Well... it's been removed by YouTube.
Censorship reigns supreme.
You'd think the video was advocating hate, or showing gruesome imagery, or something along those lines. Merely having an opinion is too dangerous.
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Well... it's been removed by YouTube.
Censorship reigns supreme.
You'd think the video was advocating hate, or showing gruesome imagery, or something along those lines. Merely having an opinion is too dangerous.
The reason our healthcare system has not been overburdened is because of proper measures our governments took by shutting down non essential businesses as well as self isolation rules. Otherwise it would be far worse.
I listen to the news and not a single one of them has mentioned anything about hospitals overflowing with patients nor presented information to make it seem such. It is your own perception.
Exactly and yes hospitals are quiet, especially in Emerg as most now fear to go in and do not go because their tummy hurts.
Just look over to Italy and see what happens when a country doesn't shut things down in time.
If you need testing you go to a COVID clinic not a hospital.
The problem is people make shit up to fit their world. Stick to the facts and listen to the expert.
Try telling Doug Ford he should open Ontario up May 1.
canada-man
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You along with CM should run the country with your intellects.
God almighty, this explains how a bozo like Trump can get elected.
If the infection and death rates were consistent worldwide, the measure of failure will be how many people died or suffered permanent damage from lack of medical care. If Sweden's health care system is overwhelmed then it is likely that some of the dead could have been saved (and the disparity and cost of medical care in the US will make it a failure - no matter who is in charge).
I also find it funny to see so many devout right wingers suddenly wanting to emulate one of the most socialist countries.
Last year the flu season was over by now. Covid is still going strong.
In Canada, the flu kills between 500 and 1500 each year. So far 2100 deaths from covid despite all the measures in place.
COVID-19 multiple times worse than the flu. The flu doesn't threaten to, or actually, overwhelm hospitals.
Assuming the virus isn't too mutagenic.
Are you really suggesting we just go to a survival of the fittest model?
Sounds like a typical libertarian theory - until it impacts someone you know.
canada-man
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https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2
Who knows what percentages of populations have immunity until they are tested. Testing a large percentage may takes months or years.
An oft repeated & widely held reason why economies were not reopened was so as not to overwhelm hospitals, resulting in many more people dying & dying needlessly. That's the reason why, almost everywhere, plans are being made to open slowly & carefully.
So the idea is to build up herd immunity very slowly.
"Do a "snap opening" of small business and see if the former clientele rush in ! It wont happen, people are social distanced conditioned, fearful and mistrusting of the government, social media and each other right now. The bodies are still going to the morgue and will be for a while yet. Open up sports events, sit ten seats apart, the athletes, some wearing masks under their football helmets etc. .....does it make sense.? Go to the restaurant or bar and have your waiter wearing a mask ? The outfielders in baseball are social distanced but what about the umpire, back catcher and batter wearing masks. It will take a lot of time to change the way things are, to get consumer confidence back to get the public to trust the government(s) again. I guess the manufacturing sector could start up again, it would provide jobs but consumer spending and tourism is halted for now."
So about 50% of Americans, eh. Don't forget smokers, heavy drinkers, illicit drug users, etc.
Your crystal ball of alternate futures told you that? Italy has already been overwhelmed in its hospitals.
You do know plans are being made to start reopening? Manitoba just announced early May as their date.
Sorry, but these kinds of remarks are better left out.
"Do a "snap opening" of small business and see if the former clientele rush in ! It wont happen, people are social distanced conditioned, fearful and mistrusting of the government, social media and each other right now. The bodies are still going to the morgue and will be for a while yet. Open up sports events, sit ten seats apart, the athletes, some wearing masks under their football helmets etc. .....does it make sense.? Go to the restaurant or bar and have your waiter wearing a mask ? The outfielders in baseball are social distanced but what about the umpire, back catcher and batter wearing masks. It will take a lot of time to change the way things are, to get consumer confidence back to get the public to trust the government(s) again. I guess the manufacturing sector could start up again, it would provide jobs but consumer spending and tourism is halted for now."
Who knows? The second wave of this virus could be more deadly by far than the first, as it was with the Spanish Flu.
As for the history books, they should note the much larger percentage that may have died without shutdown measures.
And re the economy, no one has a crystal ball that can see into the future.
i hear that road fatalities are also down, as well as car accident injuries such as children being mangled.
Won't happen & no one wants that. Though something should be done to reduce road fatalities, flu deaths, etc.
No doubt after this crisis is over many will choose to work from home, instead, abstain from travel plans, including going to bars, restaurants, theaters, ball games, etc.
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