Eventually, yes. But no dates to reopen anything have been laid out. Lets see what Ford unveils next week. Think he will allow golf and garden centres to reopen but not much more. Maybe patio bars since UV light and heat kill the virus LOL Wonder if high blood alcohol levels kills the virus, way safer than bleach as suggested by Thumper.
End the Lockdown
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How can you build herd immunity if vaccine would not work? In essence it’s the same idea is it not? The only way for the virus to end would be on its own accord like SARS did for the most part.
SARS probably burnt out from the summer temps, high humidity and strong UV exposure
SARS probably burnt out from the summer temps, high humidity and strong UV exposure
This is a new virus. They are likely saying they don't have enough evidence yet to definitively state that antibodies combat the virus. Science generally doesn't deal with perhapses and maybes, only peer reviewed studies that seem to indicate something is more of a proven truth.
Love reading about what all these people are saying about things should be opened up now . All of the great knowledge that they have about science and medicine . They seem to know more than the medical doctors and the scientists . What are they doing on this board . Hasn't the government called you yet for your advice .
You all must be very smart since you are scientists and medical doctors that have graduated from Trump University . All of this talk about herd immunity . You would think that our doctors and scientists would know about this . Is that what you all have read on the web .
I beg you to call Trudeau and Ford and tell them all that you know . This way we can get back to normal sooner than later .
Didn't know that we had that many specialists on viruses on Terb .
Do the country a big favor and contact the Feds . I'm sure that they will be quite happy to hear your advice .
Don't waste your time in telling us that we should open up . We can't do anything about it . Tell the people that can .
Maybe start a protests like they have in the States . Drive up and down the road waving Canadian flags . Marching down Young Street . I'm sure that you will get a lot of attention from the media or you all can stand together and hold hands and show the world how smart you all are .
You all must be very smart since you are scientists and medical doctors that have graduated from Trump University . All of this talk about herd immunity . You would think that our doctors and scientists would know about this . Is that what you all have read on the web .
I beg you to call Trudeau and Ford and tell them all that you know . This way we can get back to normal sooner than later .
Didn't know that we had that many specialists on viruses on Terb .
Do the country a big favor and contact the Feds . I'm sure that they will be quite happy to hear your advice .
Don't waste your time in telling us that we should open up . We can't do anything about it . Tell the people that can .
Maybe start a protests like they have in the States . Drive up and down the road waving Canadian flags . Marching down Young Street . I'm sure that you will get a lot of attention from the media or you all can stand together and hold hands and show the world how smart you all are .
Either way, it should run its course. Humans have been around for tens of thousands of years... our proto-human ancestors for several million. We've been through much worse viruses and survive... this virus is obviously peanuts with a very low mortality rate such that a vaccine isn't even required and letting it do what it's going to do is the simplest and most cost effective way to deal with it.
We have and they are. You don't hear about 18 month closures anymore. You hear about re-openings in weeks or months. Closures for longer periods has become untenable.
Doesn't really follow. Herd immunity is also based on antibodies/resistance to the virus. If you get no immunity at all from being exposed, then there will never be herd immunity by "building" since people who are infected don't stop being susceptible.
But you need to remember that the immune system is not completely based on antibodies (although they are very important). You can get vaccines that provide some resistance or immunity that work through other parts of the immune system. It tends not to last long, though. Even antibody-based ones can fade fairly quickly.
In the end, herd immunity happens when we get R < 1. That can be achieved through a mix of things (social distancing, isolation, quarantine, vaccines, natural immunity, etc.)
Unfortunately the people who are irrational, loud and ignorant with no knowledge of the current events still don't understand
- Iceland has a population the same as Markham Ontario
- Sweden's healthcare system has not been overburdened yet, their numbers for a country of 10 Mln population is far worse than Canada. A person in Sweden is 4X more likely to die from the Coronavirus today than a person in Canada, They are close to overburdening their healthcare system and their Prime Minister is fully aware of it, knowing that at some point he might have to enforce strict isolation measures on the people.
- Japan saw a drastic increase in the number of confirmed cases and very quickly and rightly instituted a state of emergency at the beginning of this month for at least 30 days
You are totally wrong. Antibiotics and vaccines are totally different.
A vaccine helps the body to develop antibodies in the immune system so that the host (human) does not develop the infection.
Antibiotics work directly on the infecting organism once the host is already infected. It has nothing to do with the immune system/antibodies. As well, antibiotics are usually much more effective on bacteria than viruses. You seem to be falsely making a connection between antibodies and antibiotics. You are evidently confused by the nomenclature.
Thanks for putting it out there, but you should whip it back in. Will wait for your next attempt to justify mass levels of infections and deaths.
LMAO, if they actually were doctors and scientists they would be essential workers earning good money right now and wouldn't be crying the blues here on Terb.
I'm sure Teejay is among those in that group. I'm with Ford on this, you guys are a bunch of yahoos.
if you want to live under house arrest living in fear of a virus that's your business
But if you want to violate provincial instructions and endanger everyone around you, that is EVERYONE'S business.
And look those protesters are wearing masks. I thought they didn't think the virus was real. It's a hoax. Isn't it?
they are not law yesterday a quebec court rued that they regulations are VOLUNTARY and it is illegal for by law officers to issue tickets. take it up with them and hearings on the lockdown regulations will continue
Good on Ford for calling them yahoo's but he should have called in the swat team with instructions to use high-pressure hoses and lysol on all of them for public safety.
Sorry dude, I live in Ontario.
And this protest was in Ontario.
And last time I checked, based on Quebec's numbers... whatever Quebec is doing, the rest of the Canada SHOULD NOT DO.
Thanks for trying though.
