats in the upper corner. The end box seats stick out and block your view of the ice from about the middle of the blue line to the face off circle...i.e. you do not see the net.

Only would Toronto fans pay for this type of abuse.
 

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I only saw the 3rd period but they sat on a 2-1 lead and allowed Montreal to come back with 2 quick goals. They lost it in OT and they should consider themselves lucky for getting a point out of this. The Canadiens have the 2nd worst offence in the eastern conference but you cannot sit on a 1 goal lead at the beginning of the 3rd period like they did. Even a 2 goal lead is not safe now.
 

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Harrison, Wozniewski, and Kronvall are definitely not ready for NHL hockey, that's for sure!
 

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21pro said:
Harrison, Wozniewski, and Kronvall are definitely not ready for NHL hockey, that's for sure!
..Neither are Berg,Coliaccovo, or Khavanov....and Klee's play this year is putting him close to the same boat..so the Leafs have 2 NHL calibre defensemen..Kaberle and Mc Cabe..both offensive minded, soft defensively defensmen...Really need a couple of bonafide heavy hitters back there...guys who clear the front of the net...and know how to be responsible defensively...
 

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yeah, but even Rob Blake isn't dishing out big hits this year... yet he is still playing outstanding hockey. it doesn't take being a 'bonafide heavy hitter' to be effective as a defender... hardly, it is actually alot less of a focus and alot less effective in todays game. powerforwards who hit are alot more effective.
 
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Tampa Bay 3 - Toronto 2 in a shootout...


Referees Marc Joannette and Justin StPierre tried but couldn't give this one away to the leafs. I couldn't believe the penalties that leaf players were able to get away with... literally took liberties on the lightning.


Leafs still failing to outshoot opponents... even struggling opponents at that... the lightning much like the leafs are in the slumps, even losing to washington in their last game.
 

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deke on Belfour in a SO and its a guaranteed goal.

I saw the SO tonight. I swear he has never come out of his net so much ever before. It leaves little options in the event of a deke. He used to stay in more and cover the lower net post to post. Maybe he feels like he lost a step in his legs so he makes up for it by playing out more, then gliding back in.
 

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Leafs ..

These guys dodged a bullet during their slump. No teams gained on them significantly in the standings, so now they are comfortably in 8th with a three point cushion.

However, this team is absolutely awful. I think they are going to suffer a beating at the hands of Ovechkin. Their defense has no response for a kid like that. However, McCabe and Co. clutching and grabbing could slow him down a bit.

Points are going to be tougher to come by for all teams going into the Olympic break and the stretch drive.

My 2 cents.
 

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I've said it before and it will say it again - the leafs will dig down deep and make the play-offs and will knock off the Sens as usual!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO LEAFS GO !!!!!

"even when times are tuff - have been and always will be a leafs fan"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Leafs vs. Sens in playoffs

I agree with ^

I think that the Sens will not pose a threat at all to the Leafs in the playoffs. I actually think the Leafs would win handily in 5 or less games.

The Leafs can rely on the fact that "clutch and grab" hockey will be back in the Spring. This will neutralize any scoring that the Senators have (Heatley, Spezza, Alfredsson, Fisher, et al.). Dominik Hasek will most likely feel the pressure and will succumb to a far greater goaltender in Ed Belfour. By this time the Leafs defence should be one of the best in the league after trade deadline improvements, therefore, rendering Wade Redden, Zdeno Chara, Chris Phillips, Anton Volchenkov and Andrej Meszaros more or less useless.

It's funny. If the Leafs actually meet the Sens in the playoffs this year, it could be the most lopsided Battle of Ontatio victory yet for the Maple Leafs.
 

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If you saw last night's game... the leafs were allowed alot of clutching and grabbing. disgusting hockey if you ask me... oh yeah, and the scoring was low also... boring, boring hockey.


speaking of playoffs, i realized only 53% of the league can make the first round. That seems like such a tough odd to make the playoffs. It used to be around 70% of the teams make it. In today's bigger league that would mean they could have it so 10 or 11 of each conference could make the 1st round. with 11 teams each, the top 2 teams could have a 1st round bye, or have inter conference play... i think both are a bad idea. but 10 teams from each conference would do well in my opinion.

just look at how strong the west is. perhaps Anaheim, Phoenix, Minnesota and San Jose should all be allowed in the playoffs, theoretically, they all have good records against the tops in the East, including, Carolina, Ottawa and Philly, not to mention all have good records against the leafs.
 

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Figure8 said:
I agree with ^

I think that the Sens will not pose a threat at all to the Leafs in the playoffs. I actually think the Leafs would win handily in 5 or less games.

The Leafs can rely on the fact that "clutch and grab" hockey will be back in the Spring. This will neutralize any scoring that the Senators have (Heatley, Spezza, Alfredsson, Fisher, et al.). Dominik Hasek will most likely feel the pressure and will succumb to a far greater goaltender in Ed Belfour. By this time the Leafs defence should be one of the best in the league after trade deadline improvements, therefore, rendering Wade Redden, Zdeno Chara, Chris Phillips, Anton Volchenkov and Andrej Meszaros more or less useless.

It's funny. If the Leafs actually meet the Sens in the playoffs this year, it could be the most lopsided Battle of Ontatio victory yet for the Maple Leafs.

Are you dreaming in your fantasy?

1) If by some miracle the Leafs do eliminate the Sens, it won't be in 5.

2) Ed Belfour far greater than Dominik Hasek!?!? How do you figure?

3) What cap room does the Leafs have to improve their D? What can they offer to other teams to improve their D?

4) Be careful not to eat your words later. While upsets are possible and do occur, there's a better chance that it will be a loopsided victory for the Sens.
 

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I actually think the Leafs would win handily in 5 or less games.
Maybe if Ottawa has Ray Emery in nets, he was brutal against Boston the other night. This year's version of the Leafs would have trouble beating an AHL team handily in 5 games.
 

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Maybe if Ottawa has Ray Emery in nets, he was brutal against Boston the other night. This year's version of the Leafs would have trouble beating an AHL team handily in 5 games.
Hasek is overdue for one of his injuries...

I would be suprised if he doesn't go down at least once this season or even for the playoffs.

Ottawa would be in big trouble then, no matter who they face.
 

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Ottawa is in big trouble right now. Haven't you noticed their latest stats. They've been losing to everyone but the Leafs and Canadiens... and both of these teams are hardly a credible win as they are both in slumps, too.
 

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Ottawa took it on the chin again..

...against the Devils ....Ottawa is looking pretty average since Christmas...althouhhg I'd love to have some of what Figure 8 is smoking...The Leafs, if they do make it to the playoffs, wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning one game against Ottawa, unless they pull off the trade of the decade to shore up the team (Like Aki Berg and Wade Belak for, say Todd Bertuzzi???..lmao) ...and take note, I'm a die hard Leaf fan,but when your team sucks donkey dick, you gotta just face it...

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