Doug Ford is screwing up Ontario

Skoob

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What numbers have you used that reflect the actual performance of the economy. With inflation dropping and now this IMF forecast report:

Canada set to be fastest growing economy in G7 in 2025, IMF forecasts
Latest outlook puts this country ahead of United States and United Kingdom


What more numbers do I have to use?
All of that is speculation not fact.
If using unproven numbers is your thing, I would recommend using people instead of numbers like Trudeau does.
 

Frankfooter

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I stick to what I said and supported why I said it.
You have done nothing other than armchair quarterback with zero factual info.
Move on.
This was a great move and you know it.
You should be blaming the previous government for such stupid contracts.
Every time DoFo wastes public money, like the $1 billion to put beer in corner stores, you cheer it on.
Then you complain that liberals spend too much.

When its posted how DoFo is selling off public assets to insiders you cheer it on with the weakest reasons.
Why do you like getting reamed up the arse with no lube by DoFo so much?

Today's scandal is DoFo making secret deals to keep natural gas prices high in Ontario.
 
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Frankfooter

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All of that is speculation not fact.
If using unproven numbers is your thing, I would recommend using people instead of numbers like Trudeau does.
Speculation is claiming a $700 million savings from imagined future costs.
 

Skoob

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Every time DoFo wastes public money, like the $1 billion to put beer in corner stores, you cheer it on.
Then you complain that liberals spend too much.

When its posted how DoFo is selling off public assets to insiders you cheer it on with the weakest reasons.
Why do you like getting reamed up the arse with no lube by DoFo so much?

Today's scandal is DoFo making secret deals to keep natural gas prices high in Ontario.
Investment is different than wasting money like the Liberals did.
Saving money long term is a better strategy than printing money like the Liberals have done.
Reversing decisions is what governments are supposed to do if it was not the best decision for the time. (Just like you correct your mistakes when someone points them out to you)
Crying about the housing crisis then preventing the government from actually doing things to help the crisis in spite, is what you do.

Now why don't you go grab yourself a refreshing cocktail at your local convenience store and quit being so cranky.
 

Skoob

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Speculation is claiming a $700 million savings from imagined future costs.
Based on the contracts (ie real documents) and math, it's not speculation.

but tell me again how you don't support math in making predictions for things like, oh how about climate?

Or are you just tripping over your ol' hypocrisy again?
 

Frankfooter

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Based on the contracts (ie real documents) and math, it's not speculation.

but tell me again how you don't support math in making predictions for things like, oh how about climate?

Or are you just tripping over your ol' hypocrisy again?
Show us the details.
Show us in the Ontario budget where there is evidence that money was saved.

You're not lying about this are you?
You have evidence to back up your claim?
 

Frankfooter

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Investment is different than wasting money like the Liberals did.
Saving money long term is a better strategy than printing money like the Liberals have done.
Reversing decisions is what governments are supposed to do if it was not the best decision for the time. (Just like you correct your mistakes when someone points them out to you)
Crying about the housing crisis then preventing the government from actually doing things to help the crisis in spite, is what you do.

Now why don't you go grab yourself a refreshing cocktail at your local convenience store and quit being so cranky.
None of that is relevant to DoFo wasting $1 billion on beer in stores, cancelling contracts he is now redoing, privatizing health care that makes services more expensive and less available, giving away Ontario assets and their profit to donors or anything else we've discussed here.

That's just you rambling aimlessly.
 

bver_hunter

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Like I said...do a search to get a broader opinion and then come back and show us how many put Wynne as the worst compared to anyone else.
Why should I have to do a Search when I stated the facts as to why DOFO is proving to be even worse in many aspects than Wynn. Tell us what she did that makes her worse than him?
 
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bver_hunter

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All of that is speculation not fact.
If using unproven numbers is your thing, I would recommend using people instead of numbers like Trudeau does.
When Canada's inflation is now one of the lowest among the G7 Nations, and the Stock markets have rebounded I will take the IMF Forecasts over your sources.
Once again you are just posting your own opinions and nothing else!!
 
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Skoob

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Show us the details.
Show us in the Ontario budget where there is evidence that money was saved.

You're not lying about this are you?
You have evidence to back up your claim?
Every publication and quote from the province indicates this as such.

Not enough for you? Then file a FOI request and get a copy of the budget. Stop assigning other people homework Mr. Lazy Pants.
 

Skoob

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None of that is relevant to DoFo wasting $1 billion on beer in stores, cancelling contracts he is now redoing, privatizing health care that makes services more expensive and less available, giving away Ontario assets and their profit to donors or anything else we've discussed here.

That's just you rambling aimlessly.
You can keep spreading misinformation if that's the only thing you have left.
I've proven enough times why you can't be trusted. Everyone knows that.
But go ahead if it makes you happy.
 

Skoob

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Why should I have to do a Search when I stated the facts as to why DOFO is proving to be even worse in many aspects than Wynn. Tell us what she did that makes her worse than him?
Lol! I think you're scared of what you will find.
If you were confident in your belief that Wynne was not the worst, you would put in the effort.

Apparently, most people disagree with you.

That's what happens when you put your bias ahead of reality.
 

Skoob

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When Canada's inflation is now one of the lowest among the G7 Nations, and the Stock markets have rebounded I will take the IMF Forecasts over your sources.
Once again you are just posting your own opinions and nothing else!!
I think it's funny that when the economy is crap you twist yourself into a pretzel to give Trudeau a pass and saying it's not fully in his control.
But when it shows a period of improvement you rush to showcase it as his accomplishment?

Lol! That's funny indeed!
 

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Every publication and quote from the province indicates this as such.

Not enough for you? Then file a FOI request and get a copy of the budget. Stop assigning other people homework Mr. Lazy Pants.
So now a DoFo press release of a promise is all the evidence you need?
There is literally nothing DoFo could do that you wouldn't back, is there?

Highway 413 will be another disaster.
You'll cheer it on.

 

Frankfooter

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I think it's funny that when the economy is crap you twist yourself into a pretzel to give Trudeau a pass and saying it's not fully in his control.
But when it shows a period of improvement you rush to showcase it as his accomplishment?

Lol! That's funny indeed!
You still don't understand federal and provincial jurisdictions.
 

bver_hunter

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Lol! I think you're scared of what you will find.
If you were confident in your belief that Wynne was not the worst, you would put in the effort.

Apparently, most people disagree with you.

That's what happens when you put your bias ahead of reality.
I already stated the facts about the deficits, the state of the Healthcare, and Education under DOFO, but you keep on being in denial.
Typical Skoob!!
 
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Like I said...do a search to get a broader opinion and then come back and show us how many put Wynne as the worst compared to anyone else.
Just because Wynne was bad or even worst, doesn't mean that Ford is not bad for the province.
 

bver_hunter

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I think it's funny that when the economy is crap you twist yourself into a pretzel to give Trudeau a pass and saying it's not fully in his control.
But when it shows a period of improvement you rush to showcase it as his accomplishment?

Lol! That's funny indeed!
When the economies of practically every single country around the Globe has been hit by the Covid-19 Pandemic, supply chain disruptions, the war in Russia, Global inflation, Climate Change hits on crops etc., yet you have no problem with pushing all the blame on the Trudeau Government for Canada also being affected by it. But now when Canada has the one of the best inflation figures, as well as being forecasted to have the best growth of the G7 Nations, a triple A rating, once again you would give no credit to the present Federal Government, but just your hatred no matter what.......LOL!!
 

Skoob

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So now a DoFo press release of a promise is all the evidence you need?
There is literally nothing DoFo could do that you wouldn't back, is there?

Highway 413 will be another disaster.
You'll cheer it on.
I already shared 3rd party sources that outline how the contracts the Liberals signed would have translated into $million of unnecessary costs. Don't like what I provided? Like I said file a FOI request and get your own. Don't be lazy.

Highway 413 was an election promise and needed. All other parties said they would cancel it if elected. They weren't elected. The people have spoken in our democracy. Why do you hate democracy?

Even the feds support it.
 
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