He's all mouth! At least Boris had the balls to shake hands with COVID patients. The other clown Alex Jones shakes hands at the Texas rally. CM is all mouth. I bet he wears gloves, mask and goggles to go shopping.
End the Lockdown
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Make up your mind.
No shutdown = the Sweden model
Of course advancements are happening all of the time but the fundamental basic strategy is, shutdown or no shutdown. (running economy or collapsing economy)
By the time the next wave hits, there will be what is essentially an enhanced Sweden model, or we shut down again.
There is no way he leaves his basement cave. It's all Amazon and Skip The Dishes.
Since you didn't read the full quote here it is again. I highlighted the important parts for you to read and understand. Here is to hoping you get it.
Not shutting down the economy is a part of what Sweden is doing, but Sweden has not aken the proactive measures of extensive tracing nor extensive health measures. Sweden has done the exact opposite of these two measures. So countries can take the mesure of not shutting down businesses meanwhile having extensive tracing and health measures and it can and probably will be successful but Sweden's model is not that. Although the right wing videos you'll quote will not have that information.
I am glad you finally realized although after quiet a few posts that the Swedish model is not a model that will be successful and a model that needs to be enhanced to possibly have any sort of chance in battling the Coronavirus.
I said that advancements are happening all of the time so off course they will be implemented.
More testing, anti-body testing, quarantine enforcement, contact tracing etc. are all enhancements that should be used. (Unfortunately, Canada is severely lacking and lagging in many of these regards)
When I say "The Sweden model", it simply refers to the paramount issue, running economy or collapsing economy.
150+ countries chose one way and Sweden chose the other way, hence the name.
Of course it doesn`t mean do the exact same thing forever and ignore all of the advancements of science and experiences.
This is a ludicrous assumption.
You are so fixated on trashing Sweden that you are blind to this basic strategy.
It seems like you want them to fail so that you can come on TERB and gloat.
You are one sad pathetic puppy.
Have a nice life.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2
If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2
Because the Liberals are feeding them thousands in CERB benefits
Free money = no need to work
Just keep crying poor and let the middle class get the anal tax shaft unlubed
I literally feel sick when I see the english language take such abuse.
AG Barr Says the DOJ May Take Legal Action against States if Lockdowns Are Deemed Excessive
By Zachary Evans
April 21, 2020 2:16 PM
“These are very, very burdensome impingements on liberty, and we adopted them, we have to remember, for the limited purpose of slowing down the spread, that is bending the curve,” Barr went on. “We didn’t adopt them as the comprehensive way of dealing with this disease….You can’t just keep on feeding the patient chemotherapy and say well, we’re killing the cancer, because we were getting to the point where we’re killing the patient.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/news...nst-states-if-lockdowns-are-deemed-excessive/
By Zachary Evans
April 21, 2020 2:16 PM
“These are very, very burdensome impingements on liberty, and we adopted them, we have to remember, for the limited purpose of slowing down the spread, that is bending the curve,” Barr went on. “We didn’t adopt them as the comprehensive way of dealing with this disease….You can’t just keep on feeding the patient chemotherapy and say well, we’re killing the cancer, because we were getting to the point where we’re killing the patient.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/news...nst-states-if-lockdowns-are-deemed-excessive/
According to TERB this position makes him an extremist right-wing covid conspiracist.
Herd immunity is being built up by the people getting infected & recovering, both in isolation with their families & those still working. As I said:
Without the economic shutdown there would have been many more deaths. Why? Because many hospitals would have been overwhelmed & they wouldn't have been able to handle all the non COVID-19 emergency cases in addition to all the COVID-19 emergency cases.
Without the shutdown many more would have become sick at the same time. That would have led to many businesses shutting down anyway. And many of their customers would have stayed at home, anyway, leading to even more business closures.
As things are going, there is much "herd immunity" already being built up. As many economies are now beginning to gradually open, or about to do so within the next few weeks, the "herd immunity" will slowly & properly be built up even more, so that hospitals & such are not overwhelmed.
How can herd immunity be established when just a tiny percentage of the population has the virus? Immunity is created through exposure
The economies of other countries are not being reopened because their population has immunity. They are reopening because they know the death rate is low and there is no reason to continue the destruction of their economy. Dollars outweigh everything
Well said Khufu, if you take just the nursing home deaths out of the equation your looking at very small numbers. Who knows by next year this time it could be less than the common flu (approximately 3500 for 2018). I can tell you one thing when there reading history books a hundred years from now nobody will shocked by the small percentage of deaths but the trillions lost in the economy & the years it took to recover will have most people saying wtf were they thinking...
In this exclusive interview, an Ontario nurse speaks with Rebel News about what hospitals are really like during the coronavirus lockdown, and offers a front line medical perspective on illness, comorbidities, the seasonal flu and death.
That's because hospitals have shut down a lot of non-essential services to prepare for a possible flood of covid cases.
That, and it is much less likely that you are going to suffer some sort of acute injury if you aren't allowed out of your house.
The healthcare system would have been overburdened if isolation measures weren't taken, and there would have been significantly more deaths with a death rate significantly higher than what we are seeing. No rational and informed human can deny that.
There is justification for having non essential businesses closed. Until we have strict tracing, strict healthcare measures in place we should not open non essential businesses. Otherwise there will be a larger spread of the virus then we have seen.
